Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by giannis20vt »

Finally, yesterday i made the cluster swap.
The new cluster working fine, but i have some errors when i scan with VCDS.

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                Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.CLB-SRI3
Control Module Part Number: 6C0 920 740 C    HW: 6C0 920 740 C
  Component and/or Version: KOMBI         201 1420
           Software Coding: 072409002180000801882A011000000000000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00788 648 00255
              ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046 (VW26)
                       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
                      VCID: 224B5F8F35CFF89BF5-8076
3 Faults Found:

16777028 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications 
          U1110 00 [009] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 254
                    Mileage: 63407 km
                    Date: 2021.12.29
                    Time: 06:41:15

16776960 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 254
                    Mileage: 63407 km
                    Date: 2021.12.29
                    Time: 06:41:12

16776961 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 254
                    Mileage: 63407 km
                    Date: 2021.12.29
                    Time: 06:41:12

Any ideas about those errors ?
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by amer6R »

You heed Hex V2, or ODIS to read the faults.
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by giannis20vt »

I will do the scanning with ODIS probably today and i will upload the results.
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by giannis20vt »

Finally, i scan test from a shop:

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Tuesday,04,January,2022,16:27:14:45969
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1  HEX-NET CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   License Plate: 
Mileage: 63422km-39408mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   Mileage: 63422km-39408miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 04C 906 057 AB    HW: 04E 907 309 CB
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H20 2496  
   Revision: 33H20000    
   Coding: 01110012020400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AA_VW26.rod
   VCID: 658256CF64D2576E19-8030

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0004  
   Serial number: 08512057160424
   Coding: 21DD2485492333C8091700700059842492CC90000005C9098F00
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 373ECC878EFE15FE7B-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 820 045 C    HW: 6C0 820 045 C
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 0202  
   Serial number:  1605161B-0418
   Coding: 200000000000100000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
   VCID: 1F0E0427060E4DBE93-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 087 C    HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ26 Me4R H08 0087  
   Serial number: 006088052444
   Coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 005005
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_005_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2E10E9E371A4D43628-807A

   Drivers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DG    HW: 6R0 959 801 DG  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU012051661335260
   Coding: 0000A0

   Front Passengers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DL    HW: 6R0 959 802 DL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU030041661212448
   Coding: 1000A0

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 AA    HW: 6R0 959 811 AA
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU028041661198823
   Coding: 0000A0

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 AA    HW: 6R0 959 812 AA
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU002051661233279
   Coding: 1000A0

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 J    HW: 6C0 959 655 J
   Component: VW20Airbag00A 002 0380  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003TH006KLNX
   Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3A38D5B3BDEC089684-806E

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 305 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H00A520BDDD2520R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 104 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00A5209A1C310AF
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00AF1FACC94822/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00C12060D61520W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 740 C    HW: 6C0 920 740 C
   Component: KOMBI         201 1420  
   Coding: 070409002180000811882A011000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 22080DD3357C6056BC-8076

3 Faults Found:
16777028 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications 
          U1110 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 63422 km
                    Date: 2022.01.04
                    Time: 16:25:17

16776960 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 63422 km
                    Date: 2022.01.04
                    Time: 16:25:14

16776961 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 63422 km
                    Date: 2022.01.04
                    Time: 16:25:14


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H08 0087  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 006088052444
   Coding: 01000008200A640071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_VW26.rod
   VCID: 658256CF64D2576E19-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serial number: PG5Q1139
   Coding: 000700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 6D922EEFBC226F2E51-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 6C0 035 888 B    HW: 6C0 035 888 B
   Component: MU-E--ER      851 6490  
   Serial number: 19041600012060
   Coding: 026200003C00000041110001010000001F0000840000010001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
   VCID: 2B16E0F742B6A11E0F-807E

1 Fault Found:
0523 - Front Left Treble Speaker 
          B1061 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 63422 km
                    Date: 2022.01.04
                    Time: 16:25:46

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.3 V


End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:48, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.2V)-----------

3 errors at Address 17: Instruments (J285)

Since i swap the cluster, i can't synchronized the remote control keys. I don't know if it is relevant or not.
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by giannis20vt »

Hi, i really need your help.
Today i was at a shop which has on line connection with ODIS ...
We were trying for 3,5 hours to adapt the remote keys. We even put back again the old (original) cluster, but still the error message was the same.
The remote key adaptation was not successful.
The following fault occurred
0χ31
Request out of range.


