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Polo 1.2TSi 7DSG Long coding

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Hello everyone!

My name is Vedant and I have an Indian spec 1.2 TSi 7DSG Polo! I recently replaced my clockspring with a used one as my original one short circuited during some other retrofits. How ever after installing the used clockspring and copying the long coding over, the car Traction light refuses to go away! I tried following all basic adaptation procedures for the steering angle sensor, but it always stops at aborted due to safety reasons. The ABS unit also has a fault code that says it cannot function due to a coding error in another module which i think is the steering angle sensor. I will be posting the auto scan for my car below, so I would request if someone can help me figure out the long coding for the ABS Unit and the Steering angle sensor! The autoscan should provide you with all the data you need! You can ignore the Airbag, Radio, and Transmission errors can be ignored as I'm already working on fixing the wheel speed sensor.

VIN: MEXL15600GT047804 License Plate:
Mileage: 61560km-38251mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (6RU)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: MEXL15600GT047804 Mileage: 61560km-38251miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB) Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270
Revision: --H10--- Serial number: CVN: A3186598
Coding: 00250056232400080000
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
VCID: 6D87C9A91D1200B2F45-8038
VINID: 755A1C04518001790010720010EE8A83E2

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 041 D HW: 0AM 927 769 F
Component: GSG DQ200G2_PQ 050 2602
Revision: 00005008 Serial number: CU501807275055
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 00642 210 45725
VCID: 2A0D02B5E0FCD78A517-807E

1 Fault Found:
006279 - Wheel-Speed Signal from ABS Control Module
P1887 - 000 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 96
Reset counter: 10
Mileage: 61329 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.11.14
Time: 18:58:04


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BN HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 62DD2463422703C7461C24694255C0800908
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
VCID: 0B43A73103C6AE824A1-805E

4 Faults Found:
0990 - Steering angle sensor
B1168 54 [10001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 17
Mileage: 61563 km
Date: 2021.11.24
Time: 07:22:30

0993 - Steering angle sensor
B1168 54 [10001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 17
Mileage: 61563 km
Date: 2021.11.24
Time: 07:20:42

0384 - Rear Right Wheel Speed Sensor
C101D 01 [10001001] - Electrical Failure
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 17
Mileage: 61563 km
Date: 2021.11.24
Time: 07:20:42

0395 - Rear Right Wheel Speed Sensor
C101D 01 [10000001] - Electrical Failure
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 09071713470352
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7EA5FEE540748B2A5DF-802A

1 Fault Found:
1140736 - Steering angle sensor
B1168 07 [00001001] - Mechanical Failure
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 136
Reset counter: 16
Mileage: 61101 km
Date: 2021.11.08
Time: 17:40:07

Voltage terminal 15: 13.40 V
Voltage terminal 30: 13.90 V
Terminal 15 status: On


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 Q HW: 6R0 907 044 Q
Component: Climatronic H12 0615
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 41DF4519718A34D260D-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6RU 937 087 M HW: 6RU 937 087
Component: BCM IM H+4 H40 0432
Revision: BZ040001 Serial number: 0300 294150025
Coding: 7AB02FF808A10000003820007F2B949000C0004F608C0040200000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
VCID: 6C81C4AD268809BAE3B-8038

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 CC HW: 6R0 959 802 CC Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: ------------- 007 5551
Serial number: 13202670150723011434
Coding: 050000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BT HW: 6R0 959 801 BT Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: ------------- 007 5551
Serial number: 13202671150811210237
Coding: 050000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L HW: 6R0 959 811 L
Component: ------------- 006 5550
Serial number: 13102580150623201032
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L HW: 6R0 959 812 L
Component: ------------- 006 5550
Serial number: 13102581150809000647
Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J HW: 6R0 959 655 J
Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GW010RXK3 Dataset Number: v00300446RU 0001
Coding: 003036
Shop #: WSC 00000 938 41592
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 49CF5D39493AFC92B8D-801C

1 Fault Found:
9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag
B1000 1B [10001001] - Resistance Too High
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 61327 km
Date: 2021.11.14
Time: 17:40:09


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6RF 920 861 HW: 6RF 920 861
Component: KOMBI H01 0214
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 5308000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
VCID: 0849983D12B0C59A673-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
Part No SW: 6RU 909 901 HW: 6RU 937 087
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H40 0432
Revision: BZ040001
Coding: 002300
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
VCID: 196FCD79B99A4C12C8D-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H01 0214
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6A8DC2B52CFC178A917-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P HW: 1S2 909 144 P
Component: EPS_ECU H61 1702
Dataset Number: 6RF074v____ 0118
Coding: 0001000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014_VW12.rod
VCID: 41DF4519710A34D260D-8014

1 Fault Found:
0231 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [00001001] - -
[Error value monitoring mBremse_3 Message]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 16
Mileage: 61563 km
Date: 2021.11.24
Time: 07:05:07

Voltage terminal 15: 13.507 V
Voltage terminal 30: 14.137 V
Engine RPM: 651.00 /min
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Status: Release


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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 A HW: 6RD 035 187 A
Component: MIB2-S-R-CN 025 0210
Revision: -----001 Serial number: 09845GD0072029
Coding: 00000400040001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
VCID: 45D7510965A218F25C5-8010

4 Faults Found:
00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 61327 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.11.14
Time: 17:40:13

00875 - Treble Speaker Front Right (R22)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 61327 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.11.14
Time: 17:40:13

00874 - Treble Speaker Front Left (R20)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 61327 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.11.14
Time: 17:40:13

00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 61327 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2021.11.14
Time: 17:40:13


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Re: Polo 1.2TSi 7DSG Long coding

Post by ciclo »

Hi, did you install the G85 sensor taking into account its position?

