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Posted: **Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:07 pm**

Hola Ciclo!

Firstly I would like to congratulate you on your amazing car mods, it's an inspiration!

I've some questions about your automatic lights mod:
It seems that you used repair wires (000979009E) to connect to the new 10-pins light switch housing (8E0971980), despite the fact that the old 17-pins light switch housing (1J0972999) uses different cross-section wires.
How about the connections to the BCM (pins 1 and 37) and to the relay housing (4H0937529), which wires did you use?
It seems that I can use the same repair wire to connect to the BCM, and the repair wire 000979023E to connect to relays pins 1 and 2... for pins 3 and 5 couldn't find anything.
Could you please help?

Thank you and feliz navidad!

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:42 am**

Hi rmps. Festas Felizes! Eu aprecio o seu comentário.

To tell you exactly what kind of wires you need, I have to know what is the "model year" of your Polo.
Tell me the tenth letter of your VIN: http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 09#p478942

In the diagram that I share with everyone

, you can see the thickness of the cross section of the wires, look on the final page of this installation guide.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... edit?pli=1

BCM:
Pin 1: http://www.a4-freunde.com/attachment.ph ... 1353&stc=1
Pin 37: http://www.a4-freunde.com/attachment.ph ... 1415539780

Repair wires OEM that go to adapter relays 4H0937529 are not sold on VW because they have different contact pins at each end, so I can not say an exact reference.
In any case, for 4H0937529 you need this type of contact pin (depending on the thickness of the cross section of the cable): http://www.a4-freunde.com/attachment.ph ... 1415009194 , http://www.a4-freunde.com/attachment.ph ... 1416146148

On this website you have the references of the contact pins: http://www.a4-freunde.com/showwiki.php? ... zu+gehoert
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I guess you know that I sell the wirings for automatic lights. http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 09#p478298
By the questions you ask me about wiring automatic lights, my recommendation as a friend (not as seller) and due to the extensive experience with other users in this forum and many other forums around the world, you would make a good decision if you buy the wiring for automatic lights I sell.

-The car lights are very important for your safety.
-You will save lots of time and especially money.
-All wirings automatic lights that I sold, work perfectly... forever.

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:16 pm**

PM me Ciclo. I want the wiring as well!

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:12 pm**

benzinkopf
http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 22#p485922

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:49 am**

I do not provide technical support for this: http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 95#p483697
I apologize, it's too long to explain.

The installation guide is correct.

Posted: **Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:32 pm**

Muchas gracias, Fernado!

ciclo wrote: To tell you exactly what kind of wires you need, I have to know what is the "model year" of your Polo.
Tell me the tenth letter of your VIN: http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 09#p478942

It's a C - MY2012. With original xenon lights and rain/light sensor.

ciclo wrote: In the diagram that I share with everyone , you can see the thickness of the cross section of the wires, look on the final page of this installation guide.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... edit?pli=1

That's the diagram I'm talking about. For instance, you have a 0.5 mm^2 cross-section wire from pin #4 of the new 10-pin light switch housing (8E0971980) conecting to pin #1 of the original 17-pin light switch housing (1J0972999), despite the fact that the original wire connecting to it have 2.5 mm^2...

ciclo wrote: BCM:
Pin 1: http://www.a4-freunde.com/attachment.ph ... 1353&stc=1
Pin 37: http://www.a4-freunde.com/attachment.ph ... 1415539780

Both with 0.5 mm^2, I suppose. I didn't find any schematics with those connections...

ciclo wrote: I guess you know that I sell the wirings for automatic lights. http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 09#p478298
By the questions you ask me about wiring automatic lights, my recommendation as a friend (not as seller) and due to the extensive experience with other users in this forum and many other forums around the world, you would make a good decision if you buy the wiring for automatic lights I sell.

-The car lights are very important for your safety.
-You will save lots of time and especially money.
-All wirings automatic lights that I sold, work perfectly... forever.

