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Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:55 pm
by ciclo
How to install 7E0937090C BCM Max in 2014 Vento RHD IND halogen headlights (vento2013)

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Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:11 am
by ciclo
Bixenon headlights with additional lamp for Static cornering lights:
- the foglights electric installation is without BCM control, through the fuse 54.
(light switch --->fuse 54--->foglights)

Therefore, your current electrical installation is correct if you install Bixenon headlights.


LED headlights don't have additional lamps:
- the electric installation of the fog lamps must be controlled by the BCM, in this case the Static cornering lights function is carried out by the fog lamps, so that the fog lamps have two functions, foglights and Static Cornering Lights. BCM coding.
(light switch--->signal wire to BCM---BCM fed--->a supply wire to each foglight)

In your case it would be necessary to make a new electrical installation for the fog lamps if you install LED headlights. Link that I posted here in your topic (ebay.de).


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To your question by email:
Which of them would I install if that were the case?

I would install the Bixenon headlights.
- due to its ease to make the electrical installation (avoiding the new foglights electrical installation), BCM-compatibility you bought, maintenance, aesthetics and functionality.

My opinion always is irrelevant. :lol:

Either one is good to fulfill its purpose.

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:15 am
by iichel
in terms of light production, LED and bi-xenon are not very different.
ciclo wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:11 am LED headlights don't have additional lamps:
- the electric installation of the fog lamps must be controlled by the BCM, in this case the Static cornering lights function is carried out by the fog lamps, so that the fog lamps have two functions, foglights and Static Cornering Lights. BCM coding.
(light switch--->signal wire to BCM---BCM fed--->a supply wire to each foglight)

In your case it would be necessary to make a new electrical installation for the fog lamps if you install LED headlights. Link that I posted here in your topic (ebay.de).
This installation of wires from T73b/9 and /10 and feed to the BCM from SB57 will also apply to bi-xenon headlights for the static cornering in the headlight, no?

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:22 am
by vento2013
Thank you Ciclo n iichel for inputs.. :D

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:33 am
by ciclo
iichel wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:15 am in terms of light production, LED and bi-xenon are not very different.
ciclo wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:11 am LED headlights don't have additional lamps:
- the electric installation of the fog lamps must be controlled by the BCM, in this case the Static cornering lights function is carried out by the fog lamps, so that the fog lamps have two functions, foglights and Static Cornering Lights. BCM coding.
(light switch--->signal wire to BCM---BCM fed--->a supply wire to each foglight)

In your case it would be necessary to make a new electrical installation for the fog lamps if you install LED headlights. Link that I posted here in your topic (ebay.de).
This installation of wires from T73b/9 and /10 and feed to the BCM from SB57 will also apply to bi-xenon headlights for the static cornering in the headlight, no?
Yes, and?...

However in the Vento IND is not the fuse 57 is the 49.
In this case, for Vento of vento2013 we use fuse 55 because the fuse 49 has already been used for folding mirrors. :lol:

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:35 am
by ciclo
vento2013 wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:22 am Thank you Ciclo n iichel for inputs.. :D
What will be your choice?... :)

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:40 am
by vento2013
ciclo wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:35 am What will be your choice?... :)
Bi-Xenon? :?

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:44 am
by ciclo
hahaha! ... choose which one you choose will be a good choice.

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:52 am
by vento2013
LED headlights looks cool, that too on Black. (iichel's 6C!)

Easy to install is Bi-Xenon with my current wiring, BCM etc. I liked them too, so at first i bought Bi-Xenon.

Will decide while plugging in wiring. :)

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:55 am
by iichel
remember, there is no wrong answer to the question, so think about it.
Just some tips for the consideration:
- Will your current BCM 7E0 937 090 C support LED headlights? Not all do.
- How is the availability of the RHD LED headlights where you live in India?
- What looks do you prefer? What do you like best with the 6C bumper?
- Costs?

Some technical aspects could be taken into account to.
The bi-xenon headlights have the static cornering light in the headlight.
etc...

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:03 am
by ciclo
iichel wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:55 am remember, there is no wrong answer to the question, so think about it.
Just some tips for the consideration:
- Will your current BCM 7E0 937 090 C support LED headlights? Not all do.
- How is the availability of the RHD LED headlights where you live in India?
From factory (currently):

- Russia --- Polo Sedan --- Bixenon headlights.
- India --- Vento --- LED headlights.

Polo Sedan = Vento

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:06 am
by vento2013
ciclo wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:03 am

From factory (currently):

- Russia --- Polo Sedan --- Bixenon headlights.
- India --- Vento --- LED headlights. with 7E0937089A BCM and RLS is present in Vento but no Auto Light

Polo Sedan = Vento

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:20 pm
by vento2013
iichel wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:55 am remember, there is no wrong answer to the question, so think about it.
TRUE will keep in mind.

