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Will I break my key?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:25 am
by migui_blu
Hi all

I have an S-reg 6N. I'm looking to mod my current key to fit a switchblade. However I'm a little worried that by cutting it I won't be able to start the car once I'm finished and render it completely useless.

My car is fitted with an immobiliser, my dad told me an electronic chip is in the tip of the key, I'm not 100% how accurate that is.

If that is the case then I shouldn't be worried, however my novice opinion makes me think the chip is located at the top of the key, that black plastic circley bit as you can see in the picture. So chopping it I think would render it useless.

This is the current key/key fob arrangement I have with the car...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... otohosting

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... otohosting

The scorpion key fob is what I use to unlock the car, I think...

...fukk it I'm a retard, have no idea what I'm talking about, can this be done. It's that black circley bit i'm stressin about. I've look all over the internet but no'one seems to have done it with my type of key.

Also, does anyone know if I can use the switchblades key lock/unlock function with my scorpion alarm?

Sorry for the essay, just wanted to make myself clear, if anyone could educate me I will love you for ever (figure of speech).

Cheers

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:38 pm
by Black Dub
Dont really understand what u want to do?

but the black circular part in the key that your talking about is the transmitter for the immobiliser, so by scrapping this part of tampering with it, u wont be able to start your car. All keys with this black part in them have to be codded to the specific vehicle. main dealer job.

hope it helps?

Key

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:53 pm
by migui_blu
Click on the link, hopefully that'll explain what I want to do.

http://www.pocketrocket.ca/switchblade_key.html

I thought as much, you wouldn't happen to know if the transponder actually need to be in contact with the metal of the key of it just needs the proximity. Cause I could take it our of the key and put it inside the switchblade housing.

Any ideas.... :D

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:23 pm
by James14100
Have a test.

Take the chip out of your old key and hold it near it. and try to start your car.

James

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:32 pm
by James14100
ok just went and tested a few things.

the chip has to be in it's little cradle.

it doesn't matter which way round you have it
you only need it to start the engine - once running the chip can be removed and car still runs fine.

i want to know how you can do this aswell. i imagine that the mk4 key has a similar chip inside it, would it be posible to replace it with my one?

James

Key

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:24 pm
by migui_blu
Cheers James

Any chance of a picture of what the chip looks like, I prefer not to do it in the dark. :?

I've found some things on the net, this might be relevant but I don't understand "foreign"...

I think I read on a previous forum "page 4" titled "Switchblade Key" that "metz" was offering to do the key at a price. I guess I'm asking for your experience in this matter. :D

And if anyone else has any previous experience with this type of key :D

Cheers so far

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:52 am
by James14100
Heres the key and the chip

Image

I'll have to buy a switchblade to see if it can be done - have a fiddle around and see if i can get it done.

James

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:50 am
by Pedro_Hilario
I had the common vw key just like james, with the little imobiliser ( that little black thingy)

I bought a VW switchblade key for 30 euros and did just like you can see here http://www.cleaned.be/faq.php?action=toonmeer&id=8

Just as long as the imobiliser is close to the ignition barrel when you put the key in the ignition it will work fine. The first time i placed the imobiliser 2cm away and it didn't worked. As you can see in the picture a little hole in the switchblade key and you're done.
to get you VW key to fit on the switchblade you will have do fiddle with it a little bit but it's very easy.

another site that has many pictures about that is http://www.ibizaclubpt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3563 ( in portuguese)

I have already managed to fit 3 keys to switchblade ones with those two guides. all working.

What i'm now trying to do is to fit my alarm into the switchblade key



Pedro

Moito Obrigado!!!!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:32 am
by migui_blu
Pedro that portuguese guide was f#cking awesome. Please let me know if you manage to fit your alarm to the switchblade.

WKD

Ok I've kinda managed to translate the portuguese by making sense of the pictures and the fact that I'm spanish. I've compiled a DIY thingy using the info from HERE and HERE. So the credit goes to both sources. I just had far too much time on my hands (not revising for exams) and was bothered to compile the two.

So if any one's interested, reply to the post and leave your email and i'll send you a word document as an attatchment with the details of the "How to".

Thanks James and Pedro for the help so far.

GOD THAT FEELS GOOD!!!!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:52 am
by James14100
yes mate i'll have some of that.

Mail me it to:

[email protected]

Regards, James

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:58 am
by carmadaaron
can also be hosted then put into the DIY section ;)

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:35 pm
by Pedro_Hilario
Hey,

If you need anything translated let me know.
I know the webmaster from that forum and he can get the keyfobs of the switchblade keys if anyone's interested.

Send me your little diy perhaps i can had something to it.

About getting the alarm in there. Mine fits but there is just a problem with the power supply ( battery too big) but i now of some sites that shows how to put the alarm in the switchblade key.
alarm01
or
alarm02


Another good site with pictures of how to get your key into a switchblade key is this one

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:57 pm
by James14100
Still haven't got this 'guide'

I really wanted to get this started.

I've just bought another 2 polos off ebay and want to fit them before i get on the road with them.

James

sorry for the delay

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:29 am
by migui_blu
Hi

James, sorry for not emailing the .pdf/.doc

I'm not at home at the moment, I should be there later on tonight.

Pedro, I haven't found anywhere online that hosts pdf files for free. So i'll send you what I've got as a word file, feel free to edit it in anyway (include the alarm if you can) and host it somehwere.

You said you know a webmaster who can get fobs? From where and how much?

Battery too big, could you not use the original vw battery in the key already?

Cheers