So now i have my old cluster on the car and no remote keys. I am desperate.

Here is the full scan i made it afterwards with my VCDS cable.

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Saturday,15,January,2022,08:10:09:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   License Plate: KIK3070
Mileage: 64333km-39974mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   Mileage: 64333km-39974miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 057 AB    HW: 04E 907 309 CB
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H20 2496  
   Revision: 33H20000    
   Coding: 01110012020400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB.rod
   VCID: 65C104936461CFA350-8030

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0100 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0004  
   Serial number: 08512057160424
   Coding: 21DD2485492333C8091700700059842492CC90000005C9098F00
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8D3332-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 820 045 C    HW: 6C0 820 045 C
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 0202  
   Serial number:  1605161B-0418
   Coding: 200000000000100000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
   VCID: 1F4D567B06BDD573DA-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 087 C    HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ26 Me4R H08 0087  
   Serial number: 006088052444
   Coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 005005
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_005.rod
   VCID: 2E53BBBF71174CFB61-807A

   Driver door control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DG    HW: 6R0 959 801 DG  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU012051661335260
   Coding: 0000A0

   Front passenger door control module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DL    HW: 6R0 959 802 DL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU030041661212448
   Coding: 1000A0

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 AA    HW: 6R0 959 811 AA
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU028041661198823
   Coding: 0000A0

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 AA    HW: 6R0 959 812 AA
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU002051661233279
   Coding: 1000A0

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 J    HW: 6C0 959 655 J
   Component: VW20Airbag00A 002 0380  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003TH006KLNX
   Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3A7B87EFBD5F905BCD-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 305 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H00A520BDDD2520R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 104 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00A5209A1C310AF
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00AF1FACC94822/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00C12060D61520W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 730 G    HW: 6C0 920 730 G
   Component: KOMBI         101 1420  
   Coding: 0724090021000008110808000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2541449324E10FA390-8070

2 Faults Found:
13697024 - Component Protection 
          U1100 00 [009] - No Basic Setting
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 26
                    Mileage: 64326 km
                    Date: 2021.12.25
                    Time: 00:05:05

9603840 - Incorrect Key Programming for Remote Control 
          B128B 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 26
                    Mileage: 64326 km
                    Date: 2021.12.25
                    Time: 00:05:30


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H08 0087  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 006088052444
   Coding: 01000008200A640071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_VW26.rod
   VCID: 65C104936461CFA350-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serial number: PG5Q1139
   Coding: 000700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 6DD17CB3BC91F7E318-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 035 888 B    HW: 6C0 035 888 B
   Component: MU-E--ER      851 6490  
   Serial number: 19041600012060
   Coding: 026200003C00000041110001010000001F0000840000010001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2B55B2AB420539D346-807E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:15)--------------------------
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by giannis20vt »

And just like that, without any reason the keys started working again. I didn't do anything.
I will do a VCDS scanning later to see if there is any new error codes, or something new in general.
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by iichel »

would be interesting to see if your 2 errors in your instrument cluster have disappeared
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Re: Instrument cluster swap Polo 6C

Post by giannis20vt »

Update:
The errors are still exist. erased them but they reappeared immediately.
Both of keys working fine !!!

So far i didn't managed to have a successful swap of the cluster instrument. But at least i have my remote keys working again.

Maybe i have to swap first the BCM module, my original is the most simply BCM of all Polos 6c. (6C0937087C)
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