New car - Retro fit questions- part numbers?

[Darrenblackpolo]

HI All

New to this forum but have been on other forums over the years, My daughter has just purchased a 2010 1.6tdi polo, appears to be decent so far, but I am wondering what retro fits are available and what the forum think are worth doing or a waste of time?

My first job is cruise control, I have already completed this retro fit on my 2002 golf tdi and need to do this for hers, I have looked at lots of info on the internet and on here and am struggling to find the correct part number for the stalk and wiring loom, I think I got the one for my golf direct from TPS many years back now, but called them last week and they were not any help!

Can you guys give me the part numbers I should be looking at

and then any other retro fits worth fitting and part numbers I should look at (auto head lights worth it??) MFSW? sound system?

I have VCDS official cable but few years old so only the HEX + Can version not the newer hex-net version but believe I can recode what I need to on a 2010 car, I have also used it quite a bit over the years so know my way around the VCDS system a bit.

Below is some of the scan info I think is needed to find the part numbers I am asking for, if there is anything else needed please shout.

the part number for the stalks I have on the car currently is 6Q0 953 503 EE

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU033060

Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 BC HW: 03L 906 023 D
Component: R4 1.6l TDI H13 9979
Revision: --H13--- Serial number: CVN: DB10FCA7
Coding: 00114014000500080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023BC 003014
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
VCID: 68DF5B6A93469ACDEB-803C
VINID: 9E69EAAAA1A2A919400C30060001CFDC24

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 H HW: 6R0 937 087 D
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0230
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0147 016100775
Coding: 25B02BBF08F32400933000003D2B0ED00008410F60060000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 00591 210 91755
VCID: 428BA9C2DDBA909D15-8016

Thanks in advance

Darren

[iichel]

6Q0 953 503 EJ is the stalks you probably like to have with Cc and MFA

[Darrenblackpolo]

I assume CC being cruise control and MFA being multi function display? what would I get out of the MFA the car has the display with the white writing but not sure what it can do and what changing it would do for me, also, if I am changing it, what part numbers would I be looking for?

Ill look for the stalks now on net, anyone know is TPS.VW do a whole kit supplied with wiring loom?

Cheers

Darren

[iichel]

Yes correct for both abbreviations. VW don't supply a kit, you will need to make or purchase wiring separately.

[Darrenblackpolo]

Ok, so just ordered a cable loom, can’t be bothered to get bits and make one!

Will look for the stalks again tomorrow onwards, are there any other numbers that would work for the stalks?

What is the difference between the standard display I have and upgrading it? I what would I gain?

cheers

Darren

[mirceaculita]

The standard display only shows outside temperature and the range when the fuel light comes on. With mfd enabled you can see a lot more stuff like have a big digital speedo(this must be activated separately), instant/average fuel consumption etc.

[Darrenblackpolo]

Thanks for the info.
I have done a little reading last night before sleeping, it looks like I use the same display but put some extra wire in and then activate it using vcds, is that correct? Is there a thread on this already on the site?

Cheers

Darren

[iichel]

Yes that is correct. I'm sure someone has done the mfa before but probably not in a dedicated topic.

[Darrenblackpolo]

HI Again

I have found one article on a different site, it does not say anything about activating the MFA just says it needs 4 wires from T41 to the cluster, I will look again later but assume this will need activating in VCDS? or does it automatically become active if the wires are there and I activate the CC?

Also, on that thread, the user had CC stalks as part number 6R0 953 521 C, can I use this too or am I restricted to 6Q0 953 503 EJ?

Cheers

Darren

[iichel]

Typically an electrical retrofit will require coding. The MFA is operated by three wires to the cluster, and needs to be activated in the instrument cluster coding.
Cruise control will be six wires to the stalks, four to the BCM, one to the ECU and one to the fuse box. It requires coding of the BCM and ECU.

Your model year 2010 car needs 6Q0 stalks. Your steering angle sensor does not fit the 6R0 stalks.

[Darrenblackpolo]

Thanks for the info, quite interesting as the other user said his stalks and sensors did not fit together, so he took to a dremmel/utility knife I think and shaved some off the unit to allow it to fit.

There appear to be quite a lot of 6R0 stalks about, not many 6Q0 stalks so the price is a lot more for the 6Q0 models, do you know if thats the only issue or are there other issues ? Ill probably keep looking for a 6Q0 model but its tempting to try a 6R0 model.

