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Just wanted to know what its like converting dual mass to single mass flywheels..

i heard theyre a bit crappy on gear change?

Hey bud,

I know this is an old'ish post, but seeing as no one has answered you on this yet, I'll share my experience as I've done the DMF to SMF conversion recently using the Valeo SMF kit for the 9N3 GTI as my DMF packed up and had about 5mm play per side

Difference between the DMF and SMF kit from my experience:
The actual clutch plate is bigger and more grippy (if I can put it like that).
It's a lot cheaper than the DMF kits as on the DMF kit, the flywheel is the expensive part with all the balancing weights, etc.
In the long run you can always replace the clutch (when it packs up) with a VR6 clutch kit (it's a straight fit) instead of sourcing a new DMF kit.
With the DMF kits, you have to replace the flywheel every time you replace the clutch, reason why it's so expensive.
You can feel a bit more vibrations. The DMF just evens out most of the vibrations, but I haven't noticed it that much though.
You can push out a lot more power safely on the SMF clutches as the DMF tends to slip. Even though I have read somewhere some of the guys that have done BT are still running on a stock DMF setup and have no issues, but how reliable it is I can honestly not say.

I have been driving with this SMF kit for about 600km (don't drive that much) so that the new kit can settle in and can not complain at all.

Hope the info helps.

--PanTheR11--

PanTheR11 wrote:Hey bud,

I know this is an old'ish post, but seeing as no one has answered you on this yet, I'll share my experience as I've done the DMF to SMF conversion recently using the Valeo SMF kit for the 9N3 GTI as my DMF packed up and had about 5mm play per side

Difference between the DMF and SMF kit from my experience:
The actual clutch plate is bigger and more grippy (if I can put it like that).
It's a lot cheaper than the DMF kits as on the DMF kit, the flywheel is the expensive part with all the balancing weights, etc.
In the long run you can always replace the clutch (when it packs up) with a VR6 clutch kit (it's a straight fit) instead of sourcing a new DMF kit.
With the DMF kits, you have to replace the flywheel every time you replace the clutch, reason why it's so expensive.
You can feel a bit more vibrations. The DMF just evens out most of the vibrations, but I haven't noticed it that much though.
You can push out a lot more power safely on the SMF clutches as the DMF tends to slip. Even though I have read somewhere some of the guys that have done BT are still running on a stock DMF setup and have no issues, but how reliable it is I can honestly not say.

I have been driving with this SMF kit for about 600km (don't drive that much) so that the new kit can settle in and can not complain at all.

Hope the info helps.

--PanTheR11--

hmm thanks for the info. Im just double minded about it. Just bought a 1.6tdi CR, thinking of doing SMF to that, but will ask the guys at shark performance when i go there for a remap

You dont need the SMF on the 1.6tdi. Its only really needed on powerful torquey cars.

TomG wrote:You dont need the SMF on the 1.6tdi. Its only really needed on powerful torquey cars.

im going to be remapping it next week with a DPF delete, so torque will rise quite a biiitttttt

True. But it still wont be putting out massive torque?

TomG wrote:True. But it still wont be putting out massive torque?

about 288/295 NM