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is it better than mer polish?
jon

Its The best

Unfortunately Zymol won't do discounts for Group Buys any more...

The wax is about 60 quid for a smallish tub (but it should last you well over a year).

You'll also need some sort of non-silicone polish (such as Zymol HD Clense or 3M Imperial Hand Glaze) for use before the wax...

It's hardcore stuff... Not for the casual car owner! This stuff is for people who **LOVE** their cars!

Available from www.zymol.co.uk ... I wouldn't go for the starter kit to be honest...

Here's your shopping list if you want a VERY shiny car:


Bucket (Josh recommends a Swissol Flat-Pack Bucket from John)

Sponge (Josh recommends the Grey one with Microfibre backing from Halfords)

Shampoo (Josh recommends Zymol Shampoo from Halfords)

Blade (Josh recommends Turtle Wax Blade from Halfords)

Chamois (Josh recommends a Pittards Large Chamois from Halfords)

Claybar (Josh recommends a 3M Perfect It III Cleaner Clay available from Josh!)

Compound (Josh recommends 3M Pefect It III Fine Compound available from Josh!)

Glaze (Josh recommends 3M Imperial Hand Glaze available from Josh!)

Wax (Josh recommends Zymol Titanium Wax available from www.zymol.co.uk)

Cloths (Josh recommends Autoglym Perfect Polishing Cloths for the Compound and Glaze - available from Halfords, and a Zymol Microfibre Cloth for buffing the Zymol Wax)

Infact, I'm going to put that Shopping List as a sticky in the Car Care Section!

hehe nice one

Josh_PoloGTi wrote:It's hardcore stuff... Not for the casual car owner! This stuff is for people who **LOVE** their cars!

LOVE is probably the right word... when you start rubbing your hands together and start intimately stroking your car with your bare hands!... beware your neighbours might start giving you funny looks ... best to do it in the garage...

Josh_PoloGTi wrote:Sponge (Josh recommends the Grey one with Microfibre backing from Halfords)

That sponge is good, however the backing bit came off after the first wash on the last two I used .


I'm pretty new to Zymol but the stuff I've used all seems to be top quality, smells lovely, but pricey. Btw... their spray on wheel gel and wheel coat combo are good. So is the leather cleaner and conditioner combo.

If you're on a budget tho (or you're not so hardcore) you could try the 2-step Zymol Auto Wash and Cleaner Wax (both avaliable at Halfords).

Regards.

Blimey Josh thats a long list of kit...

I'm on the old Autoglym range:

Bodywork shampoo conditioner

Supreme polish (not available in t' shops )

Car glass polish

Tyre dressing

All available from my sister's bloke 'cos he's an autoglym agent/reseller/dealer/whatever. I'm dead chuffed with the results of the supreme polish, comes up really deep and shiny. But I'm willing to give zymol a try, I've heard 'nout but good things from everyone who has used it!

ouch - that's a lot of cash. I'm going to try the meguiars range next. Using autoglym at the mo but fancy a change...

How badly am I wrecking the car with this combo then?

* Ancient 2-gallon brown plastic bucket (bizarrely, with the "mothercare" logo stamped on it)
* Some old sponge that was in the bucket. Probably bought by the lady of the house - there used to be a nice, squishy "real" sponge in there, but now it's changed to a slightly less desirable synthetic thing (off to the shops!)
* Hozelock hose with an adjustable-spray head and a clicky thing that shuts the water off - letting you build up a couple seconds of extra pressure for stubborn bird-crap..
* This synthetic-bristled (medium hardness) brush thing that looks like it used to =screw= onto the end of some obsolete hose system. It's been in the house ever since I can remember. Like, my dad used to wash his mk2 cavalier turbo with it when I was 5 It's great for wheels but is it a paint killer?
* This mysterious bottle of generic car shampoo that I dunno where it came from. Most the stuff on the label is in german (autowash hochglanz or summat ), and it's always sticky on the outside even though it's never been spilt. Also seems to refill itself - been hanging around for years like the brush. All the same, 2 capfuls in a bucket of warm water seems to do a sterling job of removing 99% of dirt and leaving a very basic shine.
* Spare wiper blade for squeegeeing, though I forgot about it last time (so the shammying took forever)
* Small halfords non-synthetic chamois. Deffo not big enough, this thing has proved only to be suitable for bicycles
* no wax Though there is a dusty, half-full bottle of Mer (along with Triplewax, and various generic products) I discovered in the garage last week. Does it keep well for long periods?

no wonder my finish is knackered... but how much would it cost to upgrade all that?

The Brush on the paint isn't such a good idea. Thats why a few people I have spoken to recommend avoiding car washes, due to the brushes leaving scratches in the paint work. My step dads cavavlier has some visible scratches still from where the first owner took it to the car wash. Its taken a lot of polish to remove most of the other scratches.

Karl.

Karl_CLCoupe wrote:The Brush on the paint isn't such a good idea. Thats why a few people I have spoken to recommend avoiding car washes, due to the brushes leaving scratches in the paint work. My step dads cavavlier has some visible scratches still from where the first owner took it to the car wash. Its taken a lot of polish to remove most of the other scratches.

Karl.

Yeah, those car washes are dangerous! I use a big-ass sponge on my car. And an old knackered sponge on the alloys cos it gets in the corners better than the brush I was using before spesh around the wheel bolts... I bought an Autoglym wheel brush but its not as quick to use as the sponge!

Finally whilst on the subject of cleaning wheels, has anyone tried Muc-Off? I'm seriously considering getting some ordered from the website and would appreciate any feedback?

Cheers

urk ok then!
i'll relegate the brush to the wheels (silver-sprayed steels) and get hold of a softer sponge for the body...

god knows how much damage has been done already though

It seems pretty good, but I'm always put off by specialist wheel cleaners, as some of the stuff they contain, gets me wondering how your wheels don't end up bare metal. Though it does say its non caustic, and doesn't contain acids, but it is alkaline, so has got to have some corrosive effects, even if they are only small. I would probably say use the Silica wheel stuff as well, as that will protect the wheels finish, as like T-cut on bodywork, I'm sure these wheel cleaners remove paint.

Karl.

I always just use a weak mixture of car wash on the wheels. never risk the specialist stuff - for all the above reasons!

As a positive thing, I think the brush wash has shown up how poor the spraying on the new door is - looks like i've gone thru to the existing metallic sky blue paint in a few places in just one wash

behold the power of washing

Josh is right about Zymol not doing any GB discounts any more, probably because the UK concessionairre keeps changing....

I can sort people out with a discount on the SWISSOL products, very similar to Zymol, but the waxes are easier to use.

Discount is available all the time, and an extra GB discount 'could' be arranged if there were enough people interested to warrant it.

Have a look at www.swissol.co.uk for specific product info and then get back to me if anyone is interested in taking up the offer.

The equivelent wax to Zymol Titanium is Swissol Saphir, but there are others available as well.

Worth a thought!

John.