[iichel]

I'm not sure if that's the only. You tell me...

[Darrenblackpolo]

not sure either, but have just found out, if you search 6Q0 953 503 EJ on fleebay, you dont get many results and quite expensive, if you search 6Q0953503EJ you get a lot more items at much more reasonable prices.

the one im about to order is from a skoda fabia, but says its not suitable for my car, dont believe it though as its the correct part number so will order.

should have all the bits soon enough so will need to sort out a day to fit them

thanks for ya help so far, will probably be back! will update how I get on when I have completed the job.

[Darrenblackpolo]

OK, So I need a little help and dont know if I should put on this thread or start a new thread, so Ill put on here for now.

I got all the correct stuff and have fitted it, followed info posted on here and several sites, the Cruise control appears to work from a measuring block point of view as I can see bits working when I turn on/off and press the buttons, so believe I have completed things correctly, but I now have some faults.

Engine module, fuel pump issue,
ABS module , rear left wheel issue.
see scan

When I first power up the system after disconnecting the ECUs etc, I get quite a few codes but after 2 x auto scans and clearing the other faults, this is what I am left with.

Anyone have any ideas< where to start? where are the Fuel pump relay, fuses etc?

Car wont start!
Finger crossed someone can help
Darren

Sunday,23,October,2022,14:41:40:13633
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU033060 License Plate:
Mileage: 132400km-82269mi Repair Order: pump issue



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU033060 Mileage: 132400km-82269miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 BC HW: 03L 906 023 D
Component: R4 1.6l TDI H13 9979
Revision: --H13--- Serial number: CVN: DB10FCA7
Coding: 00114014002500080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023BC 003014
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
VCID: 68DF5B6A93469ACDEB-803C
VINID: 9E69EAAAA1A2A919400C30060001CFDC24

1 Fault Found:
7391 - Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit
P0628 00 [165] - Short to Ground
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 132407 km
Date: 2022.10.23
Time: 00:13:29

Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 21 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.294 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine RPM: 0 /min
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Battery voltage: 11.3 V
Fuel high-pressure: actual value-FUP_FIL: 0.000 MPa
Fuel Metering Valve-VCV: 0.000 %
Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve-PCV: 0.000 %

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 R HW: 6R0 907 379 R
Component: ESP8.2i front H04 0002
Revision: --------
Coding: 230228E3417000B5C42514E882D100821300
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
VCID: 4D918AFE10E45FE5F8-8018

1 Fault Found:
00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 76
Mileage: 132407 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.03.15
Time: 00:07:58

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0007
Hex Value: 0x0002
Hex Value: 0x12B1
Hex Value: 0x089A
Hex Value: 0x007F
Hex Value: 0x7F7F
Hex Value: 0x7F00
Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 J HW: 6R0 820 045 J
Component: Climatic 24 0660
Revision: 00 10 24
VCID: 3561C21E9C743725A0-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 H HW: 6R0 937 087 D
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0230
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0147 016100775
Coding: 25B02BBF08F32400933000003D2B0ED00088410F60060000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 00591 210 91755
VCID: 428BA9C2DDBA909D15-8016

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 240909 05 54 0402
Coding: 03302D

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 R HW: 6R0 959 802 R Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 0903
Serial number: KU0-KU015.12.0910163
Coding: 18BC30

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 T HW: 6R0 959 801 T Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU021.01.1016500
Coding: 08BC30

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H09 9002
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F HW: 6R0 959 811 F
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU014.01.1010945
Coding: 08BC32

Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F HW: 6R0 959 812 F
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU005.01.1016406
Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 C HW: 6R0 959 655 C
Component: VW10Airbag00B H09 0018
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003DW00ADFTT
Coding: 003042
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 428BA9C2D5BA909D15-8016

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3572SRB40000A6A0820.

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 3582SRB40000A3A149FB

Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Serial number: 3516GRB402V9DB9KTR1A

Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Serial number: 3526GRB402TCN6A93RN3

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 D HW: 6R0 920 961 D
Component: KOMBI H03 0205
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 440A00
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
VCID: 377DC8168E78C535B2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R0 937 087 D
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0230
Coding: 002300
Shop #: WSC 00591 210 91755
VCID: 70EF330AA396520DB3-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 0205
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03006
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6ADB21628D4AA8DDFD-803E

No fault code found.

[iichel]

Fault is not confirmed so not present. Perhaps you need to clear it again. Otherwise all is fine.