HELP NEEDED!! Rear fog light retrofit Polo GTI 6R

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HELP NEEDED!! Rear fog light retrofit Polo GTI 6R

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Hello guys. My name is Roberto, this is my first post, I'm Mexican and own a Polo GTI 6r 2014 :D , I know in Europe most cars including Polo's have rear fog lights but mine has not come in that way :roll: .

I've read this post http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.p ... t-Retrofit

I was wondering if this retrofit could work also for my car, I really love the rear fog light, not only for euro style but for visibility and to annoy tail chasers 8)

please help, any advice will be appreciated :D

I will upload a picture of my Polo when I get home.

Thanks in advance

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Re: HELP NEEDED!! Rear fog light retrofit Polo GTI 6R

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Hola Roberto. Welcome!
Autoscan VCDS?... and some pics from your GTI (interior/exterior).

Depending on your BCM model there are two ways to connect the rear fog light.
It is also necessary an additional wire to connect to the instrument panel. (warning rear fog light)
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Gracias ciclo!

My GTI came with xenon and cornering lamps from factory

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BCM PN is 7H0937090B

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As I mentioned it doesn't have the wire in the cavity 9 of the light switch

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These are the wires on the driver's tail light (Left hand drive)

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now I know I need to add the trigger wire from the light switch to BCM but I'm not quite sure what is next? Do I need to relocate the wire I'm actually using for reverse light bulb on left tail light at BCM pin or I need to do another kind of wiring :?

Thanks in advance, by the way ciclo, your Polo is awesome! you have some skills boy! :D

best regards
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Re: HELP NEEDED!! Rear fog light retrofit Polo GTI 6R

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Robingti wrote:
These are the wires on the driver's tail light (Left hand drive)

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now I know I need to add the trigger wire from the light switch to BCM but I'm not quite sure what is next? Do I need to relocate the wire I'm actually using for reverse light bulb on left tail light at BCM pin or I need to do another kind of wiring :?
Nope! :lol: It's from the passenger side (right side). (LHD)

Do you have VCDS?

It is necessary to make several adaptations in the wiring. (very easy)

Also take pictures of your original tail lights and instrument cluster.... etc.
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Re: HELP NEEDED!! Rear fog light retrofit Polo GTI 6R

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Just purchased the VCDS 16.8 is that ok? :?

these are my taillights, they both have reverse lights function

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and this is my cluster

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I was able to download the wiring manual so I found out this diagram

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I'm I right about the connection I need to do or I'm messing stuff up?

Thanks
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Re: HELP NEEDED!! Rear fog light retrofit Polo GTI 6R

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Robingti wrote:
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I'm I right about the connection I need to do or I'm messing stuff up?
:roll: ... :lol:

:arrow: This is the right way

but I have the feeling that you are not going to change your original rear tail light...
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Thanks ciclo! I will work on this and let you know the results :D
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an intermediate solution would be a red LED light in the left rear light unit.
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iichel wrote:an intermediate solution would be a red LED light in the left rear light unit.
I think that is the easiest and cheapest solution. I'm going to do the wiring and replace the reverse light bulb.

Thanks iichel :mrgreen:
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iichel wrote:an intermediate solution would be a red LED light in the left rear light unit.
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ciclo wrote:
iichel wrote:an intermediate solution would be a red LED light in the left rear light unit.
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Sorry I missunderstood the proposal, I think i will not replace my taillight, I will only do the wiring and replace the white bulb by a red one. :oops:

By the way ciclo I got VCDS today, could you please teach me how to proceed with the changes? Thanks :D
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Robingti wrote:
ciclo wrote:
iichel wrote:an intermediate solution would be a red LED light in the left rear light unit.
Image...
Sorry I missunderstood the proposal, I think i will not replace my taillight, I will only do the wiring and replace the white bulb by a red one. :oops:

By the way ciclo I got VCDS today, could you please teach me how to proceed with the changes? Thanks :D
IMHO I think is not a good solution. Maybe I'm wrong.

Please show us the results. Thanks.

