6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Hi,
Today I have installed on my 2010 1.6CRTDI polo a CCS kit. Used VCDS to code in aaaaand not working. Triple checked every connection from lever to BCM and the codes in ECU and BCM as well.
The buttons on the lever works fine I have checked it with a digital multimeter.
Checked the buttons with VCDS in measuring blocks on address 09. Every button work properly exept CANCEL. The value of 4-2 is not changing regarding its position. And I think this prevent me to turn on the CCS.
What can I do? Anybody faced with same issue?
Thanks,
Adam.
Today I have installed on my 2010 1.6CRTDI polo a CCS kit. Used VCDS to code in aaaaand not working. Triple checked every connection from lever to BCM and the codes in ECU and BCM as well.
The buttons on the lever works fine I have checked it with a digital multimeter.
Checked the buttons with VCDS in measuring blocks on address 09. Every button work properly exept CANCEL. The value of 4-2 is not changing regarding its position. And I think this prevent me to turn on the CCS.
What can I do? Anybody faced with same issue?
Thanks,
Adam.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
This is bad, the difficult is to found someone who that are able to export to Argentina? I have never done this, but if you need some help, maybe I can try to help you.Pablo f wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:02 pmExactly that is correct. My idea is to disassemble and change only the left stalk. Here in Argentina it has been impossible for me to get that piece.Matmaz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:47 pmThis is the part number of stalk that I have used in my car: 5Z0953513H
But your car is a Up! pepper and if I'm right it must have automated wipers, and because of that you need a different stalk like this 1k5953502k or something similar but with a different connector like as the first part number.
It is also added that they stopped selling the UP from the beginning of the year.
Incredibly it is more difficult to buy from Brazil from here, than from another part of the world.
I'm also trying to get the TURY 2.18 module.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
The main switch shows when it's on or off? It might be a problem on switch ON/CNL/OFFhepike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:02 am Hi,
Today I have installed on my 2010 1.6CRTDI polo a CCS kit. Used VCDS to code in aaaaand not working. Triple checked every connection from lever to BCM and the codes in ECU and BCM as well.
The buttons on the lever works fine I have checked it with a digital multimeter.
Checked the buttons with VCDS in measuring blocks on address 09. Every button work properly exept CANCEL. The value of 4-2 is not changing regarding its position. And I think this prevent me to turn on the CCS.
What can I do? Anybody faced with same issue?
Thanks,
Adam.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Yes, the car register on/off state correctly. Both ecu and bcm. And also the switch works properly: on cancel line normali there is 12V after i turn on the lever. Then if i push the switch to cancel state the voltage deop to 0V on cancel line. If I release the rocker 12V comes back. Checked its wire through the bcm and looks fine, passed the continuity test.Matmaz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:27 amThe main switch shows when it's on or off? It might be a problem on switch ON/CNL/OFFhepike wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:02 am Hi,
Today I have installed on my 2010 1.6CRTDI polo a CCS kit. Used VCDS to code in aaaaand not working. Triple checked every connection from lever to BCM and the codes in ECU and BCM as well.
The buttons on the lever works fine I have checked it with a digital multimeter.
Checked the buttons with VCDS in measuring blocks on address 09. Every button work properly exept CANCEL. The value of 4-2 is not changing regarding its position. And I think this prevent me to turn on the CCS.
What can I do? Anybody faced with same issue?
