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Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:48 pm
by Jim78
Hi guys
I got a polo 6R 2010. My car has OEM rear pdc and OPS.
Now I changed my front and rear bumper and full exhaust.
See before picture:
After picture:
Now this front bumper has pdc holes so I added my Passat 3C sensors and painted toghether with the pumper.
Now I want to make it work. And search on some topics but I did not find all questions.
The polo 6R had no OEM front pdc so need to be creative and it seems to be possible.
I contact the guys from carsystems.pl.
The got a upgrade set. But pretty expensive. So I order the wire set and buzzer from them and order the 8K module on eBay.
My car already got rear pdc and OPS. So less work [emoji28].
Are there any guys on this topic who retrofit this upgrade please let me know
Gr Jim
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Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:23 pm
by RUM4MO
I've done that, but not on a Polo, on a B8 Audi S4, I have VCDS so recoded the infotainment system to accept that also the CAN Gateway probably.
What I bought from another supplier was the front bumper cable, and the front to rear cable. Then bought a used buzzer, used 8 channel controller and a used switch, the sensors I bought new from various places.
I'm guessing that you bought a used controller that was the 8 channel equivalent of your 4 channel one so it should not need coding.
The only part that was not included in this upgrade, was tying the front side into the CAN wiring, so I'd think that my set up will never detect what/where a front failure is coming from.
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:37 pm
by iichel
Yes I've done it... what do you want to know?
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:17 pm
by Jim78
iichel wrote:Yes I've done it... what do you want to know?
I need to know wich button will work ?
Do you got a scan?
And do you got coding ?
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Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:22 pm
by iichel
Old scan but I think it'll do
Code: Select all
Saturday,19,May,2018,19:24:43:11868
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(VirtualBox)
VCDS Version 18.2.0.3 HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY225654 License Plate:
Mileage: 69800km-43371mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2B 2E 37 44 47 55 56 57
61 69 6C 77
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBYxxxxx Mileage:
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA) Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B HW: 03P 907 425
Component: R3 1.2l TDI H06 9980
Revision: 12005001 Serial number:
Coding: 00114036033401080000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001043
ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
VCID: 270B06DDAF6FF1FF132-8073
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AS HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
Component: ESP9.0i front H02 0002
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 21DD4885432500C5841A126EC25500521505
Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00138
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFFB2-805B
No fault code found.
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6RA 959 654 HW: 6RA 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H02 0020
Serial number: 090465LBH0000C
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005002
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFFB2-805B
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E HW: 5K0 959 434
Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202
Revision: 00092000 Serial number: 0346244897
Coding: 030C0C
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
VCID: 372BD69D7FCF617F832-8063
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H12 0812
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 3829D5A172516E078A8-806D
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733
Revision: B9080001 Serial number: 0771 092150183
Coding: 3CB02FF828CB2400933906E2FFEB9FD0808260EF608D78D0B0A050030820
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 688945E162713E87DA8-803D
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
Component: RLS 140415 03 37 0059
Coding: 0380DD
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD HW: 6R0 959 801 BD Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8611
Serial number: KU0KU011111300010103
Coding: 0200A3
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF HW: 6R0 959 802 BF Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8611
Serial number: KU0KU007111300016463
Coding: 1000AB
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 C HW: 6C0 959 442 C
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H04 0103
Serial number: 29160000978830096203
Coding: A80000
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 B HW: 6R0 959 811 B
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 0803
Serial number: KU0-KU008.06.0910897
Coding: 08BC32
Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B HW: 6R0 959 812 B
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 0803
Serial number: KU0-KU004.06.0913330
Coding: 08BC32
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L HW: 7N0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0106
Revision: -------- Serial number: 28231422402620
Coding: 318001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS_VW25.rod
VCID: 3B23CAAD43E7451F67A-806F
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX0142TCE
Coding: 00314D
Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 4ACD9F691C3DEC97ECC-801F
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB40650BI7U48C8
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB405J09RECEOUJ
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB405T0BTBEF9G7
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBEKPFQ
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A HW: 6R0 920 870 A
Component: KOMBI H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
VCID: 3333E28D6BB78D5FBFA-8067
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733
Revision: B9080001
Coding: 042200
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 688945E162713E87DA8-803D
No fault code found.