As for VCDS:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/main_screen.php

The first thing you have to do is an Autoscan from your 6R. (save it)
http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/autoscan.php

After: Any changes you make will be saved to the 'Logs', Scans and Debug folders.
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Done, I also activated the speed dependant wipers and switched the XDS to strong even though I haven't make a test yet.

what byte should I look for the tail lights configuration? I could not find it :(
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Post here an Autoscan.
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ciclo wrote:Post here an Autoscan.
There you go

Wednesday,11,January,2017,20:02:59:49450
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.0.3
Data version: 20160803 DS255
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Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 55 56 77 0B

VIN: WVWEP76R7EY153726 Mileage: 64670km-40184miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CTHE) Labels: 03C-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 03C 906 026 K HW: 03C 907 309 N
Component: 1.4l R4 TSI H02 6414
Revision: LNH02--- Serial number:
Coding: 00250012000400000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906026K 001006
ROD: GV_ECM14TSI011PQ25.rod
VCID: 285F92C653323102C8-807C

4 Faults Found:
5523 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

2795 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake)
P0011 00 [096] - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

4063 - Cylinder 4
P0304 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

4051 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [096] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 061 M HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 431 5110
Revision: 00043014 Serial number: CU501310258091
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 35614BB25F805CEA43-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AS HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0003
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 21DD6885432802C3841B166BC257404D0905
Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_VW25.rod
VCID: 0F2DD95AD69C463A29-805A

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 26111304650369
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7EF3949EE1365FB2D2-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 N HW: 6R0 820 045 N
Component: Man AC H02 0202
Revision: 0003SH02
VCID: 39794782B098B88AA7-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712
Revision: B9074001 Serial number: 0571 319132230
Coding: 35B029BF08E324009A2809916C2B9DD15A40472F60051040200000030000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 2D5163D274D0142A3B-8078

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AT HW: 6R0 959 801 AT Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8620
Serial number: KU0KU008111300012728
Coding: 0000A0

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BE HW: 6R0 959 802 BE Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8620
Serial number: KU0KU005111300011766
Coding: 1000A0

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 B HW: 6R0 959 591 B
Component: J245 PS72.023 H02 0007
Serial number: WOO2517342+
Coding: 081001

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 B HW: 5K0 959 542 B
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H30 0036
Serial number: 0121672
Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 M HW: 6R0 959 655 M
Component: VW10Airbag030 H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GZ001K0E3
Coding: 003330
Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4C970E56E70A3D220C-8018

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB400Q50LNG5HH.

Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB400O50LNG58T$

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB400U50PGE79U4

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB401250PGEDOFR

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 D HW: 6R0 920 870 D
Component: KOMBI H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140C01
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW25.rod
VCID: 36634CBE898657F24A-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712
Revision: B9074001
Coding: 002000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 70EFBAA6A36239C250-8024

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 248
Mileage: 63183 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.22
Time: 21:45:59


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0709
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6ADBA8CE8DBEC3121E-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 C
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V278
Coding: 11241
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 306F7AA6F7E279C210-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0110000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77FD81BACE0C6EFA91-8022

1 Fault Found:
5275648 - Left/Right Driving Switch-Over Active
C1080 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 55182 km
Date: 2016.09.03
Time: 16:56:13


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Address 56: Radio (J0503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 190 B HW: 5K0 035 190 B
Component: Radio RCD510 005 0236
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z3N3671732
Coding: 01000410020001
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 244786F6271AD562E4-8070

2 Faults Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 248
Mileage: 63202 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.23
Time: 15:59:21

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 248
Mileage: 63202 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.23
Time: 15:59:21


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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 5N0-035-729.clb
Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 B HW: 5N0 035 729 B
Component: TELEFON H05 0315
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007665390187
Coding: 0D00000080000010
Shop #: WSC 14160 993 999999
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
VCID: 2F6D79DA76DC663A09-807A

1 Fault Found:
0022 - Radio
U1066 00 [008] - No Communication
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 248
Mileage: 63183 km
Date: 2016.12.22
Time: 22:18:25


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looks like I have several faults despite there is no MIL light on... :oops:

Hey Ciclo are you still selling the auto lights kit for Polo? If you do I'm very interested in get one for my car. :D
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