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Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:07 pm
by Andy Beats
monkeyhanger wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:54 pm
So many people bumping cars in car parks and sloping off.
There are procedures in place for this though.
If it's a car park with 'unhindered access', then it's classed as a public road and the guilty party sloping off can be done with 'leaving the scene of an accident'
I know someone who did this in an Asda, she got 6 points and a hefty fine (rightly so, sheer stupidity).
The premises involved is obliged to give you CCTV footage of the carpark under the freedom of information act and can only charge a maximum of £10 for doing so.
Of course, you can claim your camera will alleviate one part of the above process, but will it really?
I mean, if the camera just shows your car 'rocking' and another car near it, where is the
actual proof contact took place?
I feel you'd
still need external coverage to prove contact, especially if it's contact from the side (as is most common in car parks).
If it's a car park with barriers and clearly defined open/close times, then it becomes a civil matter and your camera won't help much.
As I said, when cameras become part of the OE spec and nice and neat, I'll think about it - I'm not dead set against them.
I'm not ripping apart trim etc, that just introduces the possibility of rattles that your warranty won't cover.
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:02 pm
by Leif
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:14 pm
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:01 pm
Okay thanks, obviously I didn't know that. That's sad.
Do you know who Wayne Gretsky is?
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:06 pm
by Leif
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:33 pm
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:29 pm
Master Bates, do answer the two questions I asked you.
Nah, I'll leave you wondering.
PS, I'll refer to you as 'mistaken beLeif'
I thought so. You haven't had any instruction since you passed your test. Your mum describes you as a 'nutter' behind the wheel, and yet you blame her. If someone thinks you drive like a 'nutter', that is a wake up call to get your driving checked. There are far too many people on the roads who think that driving on the edge equates to advanced driving. It doesn't. Unfortunately self proclaimed 'expert drivers' are all too common.
And your comments on speed show that you don't have a clue what constitutes dangerous driving. Driving at speed is not per se dangerous. Exceeding the speed limit is not per se dangerous though it is a traffic offence. Driving at excessive speed for the conditions and hazards is dangerous, and that can include speeds lower than the limit.
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:06 pm
by Andy Beats
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:02 pm
Do you know who Wayne Gretsky is?
Ice hockey, I think?
Minority sport here, but I think I'm right.
Is there a prize?
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:10 pm
by Andy Beats
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:06 pm
I thought so. You haven't had any instruction since you passed your test. Your mum describes you as a 'nutter' behind the wheel, and yet you blame her. If someone thinks you drive like a 'nutter', that is a wake up call to get your driving checked. There are far too many people on the roads who think that driving on the edge equates to advanced driving. It doesn't. Unfortunately self proclaimed 'expert drivers' are all too common.
And your comments on speed show that you don't have a clue what constitutes dangerous driving. Driving at speed is not per se dangerous. Exceeding the speed limit is not per se dangerous though it is a traffic offence. Driving at excessive speed for the conditions and hazards is dangerous, and that can include speeds lower than the limit.
I neither confirmed nor denied anything, it's funnier to keep you guessing and your assumption to suit your agenda is even funnier.
And you've totally missed the point about my mother.
Her thinking I drive like a nutter doesn't mean I do, she'd probably think a hearse driver was a nutter.
She sat in the back of my car the other day as I did 70mph along a quiet dual carriageway saying "now I wouldn't be doing this speed you see"
Yeah, right enough, I'm a
NUTTER!
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm
by silverhairs
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:02 pm
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:14 pm
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:01 pm
Okay thanks, obviously I didn't know that. That's sad.
Do you know who Wayne Gretsky is?
Leave it Leif, he's only out for confrontation, he'll argue that blacks white. Here's a member who put too higher wattage bulbs in his headlights, not realising it could fry his wiring, but they looked good, until a member pointed this out, then has to ask the forum, if his car had cruise control

?
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:21 pm
by Andy Beats
silverhairs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm
Leave it Leif, he's only out for confrontation, he'll argue that blacks white. Here's a member who put too higher wattage bulbs in his headlights, not realising it could fry his wiring, but they looked good, until a member pointed this out, then has to ask the forum, if his car had cruise control

