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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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ciclo wrote:Please post a full Autoscan. (to check with Elsawin the diagrams)

:arrow: You need to install the Wiring1 and Wiring2 for BCM Max. See and read the entire post and images (BCM Max).

The problem is in how the signal is sent from T17/16 to T73a/45 with your original installation. You need to do this to fix the problem of Switches and Instruments lights and other lights

Ok I have old autoscan before replace BCM but this is no problem right ? tooday when back from work I make new autoscan.
Can you tell me please number of pins to make rewire BCM to max ?

Best regards Chriss

Code: Select all

Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZxxxxxx   Mileage: 214410km-133228miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 G    HW: 03L 906 023 D
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H13 5687  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114016002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023G 001006
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH.rod
   VCID: 2ABED2A745F0B142BB9A87-807F

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AF    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0005  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210248E3417100BB842912E882D200421300
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 00000
   VCID: 02EE5A079D008502D32A4F-8057

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 B    HW: 6R0 907 044 B
   Component: Climatronic   H08 0305  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 328ECAC76D20F18203CA7F-8067

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 D
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0256  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0147 081104191
   Coding: 3CB02BBF48E32400933006C07EAB0ED0F08041FF60840040200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 65108 001 10485
   VCID: 4564811BCCAE763AB688AC-8011

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 180310 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0005F3

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R    HW: 6R0 959 801 R  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0903 
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T    HW: 6R0 959 802 T  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0902 
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F    HW: 6R0 959 811 F
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 0902 
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F    HW: 6R0 959 812 F
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 0902 
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475     HW: 6R0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H07 0008  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 71391006832409
   Coding: 100001
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01006
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 7B1027E3FAEAF8CA90EC1A-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag00G H08 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX000FFGC
   Coding: 003047
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_SE25.rod
   VCID: 4A7EB227E5B091425BDA67-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572SRB40000B418DA05

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582SRB40000B150DACB

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB40696CSQ87GTF

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405T6DUG6G0B1

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 D    HW: 6R0 920 861 D
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0207  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E00
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 3686F6D78148E5A22F2203-8063

1 Fault Found:
12583424 - Powertrain Databus 
          U0002 00 [008] - No Communications
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 229
                    Mileage: 213614 km
                    Date: 2016.04.30
                    Time: 16:50:47


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0256  
   Revision: BF046001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 65108 001 10485
   VCID: 700A00CFA3AC8392355E85-8025

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0207  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03006
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 6A3E12A7857071427B1AC7-803F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F88C3B37E12486A6CE45E-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 AA    HW: 5M0 035 186 AA
   Component: Radio RCD310  016 0049  
   Revision: 01000000    Serial number: VWZ1Z2K7015701
   Coding: 0500040002
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 6B3017A38A8A604A000CCA-803F

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 219
                    Mileage: 214264 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.10.03
                    Time: 18:48:40
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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You also need to install the wire for reversing light and electrical bridge in J331 relay, and rewiring your fog lights through SB54 fuse as explained in the link - FAQ-

Here you have all info you need: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=42713&p=477216#p466570 , viewtopic.php?f=62&t=67799#p505742
(compare images to select the terminals)

It is the only way to run all lights correctly (without exception :wink:) when a BCM Max is installed in 6R non BlueMotion (EU).
For all 6R non Bluemotion (EU). Tested.

DRLs.
Front Parking/Side lights.
Interior lights.
Switches and Instruments lights.
License plate lights. (OEM Leds tech recomended)
Reverse light.
Rear fog light.

Break lights.
Tail lights.
Turn signals.
Cornering lights.
High beam (+ flashes).
Low beam.
Front foglights.


It is not necessary you post another autoscan. (Model Year A, manual gearbox, CAYC, etc...)

Later you can install the leveling system, and the washer system.

Warning (to others): If you have 6R Model Year 'A' with different wires in light switch connector that shown RekinPoznan in above pics and you want to do this, contact me. :)
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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benzinkopf wrote:Hi guys. Ciclo, any luck on ur study how they did the rainclosing in polo?
To test for those who like to play with binaries. Rain closing.

Rain Light Sensor

1K0 955 559 AH
Coding: 06302D

or

5K7 955 559 B
Coding: 0714DD


With the same BCM

- With this BCM coding it not works.
22904ABF48E1240093380E00FE8B16F02EC8614F60862055220000000000

- With this BCM coding it works.
22904ABF48E1240093380E007ECB16F000C8614F60842055220000000000

:shock: :?:

If someone is lucky, please post a full scan of BCM. Thanks.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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So to test

Windows open
Car locked
Pour water on rls?
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iichel wrote:So to test

Windows open
Car locked
Pour water on rls?
And wait at least 10-15 second after car locking :!: :)
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Hi ciclo, i have recieved the resistors for rear led turn light . Where i connect it?

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Bachecco wrote:Hi ciclo, i have recieved the resistors for rear led turn light . Where i connect it?
Image LOL!

Taillights connector:

Left
T6/3 White/Black wire
Right
T6/4 Green/Black wire
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Thank you for the picture. you are always very helpful :)


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ciclo wrote:You also need to install the wire for reversing light and electrical bridge in J331 relay, and rewiring your fog lights through SB54 fuse as explained in the link - FAQ-

Here you have all info you need: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=42713&p=477216#p466570 , viewtopic.php?f=62&t=67799#p505742
(compare images to select the terminals)

It is the only way to run all lights correctly (without exception :wink:) when a BCM Max is installed in 6R non BlueMotion (EU).
For all 6R non Bluemotion (EU). Tested.