Thanks,
Adam.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Here is my latest full diagnostic scan:
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Monday,12,April,2021,11:10:41:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAY291948 License Plate: LSX253
Mileage: 273010km-169640mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAY291948 Mileage: 273010km-169640miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYA) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 E HW: 03L 906 023 D
Component: R4 1.6l TDI H13 9979
Revision: --H13--- Serial number:
Coding: 00114014002400080000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023E 003017
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
VCID: 285F4DA753F312C67B-807C
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AF HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0005
Revision: --------
Coding: 210224E3417600B3842E24E582DA00421100
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 00000
VCID: 020B3F0F990F189605-8056
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 J HW: 6R0 820 045 J
Component: Climatic 25 0660
Revision: 00 11 25
VCID: 356194D39C417F2EF0-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 D HW: 6R0 937 087 D
Component: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0207
Revision: BF046001 Serial number: 0147 129100063
Coding: 3CB02BBF08E12400923000007D2B9CD00080410F608E0000200000000000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 3E738BFFA977BC7621-806A
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R HW: 6R0 959 801 R Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 0903
Serial number: KU0-KU028.04.1015206
Coding: 18BC30
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T HW: 6R0 959 802 T Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU003.05.1014076
Coding: 08BC30
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H11 9004
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F HW: 6R0 959 811 F
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU027.04.1011883
Coding: 08BC32
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F HW: 6R0 959 812 F
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU028.04.1012396
Coding: 08BC32
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 D HW: 6R0 959 655 D
Component: VW10Airbag008 H09 0018
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003DX0012AAT
Coding: 003038
Shop #: WSC 00000 384 00190
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 4385FA0BCA95D19E4E-8016
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3572SRB40000B659323/
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3582SRB40000B65942A6
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3516GRB402BET2JT1SVO
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3526GRB4023EJ5R313O3
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 D HW: 6R0 920 861 D
Component: KOMBI H13 0024
Serial number: 00000002324941
Coding: 140A00
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25 A01004
ROD: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25_A01_VW25.rod
VCID: 366393DF89477436F9-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R0 937 087 D
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0207
Coding: 002200
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 70EF65C7A3A31A06E3-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J285) Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 D HW: 6R0 920 861 D
Component: IMMO H13 X005
Serial number:
ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25 A01001
ROD: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25_VW25.rod
VCID: 366393DF89477436F9-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11230
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2F6DA6BBEA1D45FEBA-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 5M0 035 156 C HW: 5M0 035 156 C
Component: Radio H30 0072
Revision: R0000000 Serial number: VWZAZ1K0504816
Coding: 0000020002
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 295948A340F92BCE64-807C
No fault code found.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Hi,
I have sorted the issue out. The problem was the pin 47 of the BCM. The pin was bent. I have fixed and it started to work.
I have sorted the issue out. The problem was the pin 47 of the BCM. The pin was bent. I have fixed and it started to work.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Hello guys,
I also have some problems with the Cruise Control Retrofit. Maybe someone has an idea.
The Details of my Car are:
Polo 6R (manufacturing year 2010)
Central Electric Module (09) ia a Midline (VAG Number ends with 087)
I checked the hardware key switches of the cruise control with VCDS. I think that should be fine.
The Keys "Res/+", "Set/-", "On", "Off", "Cancel" are working. And here is my first question: Am I right, that if I get the right answer of the keys with VCDS that my wiring is fine?
On the first page of this thread is a post from ciclo showing the coding in VCDS.I set in the BCM Bit 7 in Byte 17, like ciclo shows it. For the Engine I am not getting the typical Coding Screen like ciclo is showing it on page one. For that I just opened the engine in VCDS and clicked on "Coding II - 11". I then entered the Code 11463. Is that right?
If I switch now the Cruise Control from Off to On, I get an error in VCDS. It shows me:
Am I right that my mistake is in the coding process and the wires should be fine?
Thank you so much for your help.
I also have some problems with the Cruise Control Retrofit. Maybe someone has an idea.
The Details of my Car are:
Polo 6R (manufacturing year 2010)
Central Electric Module (09) ia a Midline (VAG Number ends with 087)
I checked the hardware key switches of the cruise control with VCDS. I think that should be fine.
The Keys "Res/+", "Set/-", "On", "Off", "Cancel" are working. And here is my first question: Am I right, that if I get the right answer of the keys with VCDS that my wiring is fine?
On the first page of this thread is a post from ciclo showing the coding in VCDS.I set in the BCM Bit 7 in Byte 17, like ciclo shows it. For the Engine I am not getting the typical Coding Screen like ciclo is showing it on page one. For that I just opened the engine in VCDS and clicked on "Coding II - 11". I then entered the Code 11463. Is that right?
If I switch now the Cruise Control from Off to On, I get an error in VCDS. It shows me:
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1 Error found:
17977 - Switch for Cruise Control (GRA/E45)
P1569 - 000 - Signal not plausible
...
Thank you so much for your help.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Did you also put a wire into the engine control unit?
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
---quiddi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:23 pm Hello guys,
I also have some problems with the Cruise Control Retrofit. Maybe someone has an idea.
