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will 195/55/14 toyos fit my 16v standard rims?
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:01 am
by chubbster
my tyres now are 185/50/14 and are pants, will 195/55/14 toyos fit my rims?
cheers people!
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:08 am
by chubbster
also someone said they got toyos for £45+fitment on here, where is that from and is it internet based to get fitment from a set garage?
i can get toyos from blackcircles.com at £52 each plus fitment at a local garage for £8 a corner. apparently toyos cant be just mail orderd from blackcircles they have to be fitted by an approved garage.
thanks
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:16 am
by toXXin
If you do this you'll find your tyres diameter is 32mm larger, which will throw your speedo out and will just be a waste of time.
Also
www.mytyres.net seems to be cheaper and they don't require specialists to fit them. I've never heard of that before!
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:44 pm
by jakethesnake
I don't know if you made a typing error with 185/50 or you do in fact have this size but the correct size for the 16V is 185/55-14.
By my calculation the 195/55 would only be 10mm bigger in diameter than the 185/55. So you should be fine using it. I've looked at buying Toyos myself in the past but they don't make the 185/55 only the 195/55.
So I've been using Yokohama A539's which I'm happy with but have heard they don't last too long.
Also I think 195's look too wide for 6" rims which are the 16V width.
What make tyres are on there at the moment ?.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:42 am
by chubbster
your right they are 185/55!
at the moment the fronts are michelin energy's and the rears marangoni heron's which i've never heard of. abit of a mis-match perhaps?
will it be ok putting the 195/55 on the 6" rims or could it cause problems?
i like the idea of the car having a bigger "footprint"
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:20 pm
by Speedlaw
Hmm...
I'd suggest waiting a bit until you've settled on a size (13 - 17") and a style, that way, you'd avoid buying too much rubber. Like I did.
The 195-55 sounds like they're going to look a bit bulky. The popular size seems to be 195-45-14, which is, admittedly, too small in diameter. The low sidewall make them look really good though. Still, I suggest waiting a bit if at all possible!
My € 0,02.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:14 pm
by jakethesnake
I agree with Alex in that the 195/55's will look a bit 'bulky' on the standard rims. In order to gain the fatter footprint you are after they really need to be on a 7" rim.
They will fit no problem but will bulge outside the rim a bit.
The 195/45-14 that Alex suggests are available from Toyo and would probably look ok on the standard rims but I wouldn't suggest using these unless you plan to lower it by at least 60mm as these would have a slightly smaller diameter than the standard 185/55 tyres.
I've had a few sets of the Michelins and although a long lasting tyre I have never been very impressed by the performance of them. As for the others

they sound very budget to me.
I would suggest a full set of Yokohama 185/55 on the standard rims or if you are set on Toyo's, then get 195/45-14 and plan to get a 60mm suspension kit in the not so distance future.
Just my 2p mind !
chris
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:20 am
by chubbster
thanks for all the advice!
im planning on keeping the standard wheels and not playing with the suspension for at least a year, till i graduate or fail horribly! being a student stops me modding. so the rubber i buy now wont go to much to waste thanks Alex
so i guess the toyos are out. i never normally listen to people with experience, i always think i know best and fail sadly! this time im going to follow the advice given.
i think i'll take the yoko's. i dont want a bulky look.
thanks toXXin for the link to mytyres.com, the site i normally use (blackcircles.com) doesnt seem to do the yoko's in my size and the prices for other tyres are a little bit more each corner
much appriciated eveyone

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:44 pm
by jakethesnake
You're welcome chubbster
I've bought two sets of Yokohama A539 from
http://www.mytyres.net this year.
Their prices fluctuate from day to day. I paid about £44 each in April and £47 in August.
I think they are a good looking tyre and I'm happy with the performance so far. Also they seem to sit on the standard rims nicely, more so than the Pirelli's I'm currently wearing out on the front.
Not all 185's will be the same as they will vary from each manufacturer.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:02 pm
by polo2k
it was me and nelson that got the toyos at inters for 45 quid each
them saying that they want the tyres fitted by an approved garage is absolute ****
the pirellis you have jake have prolly got silly amounts of ballencing wieghts righ? pirellis are like that
ps a larger diameter will raise the car and loose acceleration
oh and itll raise the roll centre etc
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:42 am
by chubbster
are your A539's any good in the wet?
they got abit slagged off in porka on the general board for wet weather conditions.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:34 pm
by jakethesnake
I've read that post myself. Most people seem to slate them for wet weather, I personally have never found a really good tyre for wet weather.
I like to push my car through bends when it's dry and have found the Yoko's very good for these conditions. If it's raining or damp conditions then I always drive completely different, ie slowly.
If you are worried about this you may like to try the Goodyear Eagle F1 which is available in 185/55 size. Everybody seems to rate this tyre.
They are however more expensive as they don't make an 'H' rated tyre only a 'V'.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:26 pm
by chubbster
its confusing isnt it? all these choices!
ive always been a buyer of toyos after a mate recommended them a couple of years back. cheap, good in both conditions and look ace. now with all this info im going round in circles!
thinking about selling the 16v and walking instead, but which boots should i buy?!?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 1:54 am
by jakethesnake
F1's are £63 from mytyres at the moment, so quite a bit more than the 539's.
Choosing a tyre is a confusing business no doubt and once you've got them you're stuck with them for some time.
Whatever you choose I'm sure a matched set of four will be noticeably better than your part worn Michelin's and budget tyres you have at the moment

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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 1:17 pm
by chubbster
cheers for the research! chris, ive got to get rid of the golf first. it goes in the trader on thursday £600 spares or repairs.
then new boots for the polo!
i'll let you know which ones i eventually go for!
thanks for the help everyone