Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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giannis20vt wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:09 am Wow, amazing job. Thanks for sharing.

I read on your last post "Then using ODIS-S online we tried to program, but due to new policy by VW, the used cluster reprogramming online was blocked."

I need a piece of information about that. Three or four months ago, i have tried to swap my Cluster on my 6C Polo. It wasn't a succefully procedure, we managed to remove the Component Protection, but we did couldn't manage to programm the remote keys. So we putted back my original Cluster. Nowdays i am planning to swap the BCM with a new one and after that i will try again to swap the Cluster. Will I have a problem trying to change the Cluster?
As far as I know, VW has blocked online programming of used clusters from year 2020 I think, I am not sure. Someone who knows can share the further details.

Your 6C is totally different from 6R. If you have successfully removed the CP then I think there is hope for you in swapping cluster. You somehow need to transfer immo data (CS/PIN etc..) from your existing cluster to the cluster you are planning to install, so that the immo data of ecu and cluster are matched and adapted and learning keys. Better to consult some experts with powerful programming tools like Abrites/ VVDI/ MaxiIM608. Nothing is impossible..

Good luck👍
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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Milestone achieved!!!

100000 km up...❤️....On a long journey...
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.... whose conclusion is uncertain ♾️ :mrgreen:

DSG7 DQ200 has been sublime. 💖 Even though it has earned bad reputation worldwide for its unreliability.😁

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Small updates:

New OEM logo from Polo 6 AW. Thanks to iichel🤝
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New OEM chrome Door handles:
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I purchased the silver coloured full set and got them repainted to body colour at dealer. The irony of this upgrade is that I had to import these door handles which are manufactured in my own country...😐 reason being the price, I got the full set at the cost of one door handle sold here.😃

Few more major upgrades coming up soon..😎

🙏
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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Nice!👌
Hope you will dazzle us with those major uprades.

🙏
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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Congratulations Patil 1,00,000 kms
Keep it up.
This number would definitely bring some peace for others with DQ200
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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ciclo wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:20 am Nice!👌
Hope you will dazzle us with those major upgrades.

🙏
Thank you dear Master :)

You've been instrumental in improvising my 6R to this level.. for which I am eternally greatful of you. 🙏
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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ag69 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:52 pm Congratulations Patil 1,00,000 kms
Keep it up.
This number would definitely bring some peace for others with DQ200
Thank you ag69 :wink:

Don't worry about DSG.. just enjoy it :P
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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New mod: High Beam Assist (HBA)-- Success!😎

Background:
I had previously installed a Skoda rapid windshield with square bracket for RLS with square type autodimming IRVM( see pictures below). Lately had few stone chip cracks on windshield. The windshield replacement was due for some time. I decided to install new windshield with round RLS bracket this time and the idea of retrofitting HBA was born.

I had to part away with this setup which worked well for me.👌
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The new type windshield(6RG845011AL NVB) was installed at dealer. This windshield has tinted sun strip with green glass.It was installed in latest facelifted Polo in India.
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HBA parts:

HBA Mirror+ covers:

I decided to buy new expensive frameless mirror from German store, even though used mirrors were available for reasonable prices. You want your IRVM to be perfect, as you frequently look at it while driving and any imperfections will stare at you all the time.😁
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Stalk:
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This one I bought used at a throw away price from a German seller. The sellers of both HBA mirror and stalk were unwilling to ship to India. Heartfelt thanks to my Romanian friend❤️, who helped me in getting both parts.

