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Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:18 pm
by chrispy.
Where'd you get them from? Look nice!


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Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:52 pm
by Doc_House
Horizon LED - H7' type 1 kit just gone for a drive down the land and have been amazed by the clarity and brightness compared to the Osram Night Breaker like difference between night and day

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:34 pm
by TheFrog
Doc_House wrote:Horizon LED - H7' type 1 kit just gone for a drive down the land and have been amazed by the clarity and brightness compared to the Osram Night Breaker like difference between night and day
Have you fitted an led kit to your Polo? Linky?

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:59 pm
by Tooks
TheFrog wrote:
Doc_House wrote:Horizon LED - H7' type 1 kit just gone for a drive down the land and have been amazed by the clarity and brightness compared to the Osram Night Breaker like difference between night and day
Have you fitted an led kit to your Polo? Linky?
I'm assuming these?

http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/cree-leds/ ... -headlight

I'd like to see the light pattern on the road.

I'm also assuming they're not CE marked.

Looks like the next thing that will be burning our retinas anyway!! :lol:

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:38 pm
by chrispy.
Nice! Thanks!!


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Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:18 am
by Mart!n-GTI-DK
Doc_House wrote:Cree H7 LEDs Kit :-) Very good kit but a f###ing bastard to fit when youv'e got fat fingers.
You do know that you just unplug the headlight, remove two screws and take out the headlight to change bulbs right? :wink:

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(only remove screws marked 2 in this picture)

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:32 am
by Jamesbluegt
I'm after some put white fog lights, headlights and drls with out spending a rediculous amount of money but can't be worse road coverage if they are led can anyone point me in the right direction ?


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Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:44 am
by Doc_House
The beam pattern is as good as the H7's (will post pictures later) the real difference is the length and clarity of the light at night. Next door has a Range Rover 2015 (Chap works at the factory) and that lights up the whole street when it arrives. He was amazed at how good they are. The H7's in the polo give off an almost identical light. Went for a drive last night and no issues to report even went in the car in front to see if they did dazzle other drivers and the glare was no worse than a car with xenons, it was more noticeable that the white light was instantly highlighting signs and reflective surfaces.

Only pain in the arse moment is the fact the standard retaining clips do not work with these due to the cooling units, I fashioned a spring clip out of some thick steel wire and bolted it into the existing torque screw mounts.

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:46 am
by Doc_House
Mart!n-GTI-DK wrote:
Doc_House wrote:Cree H7 LEDs Kit :-) Very good kit but a f###ing bastard to fit when youv'e got fat fingers.
You do know that you just unplug the headlight, remove two screws and take out the headlight to change bulbs right? :wink:

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(only remove screws marked 2 in this picture)
Yep, but try getting the H7 + cooling and retaining clip into the hole... that's where it's tight..

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:47 am
by Doc_House
TheFrog wrote:
Doc_House wrote:Horizon LED - H7' type 1 kit just gone for a drive down the land and have been amazed by the clarity and brightness compared to the Osram Night Breaker like difference between night and day
Have you fitted an led kit to your Polo? Linky?

http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/cree-leds/ ... -headlight

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:00 pm
by Tooks
Doc_House wrote:The beam pattern is as good as the H7's (will post pictures later) the real difference is the length and clarity of the light at night. Next door has a Range Rover 2015 (Chap works at the factory) and that lights up the whole street when it arrives. He was amazed at how good they are. The H7's in the polo give off an almost identical light. Went for a drive last night and no issues to report even went in the car in front to see if they did dazzle other drivers and the glare was no worse than a car with xenons, it was more noticeable that the white light was instantly highlighting signs and reflective surfaces.

Only pain in the arse moment is the fact the standard retaining clips do not work with these due to the cooling units, I fashioned a spring clip out of some thick steel wire and bolted it into the existing torque screw mounts.
If you're seeing the lights lighting up road signs etc as you describe, the only way that is being done is via the beam scattering, so you will in some shape or form be dazzling other drivers. All car headlights scatter their beam to places it shouldn't go, but the problem is that when you increase the lumens beyond that which the headlight was designed for, the light scatter can get worse as that light that is 'escaping' is a lot brighter than would be emitted from the halogen bulb.

Best thing would be to take it to an MOT station or similar, and get the headlight aim checked. It will also show if too much light is being scattered.

Sorry to sound like a curmudgeon, but another thing to consider is that IiF your vehicle was involved in a serious death or injury collission, the chances are it would be taken away and examined very closely. Anything non standard on the car could be used against you in a court, and if that collission was at night, well you can imagine which way it might go...

I know it's the same as HiD kits etc, but the police are getting more clued up on this stuff all the time.

I used to make Cree LED lighting for boats/yachts, and a critical part of a long life for the LED is the cooling. Those metal braid cooling fins at the back look like an interesting solution. Time will tell if they last as long as claimed. What sort of warranty comes with them?

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:18 pm
by TheFrog
Thanks. Reassuring that they are made by Philips, but they look kind of weird :)
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:35 pm
by Dink
they use philips LED chips but are clearly not made by philips.

also looking at the philips site they are probably nearer 2000 lumens than the quoted 2500.

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:01 pm
by Doc_House
Tooks wrote:
Doc_House wrote:The beam pattern is as good as the H7's (will post pictures later) the real difference is the length and clarity of the light at night. Next door has a Range Rover 2015 (Chap works at the factory) and that lights up the whole street when it arrives. He was amazed at how good they are. The H7's in the polo give off an almost identical light. Went for a drive last night and no issues to report even went in the car in front to see if they did dazzle other drivers and the glare was no worse than a car with xenons, it was more noticeable that the white light was instantly highlighting signs and reflective surfaces.

Only pain in the arse moment is the fact the standard retaining clips do not work with these due to the cooling units, I fashioned a spring clip out of some thick steel wire and bolted it into the existing torque screw mounts.
If you're seeing the lights lighting up road signs etc as you describe, the only way that is being done is via the beam scattering, so you will in some shape or form be dazzling other drivers. All car headlights scatter their beam to places it shouldn't go, but the problem is that when you increase the lumens beyond that which the headlight was designed for, the light scatter can get worse as that light that is 'escaping' is a lot brighter than would be emitted from the halogen bulb.

Best thing would be to take it to an MOT station or similar, and get the headlight aim checked. It will also show if too much light is being scattered.

Sorry to sound like a curmudgeon, but another thing to consider is that IiF your vehicle was involved in a serious death or injury collission, the chances are it would be taken away and examined very closely. Anything non standard on the car could be used against you in a court, and if that collission was at night, well you can imagine which way it might go...

I know it's the same as HiD kits etc, but the police are getting more clued up on this stuff all the time.

I used to make Cree LED lighting for boats/yachts, and a critical part of a long life for the LED is the cooling. Those metal braid cooling fins at the back look like an interesting solution. Time will tell if they last as long as claimed. What sort of warranty comes with them?
The lights was on full beam when it lit up the road signs... Believe me I prefer to play safe as well
Took it to Skoda garage at the end of our road and and they checked the beam pattern passed with flying colours.
The light isn't being scattered but the range is noticeably longer, the MOT at skoda confirmed this and reckoned it was comparable to Xenon equipped cars.

The cooling is interesting not sure if it'll be effective but it's similar to heat sinks used on small form factor PC's and they work ok. Only time will tell.

Re: Anyone tried a full LED headlight conversion?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:54 pm
by chrispy.
See if you can get some pictures up soon :) would be great to see what its like from a POV


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