I'm sharing with you a little victory. And a very big relief.
HAVE A LOOK HERE
https://streamable.com/zg5lfd
What his means is very significant. You see, this is a cluster with immo data from my 1.2 TDI.
With the ECU for a 1.6 TDI. And it's happy. It's very happy. Key is found and immobiliser is
MATCHED.
Story time!
So I want to tell you the significance of this. Having a matched immo for ECU/cluster helps a lot in starting your car.
And it has been a struggle to find the right solution.
You see, I'm putting a 1.6 TDI engine in a car that was born with a 1.2 TDI engine. Why? Because I can. Should I? No.
But why would you do such a thing? Because that's what I like to do.
Swapping an engine is easy. On my Karmann Ghia, it takes an hour to put in a new engine. And that includes taking out the old one.
And then it goes. Like nothing happened.
On a modern car, this is not so easy. My car is a Polo 6R 1.2 TDI from 2011. It has electronics, it has an immobiliser. It is complicated.
Let's start with the basics. Because I have kessy, I need the ECU to start the engine, not the ignition lock directly.
The Polo 6R has 1.6 TDI DSG (CAYB), only in the PR-7L3 (non-bluemotion) version. So the terminal 50 goes directly from T6 (ignition lock) to the starter motor. Terminal 50 is the Bosch name for the signal to start the engine. Like terminal 15 is the ignition (literally, as it powered the ignition coil), 30 is permanently live, 31 is ground. The list is very long. 45, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 56a, 58, 58a, 58d, 75.....
The Polo 6R 1.2 TDI
PR-7L6 has a different construction.
In this case, the ignition lock goes to the ECU via a small wire. The ECU then operates two starter relays, that send power to the starter motor.
So you cannot start until the clutch is depressed. AND you can do a little click of the starter position with the key, and the engine takes care of it all.
Now the kessy also utilizes this construction. You press the start button, ELV (steering column lock) tells the ECU to start, ECU closes the two relays and off we go, starter motor goes round.
So, for this reason, it's not possible to use the Polo 6R 03L906023MG (1.6 TDI CAYB + PR-7L3 + PR-G1C) ECU. It doesn't have the software to operate the starter relays.
So it's never going to start. And the PQ25-polo PR-7L6 ECU is only PR-G0C. So for manual. PR-G1C is for DSG.
I'm in trouble now, aren't I? So why don't you just take off the kessy? Well, that's not what I do. Sorry. So let's get complicated. So what can I do?
Well, I had a solution. I got myself a matching set of a KC ECU (beetle 5C) --> PR-7L6 + PR-G0C! With a cluster, ELV, 2 keys and kessy module.
Wait, didn't I just say G0C was manual? Yes... I can flash it with KE firmware. I have that. No issue. But such a FW doesn't exist for the 6R0 ECU (different hardware). Bummer.
So I could bolt the ELV to my car, transfer the immo data to my cluster and be a happy man. I have the man for this job, mr Slavik himself.
You see, mr. Slavik is a hero, he helped me to figure out a lot of things and he is paid not in euro's but in crates of beer. This is a fact.
I visited him a few times and even though my ideas are crazy,
he never said no.. This is the kind of people I need.
So I can have all the things I like to have:
- PQ25 ECU for 1.6 TDI CAY
C = TD
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- Kessy
- DSG gearbox
- 7L6
- GRA high
So I connected all the parts to my polo.
f**k, my dash is a f*****g christmas tree.
The ABS was very unhappy. My Bosch ESP9.0i of course doesn't understand what is happening. It is expecting a Polo 6R, Fabia 5J, Ibizia 6J or an Audi A1 8X pre-facelift.
And it is seeing a 2013 VW Beetle 5C (WVWZZZ16ZDM800039 is not a Polo VIN, definitely not my VIN).
So, out we go with the ABS coding. It's all zeros. And I could not come up with a new ABS coding, something I'm usually very good at.
So I was having a bad day.
And I went, f**k it, I'm having a Beetle ABS. So I bought a Beetle ABS unit, 1K0907379BS, from my favourite shop happyparts.
And I put it on the bench, connected cluster and ECU and I did find a code for it. I like coding ABS units. I never owned a car with a Mk60EC1 but I do know how to code it.
So that was the plan. My Polo was becoming a Beetle. All I had to do was...
- Put in the ECU
- Flash the ECU from KC to KE firmware for the DSG gearbox
- Swap ELV
- Transfer the immo data to my Amarok cluster
- Swap or code kessy unit
- Learn the keys
- Swap the ABS unit (so different plug, wheel sensors). I have it all here, by the way.
- Learn the ABS (I already verified that it will work with all my other systems like power steering, steering angle sender, etc).
Hey, small effort, right? I already put in the engine and gearbox, this is no hassle. I'm kessiichel, I can fix this... Just some wires and some coding. No big deal.
Then Mr Slavik (I already noted that he is paid in beer, right?) told me about a program to re-calculate the immo data of an ECU.
Until now I've always been told that this is not possible for Siemens PCR2.1. Only for Bosch EDC, where you can edit immo or make it immo-off.
PCR2.1 is more difficult and until now, everyone told me it's not possible. Or to f**k off.
But, there is a solution. It's this -->
https://skodapilot.com/2020/04/20/vag-immo-calculator/
So I got a sole KE ECU, send it to someone to read the flash (Slavik's KESS couldn't do it), send the flash to the developer of the program along with my immo data.
Then I got back the flash with my immo data in it, I sent the flash to the ECU reader and he flashed the flash to my ECU.
Are we still following?
Good.
So, now, let's see what we have:
- My Amarok cluster with Polo FW (already had that)
- Kessy ELV matched to Amarok cluster
- My own keys
- My own BCM
- My own kessy module
- My own ESP9.0i
- My own 1.6 TDI ECU with my own VIN. And GRA_High enabled in ECU flash.
I'm even as brave as I can say... this new ECU... is more or less
plug and play
(I probably still need to adjust the injectors and some basic settings)
So I only bought a few spare parts that I don't need anymore, all matching sets...
- 6R0 1.2 TDI ECU + cluster + key
- 5K0 1.6 TDI (DSG) ECU + cluster + key
- 8X0 1.6 TDI (DSG) ECU + cluster + BCM + gateway + key
- 5C0 1.6 TDI (manual) ECU + cluster + ELV + ABS + key (anyone willing to do their own kessy project?)
I guess I'll be selling a lot of stuff shortly
Big thanks to:
- Mr Slavik -->
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- VAG Solutions for flashing my ECU -->
https://www.facebook.com/people/VAG-Sol ... 322968594/
- Oleg Ivov for developing the immo calculator -->
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