Unfortunately, when I bought all the parts (except wires) I didn't know about your kit. I saw a similiar diagram in the french Polo 6R forum before I found this one.
I did built a plastic connector to the original 17-pin light switch housing (1J0972999) - something like the rear end of the original light switch, so that I don't have to remove any wires.

Best regards,
Rui Saraiva

Posted: **Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:13 am**

Hi Rul,
With your permission:

Let's take this issue as an example of the hundreds of messages I get on my email requesting information about automatic lights wiring, but this time so that it can be read to everyone.

1- Model Year.
Your POLO 6R is "C", then your first mistake is that you bought the wrong adapter relays (4H0937529). Consequently, also the contact pins or wire repair.
The right for your model year is 8E0937527 for a perfect installation (OEM).

2- Cross-section wires.
-This is the most important part of the whole manufacturing process of the wiring. It is not correct any wiring purchased at any store, it must be specific to automotive.
Not all cables have the same technical specifications even if they have the same dimensions. You will prevent your car is on fire due to excessive heat in the wires.

-From (old pin1) 2.5mm2 to (new pin4) 0.5 mm2:
The new light switch is electronic and all light switching processes are controlled by the BCM or relays, so it is not necessary that electrical consumption go through the light switch.

3- Electrical diagram of the French forum is incomplete, it comes from a diagram of the German forum (Master2b) that is not entirely correct.
-I had to correct so that all lights work correctly in all POLO 6R with different BCM.
-VCDS coding from French forum is not valid for all POLO 6R.

Lest anyone get angry:
The manufacturing process shown in the french forum (as you already know) is not with original parts, however, it is much appreciated by me that people show their work with the intention of sharing.
Justice: Diagram owned by Master2b already existed elsewhere but in a better way... It was enough to look at the Elsawin in the right place...
Nonetheless, everyone should thank Master2b his work, was the beginning of the automatic lights for Polo 6R...

If you want a perfect wiring (only wiring)... contact me by PM. «I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse»

AS I said: you will save lots of time and especially money.

Show us a picture of the plastic connector 17-pin female you've made.

Posted: **Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:33 pm**

hello ciclo,

i have polo 6r 1.4 highline (no bluemotion) manua garebox an bcm 6R0 937 087 D right now polo 6r highline, fog lights, cruise control, climate control.

I have no rainsensor and no automatic mirror that dims and no automatich lighting offcourse.

Can the rainsor and automatic mirror can be installed with my current bcm? I found a new window of a polo bluemotion 6r with rainsensor will this fit on my polo (i don't have a bluemotion).

Which bcm i need for the the automatic lights precisely? I found one on the internet 7H0937089F from a seat ibiza 2011 will that work? http://www.onderdelenlijn.nl/upload/onl ... SR20-1.jpg

i like to order your kit offcourse but first i want to make the new BCM to work before i start with the wirring.

greetings,

Sander

Posted: **Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:29 pm**

It's a bit sad that Ciclo's excellent build thread has been turned into a "questions to ciclo thread".

Maybe there could be a seperate thread for that (If ciclo is interested of course) so this thread could be a normal build thread.

Posted: **Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:09 am**

Hi sanderb,

sanderb wrote:Which bcm i need for the the automatic lights precisely? I found one on the internet 7H0937089F from a seat ibiza 2011 will that work? http://www.onderdelenlijn.nl/upload/onl ... SR20-1.jpg

Upgrade BCM Polo 6R:
Beware, this is a very delicate process !!

My experience: I have a BCM High 7H0937089F from factory on my R-line for xenon headlights, but I tried to install a "used" BCM Max 7H0937090 from a Skoda Rapid.

After encode everything correctly, basics settings (not sure if this was necessary), adaptation of keys, etc ... I was not able to make will work properly the instrument cluster, consequently there were detected faults in other units for this reason. These units were working properly.