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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G HW: 7E0 857 511 E
Component: FLA H10 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 040400E200000100000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
VCID: 2E05F3F98095A0B7D04-807B
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000007
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6A8D3FE97CFD0C97CCC-803F
No fault code found.
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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B HW: 5K0 905 861 B
Component: ELV-PQ35 H20 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 11000256123005
Coding: 4100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
VCID: 2F3BEEFD879FA9BFDB2-807B
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G HW: 5N0 035 342 G
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7666620365
Coding: 010100
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2B03FAEDB307D59FF7A-807F
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E HW: 1T0 035 686 H
Component: RNS-MID H26 6276
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
Coding: 00070002010000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 3635DB9978459877984-8063
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V15 8515
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11221
Shop #: WSC 12345
VCID: 2F3BEEFD8E5FA9BFDB2-807B
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Address 47: Sound System (R12) Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C HW: 5C6 035 456 C
Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831
Revision: -------- Serial number: EAA098C0000052
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4 001001
ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4.rod
VCID: 280905E1A271FE871A8-807D
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0192000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77AB169D3F4FA17F432-8023
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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E HW: 1T0 035 686 H
Component: RNS-MID H26 6276
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
Coding: 00070002010000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 3635DB9978459877984-8063
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V15 8515
No fault code found.
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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: None
Part No SW: 3C0 919 148 B HW: 3C0 919 148
Component: R78 DTV-JP 0250
Revision: R0H14000 Serial number: 80100800042102
Coding: 0000816
Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
VCID: 280905E1AEF1FE871A8-807D
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 919 805
Component: R204 TVKLeser 0010
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 534 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: Batt.regelung H80 0733
Serial number: 0771 092150183
Coding: 030F1A5A
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 688945E162713E87DA8-803D
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 HW: 6C0 915 181
Component: J367-BDM H08 0223
Serial number: 61083A44504351928092
No fault code found.
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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 E HW: 1K0 907 383 E
Component: Anhaenger H07 0080
Revision: 3A002002 Serial number: 00000116932377
Coding: 0100000100000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2F3BEEFD871FA9BFDB2-807B
No fault code found.
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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 441 HW: 7E0 907 441
Component: J772__Rearview 0040
Revision: 00H08000 Serial number: 525PA8-J060533
Coding: 0030115
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 65974CD5996323EFE1E-8031
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E HW: 3C8 035 730 E
Component: Telefon 025 0983
Revision: -------- Serial number: 35502105254406
Coding: 020100000100010000000101
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
ROD: EV_UHVPremi.rod
VCID: 25170CD5D563E3EF21E-8071
No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:27, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/14.3V)-----------
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:36 pm
by Jim78
Is this button for the 6R , because the 6C button seems to be smaller
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:37 pm
by iichel
Jim78 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 9:36 pm
Is this button for the 6R , because the 6C button seems to be smaller
Yes it is. The 6C button is square, more or less. This one is rectangular
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:55 pm
by Jim78
Thanx , I also got the same module.
Some last quastions
The button that you use will it connect to my wire with nr 4D0971636A.
This same wire has two wires that come out of this connector, the grey and brown. On the sticker it says brown to the ground. That is no problem to find it. But the grey it says illumination ( verlichting), but were is the best place to connect this?
- Brown and grey cable coming from connector
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:27 pm
by iichel
Any of the other buttons next to it
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:55 am
by Jim78
Ok thnx, then this side.
The blue and yellow cable, how do I need to read this. It says both pin16 pdc
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:55 am
by RUM4MO
No, it says that these wires go to pin 4 and pin 13 on a connector that has 16 pins and it plugs into the PDC.
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:57 am
by iichel
I'd say you'll have to plug it into the existing connector of your 4K system, like RUM4MO says.
Re: Front PDC
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 6:42 pm
by Jim78
Hi guys
Today just received the last part, the park switch.
So tomorrow morning I wil start this upgrade.
I did find this topic and it shows that this guy used a other way to get wiring from inside car to engine space to front bumper
https://www.motor-talk.de/forum/retrofi ... tml?page=0
Does someone else has a other idea to get the wiring from inside to front bumper sensors.
Gr Jim
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Re: Front PDC
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:50 pm
by Jim78
Today installed but not working perfect
The illumination light suddenly die not go out.
The peeps and sensors working but no OPS Wen I put gear in R. Only if I put it in Neuteal after it was in the R
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Re: Front PDC
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:53 pm
by iichel
autoscan?