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ok as some of you may know im thinking of redoing the boot in my polo but after that the bass should drown out all my current mid and trebble. so what im planning is to build some door builds that do NOT use the stock speaker locations and multiple speakers are not a problem however i would like to keep it to 2 mids and 1 tweeter per door for manageablity so what i need is someone to recomend some powerful and very clear sounding mids as i love uplifting trance and most teckno and dance with vocals and high frequencys and i want to be able to really push the mid as i seriously lack mid at the moment. as a side note i have been recomended to use 1x 16cm mid and 1x 10cm mid with a seperate tweeter per door. should i be using components?
the other request which is related is theese will need an amp to get them to the kind of volumes i want so i also need a recomendation as to what amp will drive them hard and for long periods of time without getting too stressed but it must also be compact unless it will be on mounted under a front seat.

For improved sound quality I'd advise that you build speaker locations in the front kick panels or as far away from the driver as possible, keep the tweeters on top of the dash or in the stock locations - I think I'm right in saying they currently reside in the door on a panel that cover the wing mirror bolts. This improves sound quality and allows you to distinguish the difference between the left and right channel.

For AMP's money is the key, I recently spent £700 on a Myryad home amplifier as an upgrade to my old but good Rotel, the difference was £500 but there is so much punch and energy from my speakers now, it's as though you are forced to listen to everynote. Now this is a home system, I'd never dream of spending this amount of money on ICE but from experience you pay for sound quality. Listen to as many amps as you can before you commit.

Des

been looking at some cars and a new technique seems to be fitting tweeters into the headrests. this would give a perfect soundstage, but not sure how easy/diffucult this would be. One technique used a lot is to fix your mids where you want them (preferably deep in the footwells, facing towards you) and put the tweets on a long piece of wire secured with blue-tac. this lets you try loads of different locations before you commit to making some builds.

As for speakers - Kenwood or Alpine are the best big brand names. The ultimate would be some Focals or even some Oxigen mids (O2 logo on cones) these are unbeatable when it comes to high freqs

now karl if i were to get the oxygens what sizes would be the optimals, ive been to o for 16cm +10 cm and tweet for the best sound quality but is there a better combo? i am willing to put some work into this by the way
what ill prolly do is build a seperate "enclosure" witht eh speakers stepped but the problems are that under spireted driving legs can flail a little as your heel and toeing while dropping a couple of gears and braking while steering causing a slide and ill need as much room as possible and ther door pocket starts quite a way foreward and then what do you think i should trim it in, i was thinking vynal for ease but it can look a little tacky and i prolly wont do the whole door pannel as then id have to do the dash and i like my bumpy and dusty dash!
oh btw are there 2 Oxygen ranges i.e. one for economy and one for out right performance? ill oprolly be getting theese within the next mopnth you see even if there not fitted for a while

Depends on what subs you get. more sub cone space you use the less bass the doors are required to produce.

as for what material, i would (from the info you've given me - and taking a note of your spraying abilities) use a bit of painted fibreglass. this means when (not if!) you chip it you can touch it up.

probably stick with -

2 x 12'' subs with matching class D amps
2 x 10cm door speakers in each door - run from small separate amp
1 set of tweets in door - run from head unit
1 set of tweets in dash - run from head unit


that should give u something to think about!

no im looking for mid that can make your ears bleed
the subs will almost definatly be
2x 10 inch round in sealed boxes (x-plod) run off a 760 max amp
1x p15" x plod sub in a ported box run off a specific amp
and im toying with the idea of a pair of 8" in the boot lid so there pointing down when the boots open but thats not set in stone
id like to be able to almose drown out the bass with mid and treble
if anyone knows the tune HIGHER STATE OF CONCIOUSNESS then you will know the sort of system im looking for when i say i want to better my golf which was so powerful on mid and high freqs that it was actually painful to listen to that tune for prolonged periods of time

Me

(Josh Wink)



Higher State of Consiousness by Josh Wink is one of my fave tunes (has to be the tweekin acid funk mix though!)

Now I know what kind of trebble you are after!

I think you'll need some proper tweeters. Some that won't melt when you start banging loads of watts into them.

Also, get yo self some badass 16.5cm's in the doors. None of this 10cm business!

I can wholeheartedly recommend Focal speakers. They are made in France too, so you may be able to get them at a discount?

the discount isnt an issue as i get 20% on any brand at work which includes alpine, oxygen, focal etc
and what you said about tweeters is true as i found out when one of mine started pouring out smoke ages ago but its started working again WTF???

so then were saying focal or oxygen then. ill trty and have a listen but i still need amp advice but that will depend on which squeakers i go for
oh and josh 16.5 pffft i say 10+16.5 in each front door and then maybe a tweet in each door and a tweet on each side of the dash
remember im looking to get actual pain here

What about a 10cm and a 7x10 30-way speaker? that should give you enough bass

i was thinking of leaving the bass in the rear and then concentrating on trying to make peoples ears suffer up front

what about a row of tweeter across the top of the dash, angled towards the passengers. that would be quite cool (and painful)!

good idea but oxygen or focal for the mids and tweets?

go for focals - i haven't actually heard the O2s, but everyone that has says there the bomb

Me and a mate had a discussion on Focal's a while back. He now runs Focal Components up front (the best ones, don't know the type #), plus a Hifonics Olympus amp.

I contemplated on getting the Focal's too, but in the end opted for Boston Acoustics Pro 6.5 components. Here's why;

We listened to both sets side by side in a 'professional' listening booth, and we found that the Focals were more 'audiophile' type speakers. They were a bit more crisp and we had the impression they were best suited to play Jazz, for instance. More 'laid back', if that makes any sense. It suited the sound he was after, so he didn't hesitate and went for them.

The Boston's, on the other hand, were more 'American' in their sound, so they had a bit more presense and generally more 'in your face' than the Focals. Less refined, too. Again, this sound matched with what I wanted and I went for them.

My point;

Try and get some reviews on the speakers you're interested in, there are several online resources to try. Also, if you have the chance: listen to them IRL.

Good luck!