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iichel wrote:amazing. simply amazing :shock:
Absolutely amazing Image
Mart!n-GTI-DK wrote:(Not sure if I have missed this earlier...) But cool you got the buttons in the steeringwheels to light up. :P
:wink:
By the way, HBA has been well recognized in the autoscan with VCDS, without faults. Next step it's the hardest part, finding in this new BCM the bit or bits which activate the system. After the tests ...
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ciclo wrote:
Mart!n-GTI-DK wrote:(Not sure if I have missed this earlier...) But cool you got the buttons in the steeringwheels to light up. :P
:wink:
By the way, HBA has been well recognized in the autoscan with VCDS, without faults. Next step it's the hardest part, finding in this new BCM the bit or bits which activate the system. After the tests ...
Have no idea what you just wrote... :lol:
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:lol: ...you know that you can have all the information you want or need by email.
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In this manual 5F Leon MY13 (pg 111) you can read its operation:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
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The brain ImageImage

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PR Codes :?: Patience, after testing...(logically) :wink:

Replacement: source Ross-Tech

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... ctory_Mode

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... Adaptation
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Lots of new pins... Where go the T14/14s? :twisted:
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iichel wrote:Lots of new pins...
...and with different functions to which they had previously...Image
iichel wrote:Where go the T14/14s? :twisted:
You need to know what function has this wire for your LED headlamps.

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Test 1

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The first tests for "light assist" have been a disastrous, the wiring is not connected to the right place, must also be modified the original wiring (slightly, under study).
In this way this process has become highly interesting for me but I fear that will be extended in the time.

:shock: :lol:
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I'm still working on it with the multimeterImage... I just need to find a (PIN) function in new BCM so that everything works as it should.
I think it is T73b/8 (_in), but I am no sure of this.

By the way,
with 7E0937090:
- Dash panel CAN bus also is used to other function.
with new Stalks:
- T41 wires must be modified slightly, also some wires on BCM, Fuse box, and light switch connector. (easy)

Sorry I can not provide more information for the moment.

Patience & Hope.
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ciclo wrote: The first tests for "light assist" have been a disastrous, the wiring is not connected to the right place, must also be modified the original wiring (slightly, under study).
In this way this process has become highly interesting for me but I fear that will be extended in the time.
:shock: :lol:
Looking in ETKA the BCM 7e0937090 is not for scirocco, but for Beetle, Transporter and Up!... and none of them supports pr-code 8G1 (high beam assist). Really looking forward to see your result :)
... and then installing it my 6R 2011 with seperate gateway (then I've just have to change all the wires to get rid of the old gateway :twisted: )

Can 7e0937090 be coded to [20-High Beam Assist] ?

A Jetta BCM uses the same connectors as the Polo BCM, but it supports Ligt Assist. 5K0 937 087 AK.. Could it be that BCM you are using?

Jetta AW1 (high version) has a gateway (7n0907530ap) - it might also support [20-High Beam Assist], but does it support CAN 1.6 for the steering assist in the Polo?

Wow - just ignore this post - it's just a lot of thoughts how to get Light Assist working.... :shock:
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diskoboy wrote:Can 7e0937090 be coded to [20-High Beam Assist] ?
http://www.caliboard.de/showthread.php? ... post136216

In this BCM 7E0937090 the CAN bus for camera is through the communication network of instrument cluster, so I think it's perfect to avoid problems with Transport Protocol.
At a first time I thought it would be as it always was, through powertrain CAN bus, but I was wrong. (Test 1, total failure)

The work with wires "for me only" is still hard because I'm not a soothsayer :lol:, I do not have diagrams ElsaWin for this. Anyway now it is in the right direction. :D
Next steps, make diagrams, installing wires correctly (OEM) on the car and do the Test 2, perhaps in a week or when I can to have time to do it.
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ciclo wrote:
diskoboy wrote:Can 7e0937090 be coded to [20-High Beam Assist] ?
http://www.caliboard.de/showthread.php? ... post136216

In this BCM 7E0937090 the CAN bus for camera is through the communication network of instrument cluster, so I think it's perfect to avoid problems with Transport Protocol.
At a first time I thought it would be as it always was, through powertrain CAN bus, but I was wrong. (Test 1, total failure)

The work with wires "for me only" is still hard because I'm not a soothsayer :lol:, I do not have diagrams ElsaWin for this. Anyway now it is in the right direction. :D
Next steps, make diagrams, installing wires correctly (OEM) on the car and do the Test 2, perhaps in a week or when I can to have time to do it.
Hmm... Looking in ETKA there is only 24 different models to choose between.
I'm sooo close to order a new one, but it would be much better to find a used one for half the price..
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I bought this new BCM: (under test)

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Autoscan. (without coding HBA and new Stalks-wiring)

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(without coding HBA and new Stalks-wiring)

Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2E 37 44 55 56 77

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZC)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 GD    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 2686  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001100D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F 004004
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6AD1DAE88D81284E2A7-803F

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM12TFS02103F" (VW25) 
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3216D00B5842814EA84D300401700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 8201124819F1500E027-80D7

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0711  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 387530A08BAD4ADE6C3-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 100150209
   Coding: 3CB02FBF08E1240093384ED16EEB8FD0FFC067FF600D30D1200000010000
   Shop #: WSC 18752 008 00032
   VCID: E8D520E01B8D9A5EBC3-80BD

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 050512 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 1F302D

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0103 
   Coding: A4FFFF

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Coding: 18BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Coding: 18BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47361212601014
   Coding: 308001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3E7926B8A18974EEA6F-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01JKVVP
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW24.rod
   VCID: 4A917A68ED41C84E0A7-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB405N1C4LI7929

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405B1D5MS8GS2

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405B17ABS901.

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405B181TUDPKC

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C    HW: 6R0 920 870 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00233 572 91226
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE35.rod
   VCID: 356B399494BFB7B6775-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 18752 008 00032
   VCID: E8D520E01B8D9A5EBC3-80BD

1 Fault Found:
03395 - Control Module for High Beam Assistant 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 1
                    
                    
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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: 8K0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 857 511 E    HW: 8J0 857 511 C
   Component: FLA           H03 0012  
   Revision: AA002001    
   Coding: 0201856B74745D545420363E01
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 346D049097C5AEBE40B-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod
   VCID: EAD15AE80D81A84EAA7-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662584630    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2A511AE84501E84EEA7-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3777339C86B345A6659-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V9  7918 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F670BFCEAE38D663D9-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0112000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt.rod
   VCID: F7F7739C4E3305A6259-80A2

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3777339C86B345A6659-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V9  7918 

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664158506
   Coding: 0501000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3B7F2FACB29B61C6811-806E

No fault code found.

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Everything work perfectly on my R-line with original factory xenon. Except HBA logically.

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After a hard work and an intense research, I have solved the puzzle of the wiring :D :
- scheme for HBA it's made.
- wiring in process...

Next weekend the Test 2. :wink:
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In the meanwhile:
7E0937090 vs 7H0937089F

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T73a/9
T73b/69
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highbeam assist does not have a seperate pin so that one can be ruled out.

so er need to find something that T6 has but Polo 6R does not have

maybe LED headlights (sorry to keep coming back to this)
maybe automatic cruise control sensor
maybe not :lol:
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Okay my dear friend iichel, I want tell you that the Byte for control units of LED headlights is Byte29, bit 5 & 6 (you can see when you activate this setting with VCDS... in faults :lol: )
The matter of "Light Assist" already solved, you're late for thisImage, ... my question about T73a/9, T73b/69 is a simple curiosity. :wink:
Maybe one of both pins is related with ...
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