- Will your current BCM 7E0 937 090 C support LED headlights? Not all do. YES
- How is the availability of the RHD LED headlights where you live in India?Its available and I have already purchased
- What looks do you prefer? What do you like best with the 6C bumper? Now looks are way better, Comparing with original bumper, 6C fog lamp is best, even for cornering function
- Costs? :| Already purchased both types of headlight. Have to sell which I don't install.

Some technical aspects could be taken into account to.
The bi-xenon headlights have the static cornering light in the headlight.
etc...
Will keep in mind everything Thanks for suggestion iichel. :)

Re: Retrofitting Bi-Xenon & BCM Max Adaption+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:25 pm
by ciclo
I've read your email. Thanks for inform me. :wink:

We'll wait for that BCM...

Re: Retrofitting LED headlights & BCM Max Adaptation+Auto Headlight with CH/LH on 2013 6R

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:54 pm
by vento2013
Hello Fernando,

I am still waiting for BCM for LED headlights. Meanwhile last weekend one of my friend Nikhil(he is also member of uk-polos) visited my home, he has very good knowledge on 6R Polo wiring, he saw all parts I have acquired, told him I will install LED headlights and waiting for specific BCM for LED headlights, Firegrafik Friend from Russia will send and it will reach in another 15-20 days. Waiting for parts kills. :(
Then he insisted me, will do adaptation of BCM Max 7E0937090C(Bi Xenon lights) for existing Halogen dual beam lights, connect auto headlight wires, route all necessary wiring for DRL, Fog, reverse light and license plate light, keep everything ready when you get BCM for LED just swap BCM, Crimp T14 connector and install LED headlights. Some errors will come up(Like DRL wires not connected) but we can leave with it for some days I too liked his idea; because of 2 things half of work will be finished and most important I will get his help for installation. 
Apart from above installation, I have also planned for retrofitting cruise control and G85 (Steering angle sensor) for cornering light, these also will be finished.

I will cut short installation process because I am poor in writing and not taken any pictures of installation because we did installation in basement parking with poor light. (We used emergency light n torch for light).

After adaptation of BCM Max on halogen lights, we installed new stalk with cruise control button, steering angle sensor and connected all wires for the same. Connected battery, did necessary coding using vcds. Scanned for errors except DRL not connected everything was fine, worked perfectly.

After this contacted Firegrafik and confirmed with my present BCM 7E0937090C which is meant for Bi Xenon headlights, if I use this for LED headlights only parking light won’t work. Everything else DRL, high beam, low beam will work. So itch of installing it and seeing started, so thought will leave without parking light till new BCM arrives, crimped n connected T14 connector and installed LED headlights. 

Now everything is working. Except parking light when headlight is on. Here I am attaching scan report. Please check coding. I used smg_shardul’s topic for coding. Fog lamp was not getting on, because coding is for Bi-Xenon, made small change in coding for that. Now fog is working. Please check coding and guide any changes.

Thank you very much for providing all the help.

will add more clear images soon.

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Monday,15,May,2018,20:46:17:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910

Workshop Code: 648 00788 000255

VIN: WVWJ13601ET024078   License Plate:KA47 M****



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Chassis Type: 60 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: WVWJ13601ET024078   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CLNA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 NT    HW: 03L 907 425 B
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H33 9971  
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00110016032500080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023NT 003012
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 8501F79F04D47D36275-80D0

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023NT" (VN75) 
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BF    HW: 6R0 907 379 AQ
   Component: ABS9.0 front  H01 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 60DD2F63212504C40614F470845920020000
   Shop #: WSC 57830 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH 003017
   ROD: EV_Brake1ABS90BOSCH_VW25.rod
   VCID: 8305E9870AE04306091-80D6

No fault code found.

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Address Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 L    HW: 6R0 907 044 L
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0612  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 3C76B954BFBF43A696-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 320170423
   Coding: 3A904BBF48E10200013807916CCB96905A88676F608D30C1200000030000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2B55E1274AF0EB46111-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C
   Component: RLS 230118 04  47  0106 
   Coding: 008F77

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AL    HW: 6R0 959 802 AL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AH    HW: 6R0 959 801 AH
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442     HW: 6C0 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Coding: 240000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47361317300143
   Coding: 108002
   Shop #: WSC 00793 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3E73D873A1826EEEA6F-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW00M0RR+
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW24.rod
   VCID: 4999BBAFE84CD95603D-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 862     HW: 6RF 920 862 
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0214  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A00
   Shop #: WSC 13202 938 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE35.rod
   VCID: 09197BAFA8CC9956C3D-805C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 102300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: E8DFDE2B1B86805EBC3-80BD

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0214  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod
   VCID: EADBA4230D8AB24EAA7-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels: 6Rx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 6RF 909 144 K    HW: 6RF 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ECU       H44 0401  
   Coding: 0000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSNSK 005005
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSNSK.rod
   VCID: 54A79ADB3F0E94BE60B-8001

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         534 5314  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6267388
   Coding: 16000440040005
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 4683B093F152362EEEF-8013

No fault code found.

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