Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post FORUM SPECIFIC questions here: Such as, "HELP, I can't keep logged in for more than one session" etc... Not general help questions such as "my car won't start". You get the idea?
Post Reply
wolfie
Gold Member
Posts: 571
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:56 am
Drives: 6R1-1.2 TSI (2011, CBZB, 77Kw, 35Kmiles)
Location: North Staffs (UK)

Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by wolfie »

Starting this like a letter to an agony Aunt. I not asking for me, I'm asking for a friend... LOL

OK so not a Polo question but another VAG group vehicle. A relative of mine runs a 2010 VW Jetta 1.6TDi (105bhp) It has a 7 speed DSG gearbox. Cars been looked after reasonably well and has 75K on the clock which is not too bad considering its age.

Problem is it's started to sound very very clattery on tick-over and the tick-over can be uneven. On the move it's quietens off and drives OK. Having had a listen, I thought I'd have quick Google and see if there any common issues that pop up. Low and behold I found a couple of YouTube videos that sound all but identical to the issues with the Jetta. It sounds like this.

https://youtu.be/7jJE27D6oRQ?list=PLmg1 ... _86xz3bKxa

So my best guess would be a failing DMF. Obviously the car need to be looked at by someone with more knowledge than myself. But I'm reasonably confident that is where his problems lie.

He's popped the car to transmission specialist this morning and they tend to agree (but want a proper look/diagnosis first. Which is fair enough) The kicker is they are quoting £1350 to replace the DMF. Now I know DMF's particularly for his particular 7 speedDSG are expensive £400+ for parts. But £1350 sounds very expensive. The components that get swapped don't look much more difficult than replacing a clutch.

Any opinions on cost?
User avatar
iichel
Bling Bling Diamond Member
Posts: 6361
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:14 pm
Drives: Polo 6R 2.0 TDI, Passat B8 2.0 TSI
Location: http://mypassat.nl/

Re: Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by iichel »

You could ask for a specification between labour and part costs.
I think 1350 is a bit much, but then again, a 03L105266BT will costs about 800 euros incl VAT at the dealership. Another 500 euros for labour (4-5 hours) isn't too bad, considering you must remove subframe, gearbox and do an alignment afterwards.
wolfie
Gold Member
Posts: 571
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:56 am
Drives: 6R1-1.2 TSI (2011, CBZB, 77Kw, 35Kmiles)
Location: North Staffs (UK)

Re: Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by wolfie »

Yeah. Unfortunately the DMF that is paired to the 7speedDSG looks to be about the most expensive variant.

Just had a quick look, 03G105266BL / 03G105266CF appear to be the part numbers, (I don't have his VIN so can't have a thorough check.) They are both around the around £500 mark (LuK). As you say 4-5 hours labour gets you to a £1000 without too much trouble. It's a lot of money to spend on a car of that age. I'd bet the car books at under £2000 anyway.
User avatar
iichel
Bling Bling Diamond Member
Posts: 6361
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:14 pm
Drives: Polo 6R 2.0 TDI, Passat B8 2.0 TSI
Location: http://mypassat.nl/

Re: Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by iichel »

You must be very careful when ordering the DMF since they are not exchangable between DQ200 gen 2 and DQ200 gen 3. The mark is around halfway 2012. IIRC the CF DMF is for the latter and the BL is for the first one. And your 2010 is the 'older' type DMF. So take good care when ordering the part.
wolfie
Gold Member
Posts: 571
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:56 am
Drives: 6R1-1.2 TSI (2011, CBZB, 77Kw, 35Kmiles)
Location: North Staffs (UK)

Re: Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by wolfie »

iichel wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:27 pm You must be very careful when ordering the DMF since they are not exchangable between DQ200 gen 2 and DQ200 gen 3. The mark is around halfway 2012. IIRC the CF DMF is for the latter and the BL is for the first one. And your 2010 is the 'older' type DMF. So take good care when ordering the part.
Cheers. Gut feeling is it's better left to a specialist or a least someone has done one before. It's my uncles car and he is supposed to be having a ring round over the course of the day. Ironically he's been thinking about getting something newer for the past 6 months. Think he fancies a Skoda Karoq or VW Tiguian. Looks like he's hung on to this one just that little bit too long.
User avatar
iichel
Bling Bling Diamond Member
Posts: 6361
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:14 pm
Drives: Polo 6R 2.0 TDI, Passat B8 2.0 TSI
Location: http://mypassat.nl/

Re: Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by iichel »

These DQ200 DMF failures are not uncommon, they fail about every 100.000 miles unfortunately.
wolfie
Gold Member
Posts: 571
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:56 am
Drives: 6R1-1.2 TSI (2011, CBZB, 77Kw, 35Kmiles)
Location: North Staffs (UK)

Re: Dual Mass Flywheel cost?

Post by wolfie »

iichel wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:02 pm These DQ200 DMF failures are not uncommon, they fail about every 100.000 miles unfortunately.
Unfortunately he's learned that the hard way. It's only about 2 years since the pressure accumulator failed in the mechatronic side of things. Again, another pretty well known fault. IIRC that cost in the region of £900. I guess you have to try and be philosophical about it. He's had the car from new, it's almost 13 years old now. Other than wear and tear items it's been very reliable. But it's the law of diminishing returns, cars not worth much now so just how much money do you spend on it before calling it a day buying something newer?

Have to say I've had the same thoughts myself. I bought my Polo new in 2011, and it's been well cared for. But they all age and wear, nothing runs forever. When a big bill comes along you question your thinking on spending the money to keep it going or get something newer. Or whether you should have moved on years ago.
Post Reply