The Details of my Car are:
Polo 6R (manufacturing year 2010)
Central Electric Module (09) ia a Midline (VAG Number ends with 087)
I checked the hardware key switches of the cruise control with VCDS. I think that should be fine.
The Keys "Res/+", "Set/-", "On", "Off", "Cancel" are working. And here is my first question: Am I right, that if I get the right answer of the keys with VCDS that my wiring is fine?
Yes, you're right in what concerns the communication of CCS switches with BCM.
On the first page of this thread is a post from ciclo showing the coding in VCDS.I set in the BCM Bit 7 in Byte 17, like ciclo shows it. For the Engine I am not getting the typical Coding Screen like ciclo is showing it on page one. For that I just opened the engine in VCDS and clicked on "Coding II - 11". I then entered the Code 11463. Is that right?
It doesn't seem like it's the correct way to code the engine unit, but since it's a 2010 6R anything is possible ...
If I switch now the Cruise Control from Off to On, I get an error in VCDS. It shows me:Am I right that my mistake is in the coding process and the wires should be fine?Code: Select all
1 Error found: 17977 - Switch for Cruise Control (GRA/E45) P1569 - 000 - Signal not plausible ...
It's one of the possibilities.
Thank you so much for your help.
+1 ...
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Please quiddi, show us a full VCDS scan.
It is only necessary to show the units involved, Engine and BCM. (please, copy and paste here the units, ... with faults -)
I am totally sure that this problem has an easy solution ...
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Yes.Did you also put a wire into the engine control unit?
Here are the fault codes:
The Engine:
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Friday,06,August,2021,09:48:26:39744
VCDS Version: Release 17.1.3 Running on Windows 7 x86
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Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 03C 906 024 CM HW: 03C 906 024 BH
Component and/or Version: CMAA MM4HV G 8993
Software Coding: 0000071
Work Shop Code: WSC 60089 143 173740
VCID: 6BD21CEE491EB0192C-515A
1 Fault Found:
17977 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
P1569 - 000 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 216
Mileage: 194689 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2061.14.31
Time: 00:02:58
Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Load: 0.0 %
Lambda: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 28.0∞C
Absolute Pres.: 931.0 mbar
RPM: 0 /min
Readiness: 0110 0001
The BCM
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BCM
Friday,06,August,2021,09:50:12:39744
VCDS Version: Release 17.1.3 Running on Windows 7 x86
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Control Module Part Number: 6R0 937 087 F HW: 6R0 937 087
Component and/or Version: BCM PQ25 H+4 H46 0221
Software Coding: 24B82BBF08A10000003000C07E2B0C10F0C000FF60840000200000000000
Work Shop Code: WSC 12469 483 00190
VCID: 40889B42D3188341A9-8014
No fault code found.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Thanks.
T80/24
- BCM and engine unit are well coded.
- CMAA MM4HV G 8993
G means GRA
- Draw your own conclusions with this info.
Hint: check the wire reaching the engine unit.
- Check that it is inserted correctly, you must remove the pink locking mechanism from T80 connector in order to insert it properly.
T80/24
- BCM and engine unit are well coded.
- CMAA MM4HV G 8993
G means GRA
- Draw your own conclusions with this info.
Hint: check the wire reaching the engine unit.
- Check that it is inserted correctly, you must remove the pink locking mechanism from T80 connector in order to insert it properly.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
okay, what pin did you use on the ecu? it must be t80/24
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Thank you guys. It's working now. I assembled it now to pin 24 at the ECU.
Greeting to the Netherlans and Spain
Greeting to the Netherlans and Spain
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Excellent job, gut gemacht!
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Great! Enjoy it. Thanks for reporting.
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I take the opportunity to greet the United States, Russia, China, India, Australia and the rest small countries around the world.
Before I was born I already thought that I was going to be born in Russia or the United States, now I am clear that someone must have made a mistake when they registered my birth ...
I also want to send many greetings and kisses to Germany, more to Holland, and many more to the United Kingdom.
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I take the opportunity to greet the United States, Russia, China, India, Australia and the rest small countries around the world.
Before I was born I already thought that I was going to be born in Russia or the United States, now I am clear that someone must have made a mistake when they registered my birth ...