Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:59 pm
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Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:11 pm
Oh well. For next time you won't make this mistake. At least your car drives again.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:58 pm
Good evening my friends. The year seems to be ending with good news regarding the BCM change.
This afternoon the change was made and this time it was successful.
The new BCM has code 6C0937090E
Here is a new scan:
I made some adaptations myself, but some issues remain.
One small thing is that the brake pad wear indicator is permanently active. I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. Can someone help me with the change to long coding?
And the second it the MFSW, i have to search for it, i am not remember a lot from the installation of it.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
This afternoon the change was made and this time it was successful.
The new BCM has code 6C0937090E
Here is a new scan:
Code: Select all
Friday,30,December,2022,18:43:00:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378 License Plate:
Mileage: 65047km-40418mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378 Mileage: 65047km-40418miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB) Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
Part No SW: 04C 906 057 AB HW: 04E 907 309 CB
Component: R3 1.0l MPI H20 2496
Revision: 33H20000
Coding: 01110012020400080000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB 001002
ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB.rod
VCID: 65C104936461CFA350-8030
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
Component: ESP9.0i H03 0004
Serial number: 08512057160424
Coding: 21DD2485492333C8091700700059842492CC90000005C9098F00
Shop #: WSC 49716 005 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8D3332-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 820 045 C HW: 6C0 820 045 C
Component: AC Manuell H03 0202
Serial number: 1605161B-0418
Coding: 200000000000100000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
VCID: 1F4D567B06BDD573DA-804A
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:| 6C0-937-090-V1.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 937 090 E HW: 6C0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ26 HiKR H10 0101
Serial number: 006738042497
Coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 006004
ROD: EV_BCMA0_006_VW26.rod
VCID: 2A5BB7AF4DFF20DBBD-807E
Driver door control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DG HW: 6R0 959 801 DG Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 0610
Serial number: KU0KU012051661335260
Coding: 0000A0
Front passenger door control module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DL HW: 6R0 959 802 DL Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 0610
Serial number: KU0KU030041661212448
Coding: 1000A0
Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 AA HW: 6R0 959 811 AA
Component: J388__TSG_HL 003 0610
Serial number: KU0KU028041661198823
Coding: 0000A0
Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 AA HW: 6R0 959 812 AA
Component: J389__TSG_HR 003 0610
Serial number: KU0KU002051661233279
Coding: 1000A0
1 Fault Found:
555797 - Databus
U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 65047 km
Date: 2022.12.30
Time: 18:25:06
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 J HW: 6C0 959 655 J
Component: VW20Airbag00A 002 0380
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003TH006KLNX
Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
VCID: 3A7B87EFBD5F905BCD-806E
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 410 820 305 16
Component: SideSensor_Df 151 0800
Serial number: 3575H00A520BDDD2520R
Coding: 2D2D2D
Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 410 821 104 16
Component: SideSensor_Pf 151 0800
Serial number: 3585H00A5209A1C310AF
Coding: 2D2D2D
Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 442 152 204 16
Component: SideSensor_Dr 1CA 0148
Serial number: 3517A00AF1FACC94822/
Coding: 2D2D2D
Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 442 152 204 16
Component: SideSensor_Pr 1CA 0148
Serial number: 3527A00C12060D61520W
Coding: 2D2D2D
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 6C0 920 740 C HW: 6C0 920 740 C
Component: KOMBI 201 1420
Coding: 0704090021000008110828000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 49716 005 104857
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 224B5F8F35CFF89BF5-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 909 901 A HW: 6C0 937 090
Component: GW MQB A0 H10 0101
Revision: -------- Serial number: 006738042497
Coding: 01010008200A640071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_VW26.rod
VCID: 2643439F59E704BB99-8072
1 Fault Found:
197169 - Controls in Steering Wheel
U108E 00 [009] - No Communications
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 65047 km
Date: 2022.12.30
Time: 18:18:02
Terminal 30 power supply: 12.3 V
Terminal 15: On
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792) Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG HW: 6C1 909 144 D
Component: EPS_TRW_ALow 312 3232
Serial number: PG5Q1139
Coding: 000700
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
VCID: 6DD17CB3BC91F7E318-8038
No fault code found.
