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Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:02 pm
by fazzy
Today I decided to do a dyno run. Well... two in fact.
First run was stock standard, no modifications, stock intake, stock ehxaust, Orlen 95 octane fuel.
Second run is with a box. No other mods.
Stand-by for the results... :)

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:33 pm
by OomStu_ZA
standing by over

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:45 pm
by Ima
Waiting :D

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:54 pm
by fazzy
Well... here it is 😊

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:09 pm
by OomStu_ZA
Thank you.

Forgive me, its torque only? no KW? Or am I just being an old man and not reading correctly :P

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:22 pm
by fazzy
OomStu_ZA wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:09 pm Thank you.

Forgive me, its torque only? no KW? Or am I just being an old man and not reading correctly :P
Howzit Oom :)
Red curve is the power curve.
Red numbers are the power numbers in KM (Polish for HP or PS)
208 PS standard (divide by 1,36 to get kW) so its 153 kW
228 PS with a box. (168 kW)

Blue numbers and curves are the torque.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:56 pm
by OomStu_ZA
fazzy wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:22 pm
OomStu_ZA wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:09 pm Thank you.

Forgive me, its torque only? no KW? Or am I just being an old man and not reading correctly :P
Howzit Oom :)
Red curve is the power curve.
Red numbers are the power numbers in KM (Polish for HP or PS)
208 PS standard (divide by 1,36 to get kW) so its 153 kW
228 PS with a box. (168 kW)

Blue numbers and curves are the torque.
Dankie boet :P Clears all that up nicely.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:32 pm
by monkeyhanger
That's not your GTI is it Fazzy?

What box is on there to only add 20ps and 33Nm? Is that one of those TUV approved boxes that is very cautious with the power increase?

Interesting to see how much earlier peak power kicks in on the Boxed run, but also, power for both runs fall off a cliff above 5750rpm - which begs the question...why do VW have the car change up at 6100rpm when hammering it?

It's annoying that if you put your foot down hard at 45mph, the box will kick back to 5500rpm in 2nd where the car has run out of puff and then change up to 3rd, rather than skipping 2nd and going straight to 3rd - dumb programming of DSG changes by VW.

I'd be interested to see a dyno of a 2018 GTI+ (no GPF) vs a 2019 one (with GPF). When I drive the wife's 2019 GTI on occasion, hers feels like mine does in Normal mode, mine is so much livelier in the mid range.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:09 pm
by fazzy
monkeyhanger wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:32 pm That's not your GTI is it Fazzy?
Yes it is.
monkeyhanger wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:32 pm What box is on there to only add 20ps and 33Nm? Is that one of those TUV approved boxes that is very cautious with the power increase?
Yes it is. All TUV approved. I will analyse the dyno graph with the company and see if more power can be achieved from this unit and staying within manufacturers limits.
https://www.powerhouse-tuning.de/
monkeyhanger wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:32 pm Interesting to see how much earlier peak power kicks in on the Boxed run, but also, power for both runs fall off a cliff above 5750rpm - which begs the question...why do VW have the car change up at 6100rpm when hammering it?

It's annoying that if you put your foot down hard at 45mph, the box will kick back to 5500rpm in 2nd where the car has run out of puff and then change up to 3rd, rather than skipping 2nd and going straight to 3rd - dumb programming of DSG changes by VW.

I'd be interested to see a dyno of a 2018 GTI+ (no GPF) vs a 2019 one (with GPF). When I drive the wife's 2019 GTI on occasion, hers feels like mine does in Normal mode, mine is so much livelier in the mid range.
I think VW went the easy route to limit the power on the Polo and just limited the boost at certain level. They left the DSG alone, so yes... it's really irritating when the downchange happens like you mentioned it. Probably not many people drive at very high speeds, but it is even worse at the change between 4th and 5th gear which happens at around 195 km/h (120 mph) A remap can solve this problem, but then we know about other consequences.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:19 pm
by fazzy
OomStu_ZA wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:56 pm Dankie boet :P Clears all that up nicely.
Oom, do you know what my number plate refers to? 😉

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:43 pm
by Ima
fazzy wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:54 pm Well... here it is 😊
Hi fazzy. Is your car with gpf or without?

Cheers

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:01 pm
by OomStu_ZA
fazzy wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:19 pm
OomStu_ZA wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:56 pm Dankie boet :P Clears all that up nicely.
Oom, do you know what my number plate refers to? 😉
I dont sorry. When I first saw it earlier I have to admit it got me thinking anyways,.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:08 pm
by monkeyhanger
Ima wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:43 pm
fazzy wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:54 pm Well... here it is 😊
Hi fazzy. Is your car with gpf or without?

Cheers
GTIs built before Aug 18 didn't have them as standard. Although depending on where you are, you can do a delete without being in trouble with the law. Mine came without a d it feels somewhere between 5 and 10% more powerful than the wife"s 2019 model.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:34 pm
by fazzy
Ima wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:43 pm
Hi fazzy. Is your car with gpf or without?

Cheers
it’s with GPF. Production May 2019.

Re: Let’s do a dyno run in a GTi

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:42 pm
by fazzy
OomStu_ZA wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:01 pm
I dont sorry. When I first saw it earlier I have to admit it got me thinking anyways,.
Daar is ’n dorpie in die Vrystaat waar al ons motors het sulke nommers gehad 😁😉