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Hi there guys,

I have a 6R 2010 1.6 blue 145hp with oem drl in the lower bumper H7 headlights, I just bought and installed the full LED headlights of a 6C. I looks great !!!
I installed the headlights with adapter from 10 to 14 pin, without any additional cables to the BCM (don’t ask me why).
The seller made sure that everything is going to work perfect with out malfunctions or error.

And it those.

Butt he was wrong;

High beam = works, even without contact or ignition
Low beam = works
Parking lights = nope
DRL = always on 100% with contact and/or ignition
Small lights = same as DRL

I know that with de bi-xenon the drl does dim when de low beam is on, butt even then it’s on 100%.

Guys (iichel or firegrafik or CNK or Vicki) can you help me with this.

Here some pictures of the BCM, headlights and adapters.

You have to install the 4 missing wires from the BCM to the T14 headlight connectors, two for each headlight.

New wires:
- DRLs x2
- Parking lights x2

In the following diagram/link you can see the correspondence for DRLs and Parking lights.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing


It is necessary to code the BCM, post a full Autoescan.

I suppose the nicest way would be to upgrade your bcm to a type that supports LED headlights. This would be a 7E0 bcm that will require some additional wiring to make that work.

There is some work involved in this. Installing the wiring, purchasing a bcm, coding it all with vcds etc.

There are some easier ways of doing it but not as nice or as functional as the OEM way of replacing your current BCM with a fully compatible one.

iichel wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:39 pm I suppose the nicest way would be to upgrade your bcm to a type that supports LED headlights. This would be a 7E0 bcm that will require some additional wiring to make that work.

There is some work involved in this. Installing the wiring, purchasing a bcm, coding it all with vcds etc.

There are some easier ways of doing it but not as nice or as functional as the OEM way of replacing your current BCM with a fully compatible one.

+1

I think LED drl need newer BCM to work like from factory.
And it seems to me, the guy writing above is the master in making wiring looms for BCM Max

When you put wires to BCM then you will be able to code them correctly and (after install sensor) turn on Coming Home/Leaving Home:

There is no need for a bcm max wiring (088b is already bcm max for pr 7L6 with start/stop). There is however a need for can gateway replacement (removal)

Hi there guys,

Thanks for your reply I really appreciated it.

@ciclo; the previous drl where in the lower bumper oem, so I can just take both wires from the lower bumper to the 14 pins connector.
About the parking lights; can’t I take these from the 10 pin connector to the 14 pin connector ?

@iichel; what do you mean with there is no reason for bcm max swap, pr 7L6with start/stop ? Removal of can gateway ?

@CNK; I have the rls and dimming mirror installed works perfectly, what do you mean with working like from factory.

Guys I really appreciated it, thanks for the effort.

I just want it to work properly
Parking lights
Dimming of the drl by low beam

Do you what a better picture of adapters.

Full scan following

You'll have to install a 7e0 937 090 /a/b/c etc bcm and adapt your wiring in such a way that the external gateway can be removed and you'll use the internal gateway of the bcm.

Ozzy wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:09 pm Hi there guys,

Thanks for your reply I really appreciated it.

@ciclo; the previous drl where in the lower bumper oem, so I can just take both wires from the lower bumper to the 14 pins connector.
About the parking lights; can’t I take these from the 10 pin connector to the 14 pin connector ?

I just want it to work properly
Parking lights
Dimming of the drl by low beam

Do you what a better picture of adapters.

Full scan following

No, in 6R the parking/side lights on each side are joined by the same wire. In other words, a wire for front and rear parking lights of the right side (T73a/40) and another for front and rear of the left side (T73a/41). Your current installation.

When installing LED/bixenon headlights, a wire is necessary for each parking light.
Easy, ... remove/isolate the original wires in the T10 connectors or in new T14 connectors of new adapters for front parking lights, and install NEW 0.5mm2 wires for the front parking lights on the new T14 connectors as indicated in the diagram (from BCM to T14)

@ciclo thx very much for clearing it up about the parking lights !!
What do you think about the DRL ? I can take them from the lower bumper and place it 14 pins connector like the diagram. But when I take it to contact one (without starting the engine) they light up, and there is no difference when I take the light switch to the first position...

Like iichel already said my bcm is already Max There is no need for a bcm max wiring (088b is already bcm max for pr 7L6 with start/stop). There is however a need for can gateway replacement (removal)

yes you can take the DRL from the bumper and connect it to T14/10

Ozzy wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:09 pm what do you mean with working like from factory.

I meant that the best solution is to connect everything through BCM. In Poland I have seen many cars with Bi-Xenons connected by adapters and in all cases there were problems (with DRL lights, power of light bulbs, cornering lights etc.).

I understand !! bcm part number ??

like promised the full scan:

Wednesday,31,July,2019,17:59:12:00006
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY071691 License Plate: 31-7-2019
Mileage: 206540km-128338mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6R0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 61

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY071691 Mileage: 206540km-128338miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 EP HW: 03L 906 023 D
Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H13 9972
Revision: --H13--- Serial number:
Coding: 00114016002401080000
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023EP 003009
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023EP_003.rod
VCID: 78FF5EE2C3D34D8420-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AJ HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 210228E3417400B3842B14EB82D200521100
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 0603201AB5272B7422-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H12 0812
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 387F9EE28B538D84E0-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 088 B HW: 6R0 937 088
Component: BCM PQ25 Re4 H46 0321
Revision: BU046001 Serial number: 0328 212100287
Coding: 3CB029BF68210000212001F03CAB9ED0FF8067FF7E020001200000000000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 3D718FF6A471A8AC33-8068

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 251111 05 54 0403
Coding: 072B2D

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R HW: 6R0 959 801 R Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 0912
Serial number: KU0-KU010.08.1011100
Coding: 48BC30

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T HW: 6R0 959 802 T Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 0912
Serial number: KU0-KU028.07.1010261
Coding: 48BC30

2 Faults Found:
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 76
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 205497 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.12.13
Time: 22:43:10

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 94
Reset counter: 213
Mileage: 205492 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.12.13
Time: 22:34:57


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag007 H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX021JSZ8
Coding: 003037
Shop #: WSC 23484 000 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 4A9BD42AEDBF0F1486-801E

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3572SRB40000C7D1212$

Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3582SRB40000C9C0FA7O

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB405R6T8MI2OQZ

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB40616T8MID8VB

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 F HW: 6R0 920 861 F
Component: KOMBI H04 0304
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140A00
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
VCID: 387F9EE283538D84E0-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 6R0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 530 B HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H28 0020
Revision: H28 Serial number: 070710F1001823
Coding: 7D021C00080000000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 326BACCAAD2F67D4DE-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0304
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6ADB74AA8D7FEF14A6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 A
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V275
Coding: 11210
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2E53B8BAED174334BA-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 534 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Batt.regelung H28 0020
Serial number: 070710F1001823
Coding: 030B1A5A
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 74E76AD2D7BB29E40C-8020

Component: J367-BDM H07 0125
Serial number: 00000000002790329924

No fault code found.

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Bcm part number:
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 088 B HW: 6R0 937 088 B

Like already said, this bcm needs to be replaced. It does not support LED headlights. More specifically, the LED DRL pwm is not the right value, and it's missing a pair of pins to T14/14. The eeprom probably also doesn't support LED dipped beam.

@iichel thx, I know my part number, I meant which bcm (part number) do I need. With which letter has it to end ?

Can somebody tell me what I have to do for the BCM swap, tutorial ? Manual ?