RLHS: 5K7 955 547
Bought from AliExpress, this was the last shipment I received from ali before it was banned in my country.😃
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Wiring: I consulted Master ciclo, who pioneered this retrofit painstakingly and showed the world that HBA was indeed possible in 6R👏😎
http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 55#p503577

Upon instructions from dear Master, I prepared the wiring harnesses for HBA.
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Modifying HBA mirror covers:

As the HBA mirror was not designed for Polo, obviously its covers won't suit Polo. Inspired by the firegrafik's post on drive2.. I used the covers of both HBA mirror and Polo mirror.
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The bottom cover of HBA mirror doesn't need any modifications.We take the middle cover of Polo and tweak it a bit to lock properly into HBA bottom cover.
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After tweaking, the Polo middle cover locks snugly into HBA bottom cover.
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I had to additionally tweak the Polo upper cap which fits into headliner. Also I had to retain the upper cap of my previous mirror to hide the hole I had made during previous IRVM installation.
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The final result.. very much acceptable😁👌
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RLHS fixed:
I did not had to do additional wiring for RLHS, the 3pin connector is same for both square & round RLS.

The HBA mirror uses 8 pin connector, my previous IRVM had 6 pin connector. So I bought 8 pin connector.
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The pinout of HBA mirror.
T8c/1=+15
T8c/2= GND
T8c/3= Can-h
T8c/4=*
T8c/5=*
T8c/6=Diode GND for dome light
T8c/7= No pin
T8c/8= Can-l
* = Probably output for autodimming side mirrors on select models.

I ran into an unexpected problem during T8 connector wiring. The T8 connector with wires plugged in refused to lock into HBA mirror coupler. The pins inside the HBA coupler are thick and wider for MQS pins mouth to lock in!! Sigh... hit a roadblock.🙁
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Lucky me.. The quadlock connector for aftermarket rear camera which I installed previously had wires with MQS terminals with wide mouth. 😃 I used them as repair wires and now the T8 connector locks perfectly into the HBA mirror coupler.😎
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Probably this is the correct terminal, but I couldn't find the OE part number.
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I got this end result after completion of wiring with mirror and RLHS installed.. I am happy with the outcome😊👌 The new frameless mirror is a welcome change to my cabin, adds class!
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After completing wiring, I activated address 20 in gateway list. Also activated BCM adaptation channels 53&54. Master ciclo provided me the BCM as well as HBA mirror coding for my installation, very kind of him...thank you dear master🙏
Latest autoscan after installation and coding:

Code: Select all

Saturday,27,August,2022,21:13:27:09269
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: MEXL15606GT048293   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 37 3C 44 55 5F 65 77

VIN: MEXL15606GT048293   Mileage: 104270km-64790miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 461B84FC
   Coding: 00250056232400080000
   Shop #: WSC 53863 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS021_VW25.rod
   VCID: 6D84C0CEAD13BD33149-8038
   VINID: 755A1C0451801979001080890C0D0C61A9

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6502  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501508317273
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01260 002 1048576
   VCID: 3A2E3B92A05DDA8BC1B-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BN    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2463422703C8461624724254C0800908
   Shop #: WSC 29230 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0B40AE56B3C71303AAD-805E

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 07022013470235
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA6F782F07536ABBD3-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 Q    HW: 6R0 907 044 Q
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0615  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 41DC4C7EC18B8953801-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 D    HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 8601 222180475
   Coding: 3AB02FF808A10400213806D17CCB9ED0F2C0670F604D30C0200400030800
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 2C020DCA5609743B437-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 547 
   Component: RLHS 200618 0  50  0107 
   Coding: 202800

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BH    HW: 6R0 959 802 BH  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU015041441050460
   Coding: 1400B3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BC    HW: 6R0 959 801 BC  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU014041441047765
   Coding: 0400B3

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5TA 959 442     HW: 5TA 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Serial number: 2731410180700922AG1B
   Coding: 270000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102580150623202239
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13202581150812164218
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 C    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0480  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331616005272
   Coding: 0001151011
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
   VCID: 372822A69FCFC7E33E5-8062

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Steuergerät für Lenksäulenelektronik-J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 171
                    Mileage: 104267 km
                    Date: 2022.08.27
                    Time: 20:44:17