?
Dry your eyes, Mr 'doesn't allow replies' to PMs
Coward.
It's OK, I'm not one of those scary Eastern Europeans that come over here without licences and/or insurance.
I mean, that was unheard of before we let 'them' in, wasn't it?
BTW, maybe I don't know who Wayne Gretsky is.
I was thinking of Wayne Gretzky.
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:27 pm
by Andy Beats
silverhairs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm
Leave it Leif, he's only out for confrontation, he'll argue that blacks white. Here's a member who put too higher wattage bulbs in his headlights, not realising it could fry his wiring, but they looked good,
They did look
REALLY good.
I'll maybe put them back in, hang the wiring.
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:28 pm
by silverhairs
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:10 pm
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:06 pm
I thought so. You haven't had any instruction since you passed your test. Your mum describes you as a 'nutter' behind the wheel, and yet you blame her. If someone thinks you drive like a 'nutter', that is a wake up call to get your driving checked. There are far too many people on the roads who think that driving on the edge equates to advanced driving. It doesn't. Unfortunately self proclaimed 'expert drivers' are all too common.
And your comments on speed show that you don't have a clue what constitutes dangerous driving. Driving at speed is not per se dangerous. Exceeding the speed limit is not per se dangerous though it is a traffic offence. Driving at excessive speed for the conditions and hazards is dangerous, and that can include speeds lower than the limit.
I neither confirmed nor denied anything, it's funnier to keep you guessing and your assumption to suit your agenda is even funnier.
And you've totally missed the point about my mother.
Her thinking I drive like a nutter doesn't mean I do, she'd probably think a hearse driver was a nutter.
She sat in the back of my car the other day as I did 70mph along a quiet dual carriageway saying "now I wouldn't be doing this speed you see"
Yeah, right enough, I'm a
NUTTER!
In a reply to me he stated that his 73 year old mother was more of a geek than me???
GEEK
Noun.
An unfashionable or socially inept person
Verb.
Engage in or discuss computer related tasks, obsessively or with great attention to technical detail.

Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:34 pm
by Andy Beats
silverhairs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:28 pm
In a reply to me he stated that his 73 year old mother was more of a geek than me???
GEEK
Noun.
An unfashionable or socially inept person
Verb.
Engage in or discuss computer related tasks, obsessively or with great attention to technical detail.
Stop it, for your own sake.
You're just showing yourself to be so out of touch...
Geek isn't a verb, no one 'geeks'
No-one says "I was geeking the other night" or "would you like to geek"
And a geek isn't
just a socially inept person, it's someone who knows about something to excess.
Therefore, I would be a motorbike geek.
Good god.

Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:03 pm
by Leif
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:21 pm
silverhairs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:18 pm
Leave it Leif, he's only out for confrontation, he'll argue that blacks white. Here's a member who put too higher wattage bulbs in his headlights, not realising it could fry his wiring, but they looked good, until a member pointed this out, then has to ask the forum, if his car had cruise control

?
Dry your eyes, Mr 'doesn't allow replies' to PMs
Coward.
It's OK, I'm not one of those scary Eastern Europeans that come over here without licences and/or insurance.
I mean, that was unheard of before we let 'them' in, wasn't it?
BTW, maybe I don't know who Wayne Gretsky is.
I was thinking of Wayne Gretzky.
Did you know who he was?
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:03 pm
by Leif
silverhairs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:28 pm
In a reply to me he stated that his 73 year old mother was more of a geek than me???
GEEK
Noun.
An unfashionable or socially inept person
Verb.
Engage in or discuss computer related tasks, obsessively or with great attention to technical detail.

Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:06 pm
by Leif
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:10 pm
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:06 pm
I thought so. You haven't had any instruction since you passed your test. Your mum describes you as a 'nutter' behind the wheel, and yet you blame her. If someone thinks you drive like a 'nutter', that is a wake up call to get your driving checked. There are far too many people on the roads who think that driving on the edge equates to advanced driving. It doesn't. Unfortunately self proclaimed 'expert drivers' are all too common.
And your comments on speed show that you don't have a clue what constitutes dangerous driving. Driving at speed is not per se dangerous. Exceeding the speed limit is not per se dangerous though it is a traffic offence. Driving at excessive speed for the conditions and hazards is dangerous, and that can include speeds lower than the limit.
I neither confirmed nor denied anything, it's funnier to keep you guessing and your assumption to suit your agenda is even funnier.
If that is how you get your amusement, fair enough, but it's sad and pathetic.
Andy Beats wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:10 pm
And you've totally missed the point about my mother.
Her thinking I drive like a nutter doesn't mean I do, she'd probably think a hearse driver was a nutter.
She sat in the back of my car the other day as I did 70mph along a quiet dual carriageway saying "now I wouldn't be doing this speed you see"
Yeah, right enough, I'm a
NUTTER!
You need to get your driving checked.
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:12 pm
by Andy Beats
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:06 pm
You need to get your driving checked.
Nope.
An old woman's opinion that my perfectly safe and legal 70mph is excessive doesn't make it so.
Stupid to even suggest it.
Re: Dangerous driving
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:14 pm
by Andy Beats
Leif wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:03 pm
Did you know who he was?
Did I know who he was?
Like I once knew, but I've forgotten?
Do you mean "do I know who he is"?
Which one?
Gretsky or Gretzky
You've said 'was', which suggests it might not be Wayne Gretzky, as he's still alive.
But you didn't know Colin McRae was dead, so you might be equally unaware that Wayne Gretzky is still alive.
