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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

Post by patil »

Mocro wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:33 pm I measured the cable with multi meter and the cable is ok, I also do not see other fault codes except the camera.

I plugged an other camera this also doenst work, with an other plug cable (blue).

Do you guys have some ideas??
This says that you are doing something wrong. Did you follow my suggestions? Please post the full vcds scan. Also kindly show us your wiring connections.
Thanks.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Yes patil I follow your instructions and you can see the pictures above:

I have 1 fault code and that is this

1 Fault Found:
6720 - Rear View Camera
B1102 31 [009] - No Signal
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 100
Mileage: 64470 km
Date: 2021.01.03
Time: 12:11:45

Voltage terminal 30: 11.1 V
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Thanks for the pictures.

I suspected something is wrong with wiring, and your pictures are the proof!!

Thats a awful way to tap power supply for your reverse camera. Very bad and risky too..atleast use a fuse tap. :roll:

Looks like the black wire is loose in blue connector, the terminal is not locked properly inside, please check.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Mocro wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:54 pm
Voltage terminal 30: 11.1 V
This says it all. you need atleast 12V power supply for RVC to work. Think :idea:

If RVC doesn't get required power supply to work, then how will it send video signal to your MIB2... and hence no signal error in 5F.

Food for thought. :wink:
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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I had a fuse tap but also with fuse tap it doenst work, i did this totday because with fuse tap the fuse wont get fully in the fusebox.

The reason why it sais it have 11.1 V is because the car wasn’t started. When i start the car it wil go to 12v.

Iknow that the way i do is risky but it was for the test.

I think it it something with the rvc cable to the MIB2. Is it possible that the pins in the MIB2 are broken inside or something?

The weirdest thing is that everything worked fine but after a few km it doesnt work
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Mocro wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:51 pm I had a fuse tap but also with fuse tap it doenst work, i did this totday because with fuse tap the fuse wont get fully in the fusebox.

The reason why it sais it have 11.1 V is because the car wasn’t started. When i start the car it wil go to 12v.

Iknow that the way i do is risky but it was for the test.

I think it it something with the rvc cable to the MIB2. Is it possible that the pins in the MIB2 are broken inside or something?

The weirdest thing is that everything worked fine but after a few km it doesnt work
I highly suspect your blue T12 connector of quadlock. The T12/12 black wire is partially out of its place, inspect it. And also provide clean +30 power to RVC for your tests.

I hope your boot is closed when you are making tests.

I doubt the MIB2 pins are broken, they are strong and hard. Anyway inspect.

Do complete thorough examination of your wiring.

Kindly post the requested full VCDS auto scan for clarity and to avoid confusions.

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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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patil wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:06 am

I highly suspect your blue T12 connector of quadlock. The T12/12 black wire is partially out of its place, inspect it. And also provide clean +30 power to RVC for your tests.

I hope your boot is closed when you are making tests.

I doubt the MIB2 pins are broken, they are strong and hard. Anyway inspect.

Do complete thorough examination of your wiring.

Kindly post the requested full VCDS auto scan for clarity and to avoid confusions.

Thanks.
That is my microphone I replace other t12 connector of the quadlock now everything is on its place. I inspect everything, the fuse is +30.

The black and yellow cable is for RVC, T12/7 Black and T12/1White is for Microphone. You see that T12/7 is little bit out of his space. But T12/12 and T12/6 is good.

I will post today the full VCDS scan.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Dinsdag,12,Januari,2021,17:51:43:00009
VCDS -- VAG/VAS Emulator onder Windows Loopt op Windows 10 x64
VCDS Versie: PRI 19.6.1.0
Data versie: 20190815 DS308.0
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Chassisnummer: -   Kenteken: 
KM-stand: -   Reparatieorder: 



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Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 14 15 17 19 44 5F 69

Chassisnummer: WVWZZZ6RZGY099627   KM-stand: 127542km

01-Motor -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Remmen -- Status: OK 0000
08-Airco/Verwarming -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Stuurassist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Wieldemping -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instrumenten -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
44-Stuur Hulp -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Info Electr. -- Status: Functioneert niet 0010
69-Aanhanger -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Gereedheid: N/A

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   Serienummer:  1509021A-0931
   Codering: 201000001011200201
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaValeoPQ26 003001
   ROD: EV_ACClimaValeoPQ26.rod
   VCID: 23455A8B2AD5F157A4-8076

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   Component: BCM PQ26 Hi4R H08 0094  
   Serienummer: 001588012482
   Codering: 0012085042530AFB4F844000402F07D800005B0253010000000000000000
   Dealer #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 006002
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_006_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3169A0C3602953C726-8064

   Sensor voor regen- en lichtherkenning: 
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   Component: RLHS  037 0059 
   Serienummer: S4Y15M09D11H01M15S51
   Codering: 9038DD

