6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Post by **ciclo** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:47 pm

CNK wrote:One more question .. Is the BCM 6R0 937 087 K is compatible with cruise control?

Yes.

CNK wrote: Could you tell me, if the wires are the same as here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... 90WHc/view
Greetings!

I do not understand what you mean exactly.
What wires?

CNK · Post by **CNK** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:41 pm

ciclo wrote: I do not understand what you mean exactly.
What wires?

I was thinking about CCS wiring to my 1.4 85 like yours to 1.2 TSI.
It's possible to 1.4 85KM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT2Jkb77uZ8

It's the same wiring set?

Post by **ciclo** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:05 pm

The cruise control system of my R-line is from factory.
And yes, the wiring you need to install CCS on your 1.4 has to be in the same way as you see in the previous link (made by ciclo

).

1.4 85ps july 2011
ECU

http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 45#p502036

CNK · Post by **CNK** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:35 pm

ciclo wrote: 1.4 85ps july 2011
ECU http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 45#p502036

Thanks!
My car is from July 2011, but the tenth letter of VIN is C, so it's 2012 model. Can I check my ECU number in VCDS?

sendoc · Post by **sendoc** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:37 pm

ciclo wrote:sendoc, normally 1.4 petrol (non BlueGT, non GTI) have a 80-pin ECU.
The cruise control pin in the ECU 1.4 is the T80 / 24.
engine code (CGGB) and model year B 1.4 6R.

Hi cilco
6RD 953 503 J - I saw this on aliexpress website.
Will this stalk fit my Polo ?

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:34 pm

sendoc wrote:
ciclo wrote:sendoc, normally 1.4 petrol (non BlueGT, non GTI) have a 80-pin ECU.
The cruise control pin in the ECU 1.4 is the T80 / 24.
engine code (CGGB) and model year B 1.4 6R.
Hi cilco
6RD 953 503 J - I saw this on aliexpress website.
Will this stalk fit my Polo ?

Hi snedoc...

.
Do not know, we need to know more information about your 6R.

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:40 pm

CNK wrote:
ciclo wrote: 1.4 85ps july 2011
ECU http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 45#p502036
Thanks!
My car is from July 2011, but the tenth letter of VIN is C, so it's 2012 model. Can I check my ECU number in VCDS?

All 6R which are manufactured in July is the following MY.
Yes, you can check the ECU with the VCDS.

CNK · Post by **CNK** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:01 pm

ciclo wrote: All 6R which are manufactured in July is the following MY.
Yes, you can check the ECU with the VCDS.

So probably it's my ECU number: 03C 906 024 CN

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Address 01: Engine
   Protocol: KWP2000
   Part No: 03C 906 024 CN
   Component:       CGGB  MM4HV   8994
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 00788

I bought this stalks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9uq7sm179t7r ... 8.jpg?dl=0
6R0953521B + ring 6R0959654, according to your instructions

I hope that this stalks will work properly.

But first I need to go to my friend to coding my new instrument cluster

(In Poland it is not possible to coding new instrument cluster in Volkswagen Dealership..

)

hmthakur · Post by **hmthakur** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:02 pm

Hi CNK,
From where did u order these stalks ?? Are they new or used?? I have to order them for my tsi

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CNK · Post by **CNK** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:43 pm

hmthakur wrote:Hi CNK,
From where did u order these stalks ?? Are they new or used?? I have to order them for my tsi

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Hey. They are used (from Polo GTI 2013). I bought them on online auction ( http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=5126319702)

Post by **ciclo** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:35 am

without Trip computer buttons
http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_odkw=6R0 ... B&_sacat=0

http://www.happyparts.de/

CNK · Post by **CNK** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:57 pm

ciclo wrote:1.4 85ps july 2011
ECU http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 45#p502036

Could you help me? I changed the instrument cluster and stalks, plugged cruise control and now I have error:
Error stabilisation control (ESC) when I press the gas pedał..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8xmj4r4tbs9y ... 5.jpg?dl=0

Post by **iichel** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:06 pm

i think you need to re-calibrate the steering angle sensor

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... Bosch_5.7)

CNK · Post by **CNK** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:41 pm

iichel wrote:i think you need to re-calibrate the steering angle sensor

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... Bosch_5.7)

Thanks, I tried this, but it didn't work...

my log from VCDS:

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VCDS Version: Release 12.12.3 (x64)
Data version: 20140905

Friday,11,December,2015,00:29:44:30570

Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 77

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY019098

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03C-906-024-BXW.lbl
   Part No SW: 03C 906 024 CN    HW: 03C 906 024 BH
   Component:       CGGB  MM4HV G 8994
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number:
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 6CD1B4F24CFC9D7E575-5072

1 Fault Found:
18038 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79)
            P1630 - 000 - Signal too Low - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 43261 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2064.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 78.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1009.8 mbar
                    RPM: 0 /min

Readiness: 0010 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
   Revision: --------
   Coding: 210224E3216E00BB842524EB84D900401300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 871B6B5E325ADE265A7-80D2

2 Faults Found:
18265 - Load Signal
            P1857 - 008 - Error Message from ECU
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 43357 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 00:24:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0007
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x3310
                    Hex Value: 0x13B6
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F00

01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 43357 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.14.00
                    Time: 00:24:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0007
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x3367
                    Hex Value: 0x13B6
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F00


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 G    HW: 6R0 820 045 G
   Component: Man AC         02 0101
   Revision: 0002S 02
   VCID: 326D6A8A6D580B8E5D9-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0256
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 158110732
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08F32400923808002C2B0CD100C0410F60040000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 85046 004 02308
   VCID: 45872156CCD68C36E8B-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 951 171 A    HW: K89 511 71A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX00NXZLZ
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4A9D126AEDC8634E059-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
   Serial number: 3575HRB40570INGS61HS

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:
   Serial number: 3585HRB405R0ILP041NW

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:
   Serial number: 3515RRB404P0K4DOJGD6

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:
   Serial number: 3525RRB404P0K4DOM92Z

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 CX    HW: 6R0 920 870 CX
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0608
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A00
   Shop #: WSC 85046 004 02308
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 8D1759765C26B47660B-80D8

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0256
   Revision: BF046001
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 85046 004 02308
   VCID: F0E9208223D4F99EEBD-80A5

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H05 0608
   Serial number:
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: EADD32EA0D08034EA59-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7660186144
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 295F8DE6408E4856EC3-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H23 6276
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P2234584
   Coding: 00000400000000A20000
   Shop #: WSC 85046 004 02308
   VCID: 3D7749B6A406C4F6B0B-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V12  8195

1 Fault Found:
00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 43256 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788
   VCID: 2F6B63FEEA6A2666327-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H23 6276
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P2234584
   Coding: 00000400000000A20000
   Shop #: WSC 85046 004 02308
   VCID: 3D7749B6A406C4F6B0B-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V12  8195

1 Fault Found:
00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 127
                    Mileage: 43256 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E    HW: 3C8 035 730 E
   Component: Telefon       025 0983
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105249241
   Coding: 020100010101010000000101
   Shop #: WSC 85046 004 02308
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 254781D624966C36C8B-8070

No ASAM data for: "EV_UHVPremi" (VW25)
No fault code found.

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Post by **ciclo** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:16 am

I suppose that firstly was installed the instrument cluster and at this moment had no problem.

What ring of steering column has installed, the original or the which was bought with the stalks?

Check the ECU connector, all the contact terminals must be firmly seated in its slot.
... also verifies that all cables for Cruise Control System (T41, BCM, ECU) are in the correct slot.

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