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW0118WCJ
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 49CC545EF93B4113581-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RD 920 870 A    HW: 6RD 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0805  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 141C00
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 47C85266EF2FB7634E5-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0762  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 002304
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 688AB1DA8271981B67F-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 0404010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2E0607C26095062B6D3-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0805  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECBD29CFDAA0B71B-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 C    HW: 5Q0 907 686 C
   Component: HRE_Master    H12 0081  
   Serial number: 0529820662
   Coding: 03031202
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3D24308EBDF3EDB3E49-8068

   Lane change assistance control module 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 C    HW: 5Q0 907 685 C
   Component: HRE_Slave  H12 0081 
   Serial number: 0530916291          
   Coding: 030312

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014_VW12.rod
   VCID: 41DC4C7EC10B8953801-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0116000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77A8E2A6DF4F07E3FE5-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 680 F    HW: 5C0 035 680 F
   Component: MU-S-N-ER     H41 0478  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2U0986183
   Coding: 02620001FF00000011110001010808001F0100D6002001004E
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2412E5EA3E59BC7B8B7-8070

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 BC    HW: -----------
   Component: MRM2 2021  --- 1520 
   Serial number: --------------------

1 Fault Found:
15360768 - Component Protection 
          U1101 00 [009] - Active
          [Anti-theft protection - component protection active (0xEA6300)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 171
                    Mileage: 104267 km
                    Date: 2022.08.27
                    Time: 20:44:16

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.3 V


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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
   Serial number: 40000000058983
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
   VCID: 372822A69FCFC7E33E5-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:28, VBatt start/end: 13.5V/13.5V)-----------

Finally got the HBA icon in IC and I say HBA works perfectly under predefined conditions.👌
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I got an persistant error hanging in BCM after coding change for HBA.
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After little experimenting, it turns out that BCM sees the new RLHS installed but swears by above error and demands the new RLHS(humidity sensor) to be on the Linbus. So after activating BCM Byte8, bit5.. BCM is happy.😃

This new RLHS (5K7 955 547) doesn't has label files for coding in VCDS, so it remains a grey area to code it wishfully. My previous Square RLS had all the label files so that I could code it to my taste. And also I have my reservations regarding the benefit of having added humidity sensor in our 6R. I can say from experience that the similar RLHS 5Q0 955 547C installed on MQB cars clears the fog from windshield instantaneously.

I made a short video of HBA working, sorry for the video quality and shaking as I was recording with left hand and driving with right hand.😛
Due to crappy camera of my phone, the OE bixenons output looks dim in the video, in reality the output bright. :mrgreen:


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Unrelated:

My little 6R is nearing the end of mod cycle and reaching its logical conclusion. Everything possible in 6R has been achived. I don't hesitate to say that I am proud of my 6R, a gem 💎 crafted with my own hands with the help of wonderful friends.🤘 There is one penultimate mod remaining, which I am going to finish soon. Sooner I am going to part away with my little 6R🙁.... will talk about this more in my last mod😁 After sleepless nights, may be I have found a worthy successor to my little 6R.😎 Details coming soon :wink:

My next penultimate mod for which dear iichel is helping me a lot.
PR -1KT + 8Q3

Namaste🙏
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Post by til3tsio »

Great update on you car,
made almost the same update to my car a few weeks ago .

*also looking for labels on the same sensor.

You have a great polo , but all good things come to an end.
We are waiting for the next project car ! Lets hope for the best !
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Post by ciclo »

Bravely, Ross-tech made/make labels based on the factory coding for RLS, which unambiguously code the RLS (or the many different acronyms used for these sensors - RLHS, RLHSS, RLFS, etc).
It is a good starting point, although not for all and the infinite models that the VW Group sells.
In this way, the thresholds of light, rain and humidity are perfectly defined as they are from factory (Bytes 1 and 2).