   Portierregelapparaat bestuurderszijde: 
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   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 9612 
   Serienummer: KU0KU016091552594078
   Codering: 0400A1

   Portierregelapparaat bijrijderszijde: 
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   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 9612 
   Serienummer: KU0KU008091552510560
   Codering: 1400A1

   Regelapparaat voor schuifdak: 
   Subsysteem 4 - Onderdeelnr. SW: 6R0 959 591 D    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
   Component: J245 PS72.403  H03 0004 
   Serienummer: 0000FST000HNTQN00000
   Codering: 181001

   Sensor luchtvochtigheid: binnen: 

   Portierregelapparaat achter: bestuurderszijde: 
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   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 8611 
   Serienummer: KU0KU010091552533482
   Codering: 0400A0

   Portierregelapparaat achter: bijrijderszijde: 
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   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 8611 
   Serienummer: KU0KU014091552571924
   Codering: 1400A0

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Adres 10: Park/Stuurassist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
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   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0048  
   Revisie: --------    Serienummer: 39391525300172
   Codering: 0031351101
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
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   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3D718CF3AC71A7A7B2-8068

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   Onderdeelnr. SW: 6C0 907 359     HW: 6C0 907 359 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H04 0007  
   Serienummer: 10091502000084
   Codering: 80
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SwitcDampeContiTemic 001004
   ROD: EV_SwitcDampeContiTemic.rod
   VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE01F27-803E

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Adres 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
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   Revisie: --------    Serienummer: 003RJ0055RSS
   Codering: 88CCC000000000005C0000CA000800000000
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
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   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 366393DF894774FF73-8062

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   Subsysteem 1 - Onderdeelnr. SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 209 15
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   Serienummer: 3575H00A11D1690141B9
   Codering: 2D2D2D

   Ongevalsensor voor zij-airbag: bijrijderszijde: 
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   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serienummer: 3585H00B91D5010233AA
   Codering: 2D2D2D

   Ongevalsensor voor zij-airbag achterin: bestuurderszijde: 
   Subsysteem 3 - Onderdeelnr. SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 109 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serienummer: 3517A00B91C4E1E2E35U
   Codering: 2D2D2D

   Ongevalsensor voor zij-airbag achterin: bijrijderszijde: 
   Subsysteem 4 - Onderdeelnr. SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 808 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serienummer: 3527A00B91C3DED4345X
   Codering: 2D2D2D

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Adres 17: Instrumenten (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
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   Component: KOMBI         201 1420  
   Codering: 07250900318000080D087A001000000000000000
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 23455A8B2AD5F157A4-8076

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Adres 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Onderdeelnr. SW: 6C0 909 901 A    HW: 6C0 937 089 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H08 0094  
   Revisie: --------    Serienummer: 001588012482
   Codering: 030100344F0A590071000000800000010001010000000000000000000000
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2643439F59E7047FC3-8072

   Regelapparaat voor multifunctiestuurwiel: 
   Subsysteem 1 - Onderdeelnr. SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Serienummer: 2531507341700601AD1B
   Codering: 280000

   Regelapparaat voor accubewaking: 
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   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serienummer: 62262M18192821707121

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Adres 44: Stuur Hulp (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Onderdeelnr. SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serienummer: PF9R0101
   Codering: 000700
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 6DD17CB3BC91F72742-8038

Geen foutcodes gevonden.

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Adres 5F: Info Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Onderdeelnr. SW: 3Q0 035 846     HW: 3Q0 035 846 
   Component: MU-S-N-ER     H24 0252  
   Serienummer: VWZAZ2R0492223
   Codering: 02620001BE00000051110001000808031F0300D401200100CF
   Dealer #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW26.rod
   VCID: 6ED37BBFB1970C3F7B-803A

   Weergave- en bedieningseenheid 1 informatie-elektronica: 
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   Component: ABTm_Std2_Nav  H53 1031 
   Serienummer: VWZ8Z9SKX02DCA      

   Sticker met gegevens: 
   Subsysteem 2 - Onderdeelnr. SW: 5NA 919 866 AG    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE AS 2020  --- 1310 
   Serienummer: --------------------

2 foutcodes gevonden:
1556 - Regelapparaat defect 
          B2000 87 [009] - Geen boodschap
          Bevestigd - Getest sinds Wissen Geheugen
             Freeze frame:
                    Fout Status: 00000001
                    Fout Prioriteit: 6
                    Fout Frequentie: 1
                    Reset Teller: 129
                    KM-stand: 127542 km
                    Datum: 2021.01.12
                    Tijd: 17:48:26

                    Spanning contact 30: 14.6 V
                    System_Software_Error-SW_Status_Consistency: 04 01 01
                    System_Software_Error-SW_Status_Device: o

