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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:46 pm
by Tris
So the disc moves quite alot then?

Does it judder under hard braking?

Ideally you should take the wheel off and have a closer look or get a garage to do it if you don't have a decent jack/tools etc.

Wonder if one of the studs is damaged? Or the disc :?

By the way don't burn your fingers on the disc, they get pretty hot after any hard braking :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:34 pm
by AKs_SlickPolo
Sounds to me like you guys need spigot rings. What wheels or what brand r they?

the spigot of VWs is 57.1. Yours are probably bigger otherwise they wouldnt fit. Spigot rings reduce the bore size to make it fit tightly on bore. If u dont have these, the wheels weight is probably on the bolts, which ive heard aint too safe as the weight of the car is on the bolts and could snap! dont mean to scare u guys but you may getting this because your cars weight is on the bolts. Personally i wouldnt have wheels on if this was the case.

wheels

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:55 pm
by wesley666
Yeah i noticed they were hot after i touched it lol doh, silly me

Yeah does move quite a bit not massive but definally some give went tot take to garage but they are closed at 1 today so that annoyed me lol

Spigot rings? wat r they? they are TSW 15" wheels

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:03 pm
by AKs_SlickPolo
Spigot rings are as i described above. This is what they are

Check this link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SPIGOT-RINGS-FOR- ... dZViewItem

tsw wheels have a bore of 72mm. according to this, you definetely need them in order to reduce the bore to 57mm for VWs. They are plastic rings that are pushed into the bore so that the fit onto the bore without a gap. I would buy some and try it, esp since their not expensive. mind u the link i sent charges 20quid or something. but go to a local tyre shop...it will only be like 1 or 2 quid per wheel

rings

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:39 pm
by wesley666
Yeah I got some of them cost me loads they said i needed them which is true and of course was not included in price so shot up like 80 quid which annoyed me.

so its not them thats causing it, i really think its the disk of the brake now as that wobbles i'm gonna take it to garage on monday and say please fix it lol which is annoying as means even more money to spend oh well

Thanks for help anyway i gotta go put up xmas tree now, does anyone else think that is early lol i do but no choice in the matter :)

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:50 pm
by mysteryboy
Nah I dont think its the spigot rings as I had the same prob even when I was riding on 13"...
I think its obviously something minor but tricky to locate...

yeah

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:57 pm
by wesley666
Think i will have to take wheel off tomoz dont really want to as means i may have to get it rebalanced when i put it back on :?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:31 pm
by AKs_SlickPolo
oh didnt read ure brake disc post. :oops: there is usually a securing screw for the brake disc, maybe this is loose. although it dont do much, it still helps it stay tight and in place. Jack the car up and spin the wheel to see if it wobbles or if there is any play or creaking noise.

As for removing your wheel, u do not have to get it re-balanced, as the wheel is not balanced against the car.

no worries

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:50 pm
by wesley666
Cheers, ok so if i jack it up tomoz and take of wheel then do i spin it? or spin it with wheel on?

But once wheel is off i will be able to find this securing screw hopefully thats the prob as the disk does wobble fingers crossed that will sort it

I'll have ago tomoz and let u know thanks again

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:05 pm
by AKs_SlickPolo
Spin the wheel when jacked up. if it makes a creaking noise when u start to rotate it, it could even be your wheel bearing.

if its continuous its the likely to be the brake disc.

Im quite sure brake discs are not meant to wobble at all. probs the screw came off or is just loose and is only held in place by caliper? u should notice when u have the wheel of anyway hope this helps

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:38 pm
by Tris
The disc shouldn't be loose at all really, as the brake pads only sit a few mm either side of it!

Like AK said it's probably the securing screw on the disc... I didn't realise it had them.

What jack you using anyway? The standard jack's a bit pants from what I've heard so if you use axle stands or bricks as a backup it might make it a bit safer :lol:

good luck

Let us know what it is :D

cheers guys

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:07 pm
by wesley666
Yeah the other sides disk dont wobble at all

yeah the jack with the car is bit naff pinched a 2 tonne hydraulic jack from my dad so that should do the trick lol

I'll try it tomoz and let u know outcome thanks again for help :P

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:19 pm
by david burton
the securing screw does nothing to hold the disc on once the wheels are tightened - it's just for locating the disc and making sure it doesn't fall off once the wheel is taken off

the wheels tightens against the disc - so it is impossible for the disc to move without the wheel moving too - as the studs go through the wheel and then through the disc. so the fact you can rotate the "disc" must be due to something else.

have you checked the condition of the disc? maybe the outer ring around the edge of the disc has sheared off? a bit unlikely though!

the wheel clamps against the disc and the studs go through it - it just doesn't make sense that you can shake the disc

unless, of course - your wheel bolts are too long, and in fact your wheel is still loose even though you've tightened the bolts up.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:24 pm
by Tris
Are you using the standard bolts to hold the new wheels on :?:

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:00 am
by david burton
seriously - if you can move the disc when the bolts are tight, then don't drive it - something on the WHOLE unit might be loose - your wheel might come off and the hub too!

I'd be quite worried mate. needs a good looking at!