DRLs.
Front Parking/Side lights.
Interior lights.
Switches and Instruments lights.
License plate lights. (OEM Leds tech recomended)
Reverse light.
Rear fog light.

Break lights.
Tail lights.
Turn signals.
Cornering lights.
High beam (+ flashes).
Low beam.
Front foglights.


It is not necessary you post another autoscan. (Model Year A, manual gearbox, CAYC, etc...)

Later you can install the leveling system, and the washer system.

Warning (to others): If you have 6R Model Year 'A' with different wires in light switch connector that shown RekinPoznan in above pics and you want to do this, contact me. :)

Thanks for replay

Working now to make rewire the instalation (in progress) ;)
Is neccesary to make new cable to reverse light ? now working fine after BCM replace... mayby after bridge J331 going down this lamp ?
Is possible to use old reverse light cable ? now going from BCM to rear reverse lamp why needed new ?

Best regards and thanks for help Chriss
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firegrafik wrote: And wait at least 10-15 second after car locking :!: :)
And the wiper stalk? Something to consider?
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RekinPoznan wrote: Thanks for replay

Working now to make rewire the instalation (in progress) ;)
Is neccesary to make new cable to reverse light ? now working fine after BCM replace... mayby after bridge J331 going down this lamp ?
Is possible to use old reverse light cable ? now going from BCM to rear reverse lamp why needed new ?

Best regards and thanks for help Chriss
Hi Chriss, my only intention is to inform.

Reverse light:
Proper installation is as explained in the links, for me it is very useful (and safe) to have the diagnosis of reverse light through the BCM. I know that not matter to other people, but you can be in a terrible situation if other cars on the road don't know that you are in reverse gear and YOU don't know that your reverse light no works.
Remember that during the day you do not know if your reverse light is turning ON.

Similar things happen with the other lights...

The price of a wire are few euros, pounds, etc..., one or more lives are priceless ... I do not want argue about this because only there is one truth. You can see the myriad of terrible accidents that are displayed in the Youtube videos.

Take this opportunity (installation) to increase the security of your car... The car lights are TO SEE and BE SEEN.

In your coding from 7H0 BCM you have disabled this diagnosis. (it is the reason to work without faults)

Logically you can not use the same wire which is present in your car. This wire in your 6R supplies power to the reverse light and also informs to the BCM about the reverse switch, but it is not for reverse light diagnosis.

If you do not need or do not want to install this new wire, not install it.

The Electric Bridge inserted into J331 relay adapter (relay removed forever) is mandatory for power supply of the low beam through BCM. It is not related with reverse light.

In any case it is my wish that you make a right installation,... I need to know that someone (not be workshop :lol: :wink: ) is able to do this installation almost without help.
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Bachecco wrote:Thank you for the picture. you are always very helpful :)
Note the heat from resistance for placement. :wink:
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ciclo wrote:
RekinPoznan wrote: Thanks for replay

Working now to make rewire the instalation (in progress) ;)
Is neccesary to make new cable to reverse light ? now working fine after BCM replace... mayby after bridge J331 going down this lamp ?
Is possible to use old reverse light cable ? now going from BCM to rear reverse lamp why needed new ?

Best regards and thanks for help Chriss
Hi Chriss, my only intention is to inform.

Reverse light:
Proper installation is as explained in the links, for me it is very useful (and safe) to have the diagnosis of reverse light through the BCM. I know that not matter to other people, but you can be in a terrible situation if other cars on the road don't know that you are in reverse gear and YOU don't know that your reverse light no works.
Remember that during the day you do not know if your reverse light is turning ON.

Similar things happen with the other lights...

The price of a wire are few euros, pounds, etc..., one or more lives are priceless ... I do not want argue about this because only there is one truth. You can see the myriad of terrible accidents that are displayed in the Youtube videos.

Take this opportunity (installation) to increase the security of your car... The car lights are TO SEE and BE SEEN.

In your coding from 7H0 BCM you have disabled this diagnosis. (it is the reason to work without faults)

Logically you can not use the same wire which is present in your car. This wire in your 6R supplies power to the reverse light and also informs to the BCM about the reverse switch, but it is not for reverse light diagnosis.

If you do not need or do not want to install this new wire, not install it.

The Electric Bridge inserted into J331 relay adapter (relay removed forever) is mandatory for power supply of the low beam through BCM. It is not related with reverse light.

In any case it is my wish that you make a right installation,... I need to know that someone (not be workshop :lol: :wink: ) is able to do this installation almost without help.

Thanks for replay.
I make this wire for reverse light you have right.
Waiting for the pins, and a few days I will have a revamped installation, cables module-range Xenon I have at the target site, the module also'm just waiting for the pins.
regards Chriss
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what do you guys think about retrofitting curtain airbags? :roll:

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Hmmm fiddling with airbags is something I'd be really worried about. You'd need new side airbags in the front seats too, as the standard ones have a combined head/thorax airbag that goes up to the roof.
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