On the other hand, these VCDS labels for RLS sensors allow you coding the Byte 0 in case you want to activate the 'Rain closing' function, the 'Rain Light' function (other function of Auto-lights), or the 'Highway Light' function.
But it is important to note that all these functions for PQ, or for example, many other functions in MQB are completely dependent on the BCM -and subsystems- and its capabilities (coding/adaptation).
In the MQB there are quite a few BCM adaptation channels dedicated to these sensors that directly activate the functions, ... in fact, the coding in the RLS of some of the functions mentioned above is not even necessary.

Much has been written in many forums about these sensors, and sometimes, depending on the level of equipment installed -SW/HW-, activating any of these or other functions not mentioned, is a real nightmare in terms of the procedures used. :lol:

As you know, I have always been fortunate to find the right procedures to activate all of them on any platform... including the PQ25, mentioning that I never struggled/fought with light and rain thresholds.
It is logical that everyone has their personal tastes for these thresholds, but believe me that the factory originals codings are the best, ... even if you think that the lights come on too soon or things like that (the factor of being seen, is also very important).

VAS, original tool, only offers binary or hexadecimal coding without any info/description for these sensors.

Enjoy your HBA mirror!🎉

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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

Post by patil »

Thank you for your detailed insight into these RLHS sensors, I always get something to learn from you everytime dear Master.👌

What is your experience with humidity sensor on our PQ25, does it work or just a placebo effect?
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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I summarize it for you: ⬇ :lol:

Little or not at all effective in a vehicle without a Start/Stop system.
We could say that these vehicles (7L3) do not need the humidity sensors because the air conditioning system never stops working or is not influenced by the reduction of the established performance.

Humidity sensors serve to alleviate the circumstantial conditions of fogging on the windshield, etc, in vehicles with the Start/Stop system when the engine Stops and the 'vehicle' manages the consumption of electrical energy, which is drastically reduced.

The 6R air conditioning system called 'Climatronic' is good, but it is mono-zone, so its effectiveness is conditioned for demanding tasks. More advanced air conditioning systems, bi-zone, tri-zone, etc, are more effective in these 'automatic' tasks.

If the climatic and environmental conditions are ideal for the misting of the glass, there is no air conditioning system (bi-zone, tri-zone, etc.) of any type of vehicle (7L3 w/o S/S, or 7L6 with S/S) that is capable of avoid this circumstance in automatic way, ...no matter how many humidity sensors the vehicle has installed.

Look at your index finger or any other that is useful in case you have lost it (not too much, your wife can think you are stupid), now look at the climate control buttons, and if you see that there is a button for the windshield (MAX), press it if necessary.
The fact that there is such a button or the one dedicated to the rear window makes us reason about the defogging of the windows and consequently about the effectiveness and tasks of the humidity sensors.

Logically, the algorithms for these functions improve with the passing of time, also the ideas of where and how many humidity sensors to install.
Having two humidity sensors, one inside and one outside, is more effective.
I installed an additional external humidity sensor in my wife's Golf (with S/S system), which together with the factory internal humidity sensor control these climatic/environmental circumstances more effectively.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/csb-8XHtj ... autoplay=1

For example, due to the great efficiency of the Golf's bi-zone climate control, humidity condensation inside the windows is faster than in 6R, but since I installed this external humidity sensor, said humidity condensation has been considerably reduced.

Finally, comment that in the climatic zone where I live, one of the best in the world 😁, these sensors are not essential, so they do not cause me any additional concern, it just seems curious, entertaining, endearing, and even fun.
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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ciclo wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:31 am I summarize it for you: ⬇ :lol:

I couldn't have asked for more lucid explanation Master.👌😁

I experienced everything you wrote above on a long rainy drives with my family in my new car.. another R...💎💖😍
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Going to introduce to you all shortly.. 😋
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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Welcome to the MQB Club, it's great!!😍
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Congratulations Patil!!!!
Can I guess ?
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Re: Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD

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I think it is t-roc
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