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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:04 pm
by stuart_hatch
david burton wrote:sorry, saw 130bhp above

you're right - parkers quote 120bhp and 815kg roughly 150bhp a tonne :shock: isn't that similar power to weight as a g40?
Not quite, even against a 306 Gti 6 (167 bhp) gets wasted by a G40

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:05 pm
by PhilGTi
Ah! I appretiate the speed of the 106 GTi's but wouldnt have one! The interior in them is just too dated and the exterior doesnt scream quality either!?

Thats just me tho, i like a compromise between speed/quality/toys!

Phill.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:07 pm
by jezmk4
i dont think a 106 gti weighs 815kg a G40 weighs more than 850

more like 915 for the gti

also to note all Vw figures are taken with half payload,

(mk4 payload 450kg)

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:10 pm
by PhilGTi
also to note all Vw figures are taken with half payload,

(mk4 payload 450kg)
What do you mean dude?

Phill.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:13 pm
by jezmk4
i mean all Vw performance figures stated in their brochures are taken with a half of the max suggested payload

the max payload is 450 kg

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:16 pm
by david burton
[quote="stuart_hatch]Not quite, even against a 306 Gti 6 (167 bhp) gets wasted by a G40[/quote]

but isn't a gti-6 about 1100kg? bringing it to 150bhp per tonne too..... it must all be close power to weight - but i guess the g40's forced induction gives it way more torque over the whole range...

just guessing here, BTW! i know it's not _all_ power to weight involved

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:17 pm
by jezmk4
im not srue a standard G would beat a gti-6?

a mildly modded one would though

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:36 pm
by carmadaaron
polosilver wrote:106 GTI
0-60 = 8.7 s

Thats not hugely fast.. Polo Gti is 8.4, not sure how accurate these figures are though!

Phill.
ive read 7.6 secs for the 106

and Polo gti is 8.7

(what car figures i think)

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:56 pm
by Criz
Ive only ever raced one 106 GTI, rolling start off a roundabout. I was infront to begin with and he couldnt get past me upto over 100mph before i came off the throttle due to cars up ahead.

He has a full s/s decat exhaust system whereas I had the same plus a supersprint manifold, filter and stripped out-ness.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:32 pm
by stuart_hatch
His car must be screwed or he cant drive :P

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:35 pm
by Criz
stuart_hatch wrote:His car must be screwed or he cant drive :P
Unlikely.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:36 pm
by stuart_hatch
And your 100% sure it was a 106 Gti and not a Quicksilver (same but silver and 1.4) It dosnt really add up with a 106 being lighter and more powerfull :S

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:43 pm
by Criz
Quick silver? Are you taking the p***? Their slow as sh*t.

Yes I know the guy, hence why I know his mods.

I was running faster times at the 1/4 mile strip too but if it doesnt add up I must be lying.....Obviously.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:44 pm
by stuart_hatch
Not saying your lying, im just saying How a 120bhp car can be slower than a 100bhp car that is heavier also

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:47 pm
by Criz
stuart_hatch wrote:Not saying your lying, im just saying How a 120bhp car can be slower than a 100bhp car that is heavier also
1) My car doesnt have 100bhp

2) My car isnt the standard weight