6720 - Achteruitrijcamera 
          B1102 31 [009] - Geen signaal
          Bevestigd - Getest sinds Wissen Geheugen
             Freeze frame:
                    Fout Status: 00000001
                    Fout Prioriteit: 3
                    Fout Frequentie: 1
                    Reset Teller: 129
                    KM-stand: 127542 km
                    Datum: 2021.01.12
                    Tijd: 17:47:57

                    Spanning contact 30: 14.6 V


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Adres 69: Aanhanger (J345)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-383.clb
   Onderdeelnr. SW: 6C0 907 383 F    HW: 6C0 907 383 B
   Component: Anhaenger     H21 0203  
   Revisie: 8D001003    Serienummer: 0375570934
   Codering: 0100000202000000
   Dealer #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella 001008
   ROD: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2D51BCB37C11372702-8078

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Einde----------------------(Tijd verstreken: 02:46)------------------------
1556 - Regelapparaat defect
B2000 87 [009] - Geen boodschap
This fault code is because i enable carplay by a friend, but the camera was always working with this fault code
Here is the full scan, but is in dutch.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

Post by patil »

Ok Mocro, thanks for the autoscan. It would have been better if scan was in English, anyway it's ok.

If wiring is checked and everything is proper, then please check output at T12/6& T12/12 blue connector using multimeter. And also in address 10 adaptations, try setting reverse camera as display for park assist. Also I would suggest to connect can lines directly to MIB2 can wires rather than using converter supplied by the seller.

I've installed similar camera as yours, works well for me on MIB2. But my wiring connection is slightly different. I tapped +30 power from MIB2 power with inline fuse and ground from +31( MIB2 ground) and canlines directly connected as I mentioned above.

Please also do check your boot lock switch wiring for any short circuit.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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patil wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:21 pm Ok Mocro, thanks for the autoscan. It would have been better if scan was in English, anyway it's ok.

If wiring is checked and everything is proper, then please check output at T12/6& T12/12 blue connector using multimeter. And also in address 10 adaptations, try setting reverse camera as display for park assist. Also I would suggest to connect can lines directly to MIB2 can wires rather than using converter supplied by the seller.

I've installed similar camera as yours, works well for me on MIB2. But my wiring connection is slightly different. I tapped +30 power from MIB2 power with inline fuse and ground from +31( MIB2 ground) and canlines directly connected as I mentioned above.

Please also do check your boot lock switch wiring for any short circuit.
Thank you, How can I connect the the can lines directly?
It has 2 wires, do i have to solder it or something else?

I also testes the camera without the canbus converter from the seller and using the OEM cable of the canbus, but also it didn't work.
I think the +30 and the ground is'nt the problem, i always had a camera never was a problem until i changed for a new camera with can lines.
I will check this week the blue connector t12/6 and t12/12.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

Post by patil »

Mocro wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:57 pm
Thank you, How can I connect the the can lines directly?
It has 2 wires, do i have to solder it or something else?

I also testes the camera without the canbus converter from the seller and using the OEM cable of the canbus, but also it didn't work.
I think the +30 and the ground is'nt the problem, i always had a camera never was a problem until i changed for a new camera with can lines.
I will check this week the blue connector t12/6 and t12/12.
Hello Macro,

As far as I know, it's the canbus which regulates the power input, video output and dynamic lines of such cameras. I don't know exactly what type of canbus feeds your MIB2 on 6C VW 26. The electricals of 6C is different from 6R. Take help from experts on 6C about canbus.

You can connect to canbus wires of MIB2 by splicing the wires or using the Scotchlok connectors. Before doing that, do output tests on T12/ 6 and 12. I would recommend you to use quadlock extension connector and splice the wires of extension connector for canbus connection. This way you can avoid splicing factory wires.

Please do post adaptation map of your 5F and address 10 in English, I will have a look.

Don't loose heart, I am confident that you can solve the problem 👍
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Everybody thanks for the input, but I am going to remove the camera and going to OEM golf 7 flip camera. I checked the camera @ vw specalist and they told me the camera is dead.

For the OEM camera i need to have + wire in the fusebox for 6c it is SC46. But from where can i pull the wire from +30 to the fusebox my SC46 is empty.

Diagram is from golf 7
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Mocro wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:01 am
I checked the camera @ vw specalist and they told me the camera is dead.
The usual suspect, that's why I was telling you to test the output of T12/6 &12 to check if camera is working.

Anyway, thanks for informing us.

To find the +30 signal in fuse box, visually inspect the fuse box for presence of terminal inside any of empty fuse slots. If you find any then use multimeter or 12v tester to find out the type of signal present.

Thanks.
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Re: Help fitting Reverse Camera with RCD330 - Canbus

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Can I just say that I'm a bit shocked by the way you're running this red wire to a fuse. Come on man, you're better than this
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