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Engine transplants!

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:16 pm
by Polo-03
Following talks on the polo 9n forum I was having a think about engine transplants. Just a few questions.

If having an engine swap what are the chances of something going wrong with the car? I know its like saying "how long is a peice of string" but do things go wrong all the time or is it basicly as a car would be from the factory, no real problems. I mean do you need to keep going back to the garage and stuff to have general stuff fixed etc??? Sorry for the stupid question.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:51 pm
by bass mekanik
I would say it depends on how the conversion is done. any mechanic will THINK they could drop a 1.8T into the engine bay for example, but then all the associated headache and fabrication will be an arse to sort out no doubt.

I must admit I thought about it myself as soon as i bought the polo GTI as I know they arent very receiptive to tuning. factoring in all the cost I work it out to be about the following:

1.8turbo golf GTI engine (AGU engine) - £1000ish
ECU and wiring loom with 200bhp ready mapped- £1000ish from QPE
labour £300 - £800 depending on how easy/hard the conversion would be.
misc parts/fabrication - £300- £600

so at top end i think £3.5K would be reasonable.

but then i stopped and thought for a moment. £.5K on engine conversion. or sell GTI for £5K, add that £3.5K and buy a nice 200bhp as standard car for £8.5K??? easy choice for me- standard car.

dont forget associated costs- your insurance would go through the roof!

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:14 pm
by Polo-03
£3.5K??? is that about the avarge price for a 1.8t conversion? I know JBS do them, they can also supply the engine,clocks,looms etc does anyone know what sort of price they want for supply and fitting?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:31 pm
by ceedubya
alot depends on what work you can do yourself
i did nearly all of the work on my 9n 1.8t conversion, i paid a sparky about £300 to sort the wiring,
the wiring would have been easy with a emerald or haltec kit but i wanted to use the original TT wiring and ecu as i think thats the best way to go

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:20 pm
by Polo-03
Where you able to use all original VW engine mounts or did you have to fabricate your own? Hey it was alright for you ceedub cos you had a full TT to play about with!!! Jammy Git!!! :D

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:42 pm
by ceedubya
buying a full salvage car is the best way to do it if you can
i had to make a mounting plate to bolt onto the 6 speed box and that is bolted on to a modified polo gearbox mount
the other mounts are standard vag items

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:30 am
by PoloGTi
Polo-03 wrote:£3.5K??? is that about the avarge price for a 1.8t conversion? I know JBS do them, they can also supply the engine,clocks,looms etc does anyone know what sort of price they want for supply and fitting?
Type Only VW in a search engine and check them out. They quoted £4,000 for transplant into a GTi, extra poundage gets you 290 bhp in a Polo!