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01 is the correct coding but you have not entered the WSC.


This is my WSC in case you want to copy it.
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 08021613470174
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7EA5038420709E9A7D7-802A

No fault code found.

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or enter 12345 123 12345.


Please provide the type and size of the front and rear brakes. I don't have enough data for your ESP9.0i, maybe someone else can help with your ABS coding.
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Re: Polo 1.2TSi 7DSG Long coding

Post by patil »

Dear Master, Polo 6R sold here came with 254mm front disc and 200mm rear drums.

I see too many red flags in the autoscan. Most notable is steering angle sensor " mechanical failure" indicating hardware issue if I guessed it right. This might also explain why calibration/ basic settings is unsuccessful. 🤔
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Hence my question, if the G85 sensor is not installed correctly, the interior flex cable breaks before reaching the end stops of the steering wheel... it has happened to several users here.🤷‍♂️

For the ABS coding I think you or iichel have more data for the 6R IND.
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Re: Polo 1.2TSi 7DSG Long coding

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One of the errors is simply the basic setting of the steering angle sensor, how did you do a calibration? Would be good to know.
Also, what is the part number of your clock spring? Is it 6Q0... or 6R0...? Genuine VW?
Scan says 6R0, so that's good. Just making sure. ESP 9.0i needs 6R0 clock spring/steering angle sensor.
Like ciclo says, you need to be sure it's straight and centered. Do you have live values?

I double-checked your current coding and it seems to be perfectly fine.

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Also check live values for wheel speed sensors please, both rears seems to have failed or disconnect?
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Re: Polo 1.2TSi 7DSG Long coding

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iichel wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:56 am One of the errors is simply the basic setting of the steering angle sensor, how did you do a calibration? Would be good to know.
Also, what is the part number of your clock spring? Is it 6Q0... or 6R0...? Genuine VW?
Scan says 6R0, so that's good. Just making sure. ESP 9.0i needs 6R0 clock spring/steering angle sensor.
Like ciclo says, you need to be sure it's straight and centered. Do you have live values?

I double-checked your current coding and it seems to be perfectly fine.

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Also check live values for wheel speed sensors please, both rears seems to have failed or disconnect?
The part number is a 6R0.. taken off another exact car. Also another interesting thing I noticed is that I can read the values of the steering angle sensor accurately from the ABS Module measuring blocks, but not from the Steering angle sensor ones so I'm a little skeptical of the steering angle sensor not working mechanically. Do I adapt the modules in a particular order or something? Also as someone asked, I tried the adaptions from the adaptions menu of each respective module. Steering angle sensor calibration said running, and finished almost instantly. The ABS module adaptation for steering angle sensor is the one that always gets aborted due to safety. Should I maybe just try another clockspring or check the alignment?
The wheel speed sensors also seem to always go out on the rears, possibly due to a low battery? I'll get the sensors fixed then try the adaptions once again maybe
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was the software and hardware number a match between old and new module?
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iichel wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:53 pm was the software and hardware number a match between old and new module?
I do not have a scan of the previous car with the old sensor! The car is a same spec and similar year car so I dont think it had anything else extra from factory. Another thing I wanted to also know is I have 312mm GTi brakes installed in the front with stock rear drum brakes! From my current knowledge, this combination isn't possible in the ABS module, but is there anyway I can code the ABS module to atleast something more apt!
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I cannot do a suggestion for front 312mm and rear drums, sorry. I would suggest to consider rear discs, this is a very strange combination in many ways :wink:
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Indian cars do not even get the rear axle to be able to install rear discs, hence the only option we have is to get the biggest front kit possible. I've been driving it for well over 15k KMS, everything works well but i just feel that the ABS kicks in a little bit too early. Can anyone please try explaining to me how I should probably try recalibrating the ABS Module and Steering angle sensor?
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I suppose you could try 288mm fronts with rear drums:
62DD4C63422703C7461C32694255C0800908
or
62DD4463422703C7461C22694255C0800908

if fails:
62DD4C63422703C7461C32694255C0880908
or
62DD4463422703C7461C22694255C0880908

still not ideal, but might prevent most lock-ups
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Re: Polo 1.2TSi 7DSG Long coding

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iichel I am afraid, none of the codings you've provided will be accepted by his ABS module. He must upgrade his ABS module firmware first.
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Post by patil »

Vedant, the best course of action for you would be to fix the speed sensor issue first. And then try recalibrating angle sensor ( do it with engine running). As iichel said, your ABS coding is perfectly fine.
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