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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 035 888 B HW: 6C0 035 888 B
Component: MU-E--ER 851 6490
Serial number: 19041600012060
Coding: 026200003C00000041110001010000001F0000840000010001
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW26.rod
VCID: 2B55B2AB420539D346-807E
No fault code found.One small thing is that the brake pad wear indicator is permanently active. I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. Can someone help me with the change to long coding?
And the second it the MFSW, i have to search for it, i am not remember a lot from the installation of it.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:01 pm
Old BCM coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
New BCM coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
Did you check your BCM coding for these issues? There are a lot of differences.
MFSW: is the MFSW installed? Wires connected to slip ring? LIN wire to BCM and power cable to i.e. fuse box?
New BCM coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
Did you check your BCM coding for these issues? There are a lot of differences.
MFSW: is the MFSW installed? Wires connected to slip ring? LIN wire to BCM and power cable to i.e. fuse box?
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:54 pm
The MFSW is installed.iichel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:01 pm Old BCM coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
New BCM coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
Did you check your BCM coding for these issues? There are a lot of differences.
MFSW: is the MFSW installed? Wires connected to slip ring? LIN wire to BCM and power cable to i.e. fuse box?
I have to check the wiring, ιt's been a while since I installed it.
Yes the old and the new coding have a lot of differences. I'll have to find out what those differences are meaning.
The first thing i want to do is to deactive the warning light for the brake pads, i don't like seeing the warning triangle all the time.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:15 am
But why is the coding so different? Were the codings and adaptations of your old bcm saved and transferred to the new BCM? If so, how was it then? If not, why not?
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:58 am
The BCM with code 6C0937090E is a BCM that never installed from the factory to any Polo 6C. Maybe during the change, the copying of the coding was not done correctly for this reason.
Today, I putted the coding from the previous BCM and now all the warning lights gone. That's a good start.
So i have to do the MFSW install from the begining, in fact i will check the wiring and change the wiring for the Horn plate. I have a "hybrid" wiring right now for the Horn plate.
I have a MFSW and i did the wiring for that, but i kept the old wire for the Horn Plate only.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:29 pm
the horn wire is fine, you can use vcds to code it via LIN (MFSW) or via direct wire to BCM.
i would recommend to also restore all adaptations from the old bcm to the new bcm, they are important and even more since the MQB platform was introduced.
i would recommend to also restore all adaptations from the old bcm to the new bcm, they are important and even more since the MQB platform was introduced.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:43 pm
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:05 am
Happy new year to all of you.
At last, the MFSW is working
I had to push the MF connector more to click to its position.
I made the coding and it seems to work fine. Of course i don't have Cruise control, it is something that is useless for the use that is made in this car.
At last, the MFSW is working
I had to push the MF connector more to click to its position.
I made the coding and it seems to work fine. Of course i don't have Cruise control, it is something that is useless for the use that is made in this car.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:11 am
Your advice is excellent, i have to do this. For example, the cornering fog lights, don't work. The luggage lock doesn't unlock when i stop the car and pull out the key.
The problem is i don't have the old adaptations, and it seems that there are a lot of them. How can i do that?
How can i extract the adaptations from the old BCM ?
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:15 am
It would have been nice if you did it before the replacement. perhaps you can install it back in your car, but I think CP will activate, unless you disconnect cluster, radio etc.
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:57 am
Yes i can still connect the old BCM on my car, but how can i extract all the adaptations? One by one ?
Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:00 am
You could but that's not very effective. If you have VCDS, go to applications, controller adaptation map, enter 09 and SA 31347, check adaptations and make CSV.
You can very easily restore old adaptations to the new BCM with the restore function in the same window.
Disconnect cluster and radio to avoid CP errors.
You can very easily restore old adaptations to the new BCM with the restore function in the same window.
Disconnect cluster and radio to avoid CP errors.Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:39 am
Thank you very much. I will try it. I even found a video for this procedureiichel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:00 am You could but that's not very effective. If you have VCDS, go to applications, controller adaptation map, enter 09 and SA 31347, check adaptations and make CSV.
You can very easily restore old adaptations to the new BCM with the restore function in the same window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au4FR1FCrHU
Another thing, maybe i will change the car battery, do i have to do it with the vcds ?
Just like that ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI