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Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:41 pm
by ciclo

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:35 am
by k31208
Oh, I know this.
I will post the result after the auto scan and the content of channel 46.

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:03 am
by Maarten
Try to use English, I'm sure there will be little to no forum members who can read this

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:30 pm
by ciclo
Good idea, however, it is easy to understand the numbers/data from any autoscan in any language.

On this side of the planet when something is not understood at all, it is often said that what one is trying to understand sounds like Chinese to one. :lol:

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:43 am
by k31208
I checked 4 windows wire and fined it without the LIN connection.
I think I can follow the wiring diagram to add wire to it. (replace the motor & switch(J386(E512)/J387(E107)/J388(E52)/J389(E54))

I have some question
1.The switch(E512) is divided into 10-pin(thin) & 12-pin (thick).(Mine is thickpin. )
What's the difference in wiring?
The E512 wiring diagram is 10-pin; is there 12-pin?

2. The motor (J386~J389) is 14-pin total(Attached photos), why the wiring diagram shows that it is 16-pin.

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:18 am
by ciclo
It's necessary to have the 6R wiring diagrams for the Chinese market so we can answer your questions and determine if this modification is possible for 6R WRMs intended for the Chinese market (14 pin)
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The European 6R wiring diagrams I posted aren't applicable to your Polo. A comparison isn't possible due to the obvious incompatibility of parts (WRMs 16pin).

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 3:30 pm
by k31208
I replaced the motor, driver switch and added LINE wire according to the wiring diagram. (VCD was already done)

Now I have 1 problem
When the driver's LINE is connected, the other 3 windows cannot be controlled and the multi-function steering wheel cannot be used.

When the driver's LINE is removed, everything else is normal.

Is there a problem with the connection point? Or anything else that needs to be done?

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 6:46 pm
by ciclo
Obviously, the electronics aren't compatible.

A quick explanation: your original WRM 6Rs are similar to the European POLO 9N3...
to put it another way, POLO 6R China vs POLO 6R Europe: it's like comparing a POLO Jin QV with a POLO Jin Qin as far as WRMs are concerned.
(I don't know if I explained it well)🤷‍♂️

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 1:52 am
by k31208
Hi Ciclo, thanks for your explanation.
you are right, I replaced the original motor and it is working.
I think it is not suitable for made in China.


another question
how can I achieve this?

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 2:29 am
by sejuani
ciclo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:25 pm Hi, I think your POLO is a 6R.
For what you intend to do you should study the wiring diagrams, it is a very simple task if you are comfortable with wiring.
There are notable differences in the equipment depending on where the 6Rs were sold, so it is advisable to have the appropriate diagrams. 6R Taiwan 'vs' 6R Europe (for example).
In Taiwan, many people cannot distinguish between 6R and 6C, so most people refer to it as 6C.

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 2:39 am
by ciclo
Yes, the 6R family goes until 2022 (AFAIK) depending on the place of manufacture (2010-2014 Europe), and due to the similarities in appearance it is logical to mistake the PLATFORM.
- 6R --> belongs to the platform called PQ25.
- 6C --> belongs to the platform called PQ26.
The main difference between these platforms is the applied electronics.

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 3:04 am
by ciclo
k31208 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 1:52 am Hi Ciclo, thanks for your explanation.
you are right, I replaced the original motor and it is working.
I think it is not suitable for made in China.


another question
how can I achieve this?
As I believe I already mentioned, to get the 'GRA_High' setting on the MFA+ ​​you need to modify the ECU's EEPROM.
You need a tool that can read and write the EEPROM of your car's engine unit, to extract the file, modify it, and upload the modified file again.
You need to know the Byte (offset) and the specific new HEX value that activates the GRA_High setting in your ECU.
I know this value for some ECU but not for yours (1.4 MPI).🤷‍♂️


For your question via PM about the cruise control emulator (CCE).
Note: I don't answer technical questions via PM, please use the forum, thank you!
The CCE was developed by Slavik (MaDwArLoCk 🧙‍♂️) and can be installed on any PQ25 with any type of vw steering wheel or buttons of your choice.
Requirements:
- CCS required.

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 4:30 am
by sejuani
ciclo wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:04 am
As I believe I already mentioned, to get the 'GRA_High' setting on the MFA+ ​​you need to modify the ECU's EEPROM.
You need a tool that can read and write the EEPROM of your car's engine unit, to extract the file, modify it, and upload the modified file again.
You need to know the Byte (offset) and the specific new HEX value that activates the GRA_High setting in your ECU.
I know this value for some ECU but not for yours (1.4 MPI).🤷‍♂️


For your question via PM about the cruise control emulator (CCE).
Note: I don't answer technical questions via PM, please use the forum, thank you!
The CCE was developed by Slavik (MaDwArLoCk 🧙‍♂️) and can be installed on any PQ25 with any type of vw steering wheel or buttons of your choice.
Requirements:
- CCS required.
Regarding CCE, I have asked Slavik (MaDwArLoCk), and our(me and k31208) ECUs are all 03C 906 014 FR (produced by Magneti Marelli), so we are currently unable to enable GRA-High.

Re: 2016 POLO 6c Window switches

Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 4:44 am
by ciclo
Thanks for confirming.

For these cases (1.4, 1.6, TDI ...?), I believe, though I'm not sure, that an emulator was also created to display the GRA_High on the IC.
The Russian forum Drive2.ru can provide more information about this.