VCDS autoscan with this BCM Max:

Code: Select all

Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 55 56 77

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY-ciclo

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0001
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZC)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 GD    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 2686  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001100D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GD 004004
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GD.rod
   VCID: 6AD1DC718D64C89

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3216D00B5842814EA84D300401700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 8201124819F1500E027-80D7

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0711  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 387530A08BAD4ADE6C3-806D

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 253
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H72 0708  
   Revision: B9072001    Serial number: 0531 022130666
   Coding: 3CB02FBF48E1240093380FD17EEB9FD8FAC067FF600530C1200000010000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 960 03736
   VCID: EBDF5FEC0A7BB146D11-80BE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 050512 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0F302D

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Coding: 18BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Coding: 18BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47361212601014
   Coding: 308001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3E7926B8A18974EEA6F-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01JKVVP
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW24.rod
   VCID: 4A917A68ED41C84E0A7-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB405N1C4LI7929

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405B1D5MS8GS2

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405B17ABS901.

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405B181TUDPKC

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C    HW: 6R0 920 870 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00233 572 91226
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE35.rod
   VCID: 356B399494BFB7B6775-8060

1 Fault Found:
12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 253
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H72 0708  
   Revision: B9072001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00216
   VCID: F0E54880235D529EE43-80A5

1 Fault Found:
00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 252
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod
   VCID: EAD15AE80D81A84EAA7-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662584630    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2A511AE84501E84EEA7-807F

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 253
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3777339C86B345A6659-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V9  7918 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F670BFCEAE38D663D9-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0112000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt.rod
   VCID: F7F7739C4E3305A6259-80A2

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3777339C86B345A6659-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V9  7918 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664158506
   Coding: 0501000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3B7F2FACB29B61C6811-806E

1 Fault Found:
12670208 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster 
          U0155 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 207


End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

I went to the VW dealer to adapt this BCM Max in my R-line. With its New diagnostic tool (not VAS 5054) and via online with factory (told me them) they were unable adapt this BCM in my R-line.

SOLUTION

http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 00#p497844

sanderb wrote: bcm 6R0 937 087 D
Can the rainsor and automatic mirror can be installed with my current bcm? I found a new window of a polo bluemotion 6r with rainsensor will this fit on my polo (i don't have a bluemotion).

Yes, no problem. Just consider installing the wires correctly.
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Please, click here http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 97#p483697

Posted: **Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:48 am**

[quote="ciclo"]
New Mod:
Volmeter

Wonderful mod

Posted: **Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:31 am**

Mart!n-GTI-DK wrote:It's a bit sad that Ciclo's excellent build thread has been turned into a "questions to ciclo thread".
Maybe there could be a seperate thread for that (If ciclo is interested of course) so this thread could be a normal build thread.

You're absolutely right my good friend Martin, I would have a better organized thread.
In any case, I'm guilty of this.

I take this opportunity to tell you I bought a pair of LEDs for indicators and one for reverse gear. Just to test how they work.
Also I have another mod to test, but it will take a month of tests. After I will upload some pictures in my thread, but I will not say I've done.

Just like last year: Glædelig jul og Godt Nytår 2015

"Happy New Year 2015 to all".

Posted: **Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:43 am**

Ugabista wrote:
ciclo wrote:New Mod:
-Voltmeter
Hi friend,
Which the outer size of the voltmeter box?
Alloys up to the car cigarette lighter?
What are the characteristics voltmeter, DC 0-100V?
The links do not work ...
Hug

Ugabista, I tell you the right links if you edit and delete the pictures from your "quote" like I just did.

My finger scroll will thank you.

EDIT: Thank you

Please thoroughly read description.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-3-00-32V-Dig ... 20f2f70d37
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-PCS-LOT-0-36- ... 1e96eb8a70
Store: http://stores.ebay.com/jennyear
lighter: http://www.uk-polos.net/view ... 95#p465295

Posted: **Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:37 pm**

Voltmeter discreet and very helpful

Posted: **Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:34 pm**

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