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Re: BCM Max Transporter 2013

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I light of hope finally 8)

https://youtu.be/ZbudBbFmMTU?feature=shared

Kessy entry spouse to be fully working
I am currently working on a solution for the handles
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Re: BCM Max Transporter 2013

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Beautiful, well done, that's a real success. So now you have keyless entry and keyless exit? Brilliant.
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Re: BCM Max Transporter 2013

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Yes, I will try now to make keyless start work
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Re: BCM Max Transporter 2013

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Update regrading kessy..
I have got my ELV working
Kessy Entry is also working
the final step was to repin old ignition switch

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D1 => T7/5 (starter relay)
D2 => T7/3 (starter relay)
D3 => t9g/5 (Terminal 15 relay)
D4 => T16v/7 (ELV)
D5 => t9g/3 (Terminal 15 relay)
D6 => t9m/1 (Terminal 75 relay)

after repining I got 2 faults, 1 in BCM and the other in ELV

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Friday,03,November,2023,14:21:13:22797
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-NET2 CB: 0.4643.5
Data version: 20231027 DS351.0
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VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH036544   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 13 14 15 17 19 20 25 2B 37 3C 47 55 5F
          61 65 77 0B

VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH036544   Mileage: 304050km-188927miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GH    HW: 03L 907 309 M
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H44 9977  
   Revision: 26H44---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: B171D454
   Coding: 01114012234400080000
   Shop #: WSC 43690 085 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019GH 004007
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019FM_003.rod
   VCID: 77A086CB4F48D4621E9-8022
   VINID: 9E606AAAA1D8A946000C6144105E5FB8A3

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 Q    HW: 7E0 907 379 N
   Component: ESC           H06 0133  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62787000000113
   Coding: 307E4098256586840C7A027AA486616FF9F555
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2_011.rod
   VCID: 40D22D175A0653DA6F3-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 10082013470288
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EAE93EF6072E52A5DF-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 H    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 093 1305  
   Revision: 00093000    Serial number: 0467921560
   Coding: 032C0C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02720
   ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
   VCID: 3A265FFF3CDA090A217-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BM    HW: 7E5 907 047 BM
   Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001010    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 7BA89AFB7360F0027A1-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 E    HW: 7E0 937 090 E
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H84 0772  
   Revision: B9084001    Serial number: 2502 306190145
   Coding: 2AB03D3E4EFF201281280EC17EEB9FDDF88E6600608D79C072E4503F0860
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2D0C64A3FD14AEB2B45-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 230916 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0228EE

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801     HW: 7E0 959 801   Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802     HW: 7E0 959 802   Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A    HW: 7E0 959 442 A
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103 
   Serial number: 39180000000570018056
   Coding: B4FFFF

1 Fault Found:
03444 - Ignition Starter Switch 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:46


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 C    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0480  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331817601496
   Coding: 0041155001
   Shop #: WSC 21890 003 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
   VCID: 372046CB0FC81462DE9-8062

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [Steuerger t f r Lenks ulenelektronik-J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:45


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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7E0 907 572 
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211  
   Serial number: 1909180453A6EF Dataset Number: ACC_MRRevo1 0001
   Coding: 00004000FE0779
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
   VCID: 363E4BCF08C2ED6AC5F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels:. 3C0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0071  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 12030906320002
   Coding: 030180
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 2700968BDFE884E24E9-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 D    HW: 7E0 959 655 D
   Component: VW10Airbag00G 008 0016  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003PH0013MB$ Dataset Number: 7E0003V____ 0735
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003047
   Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 372046CB0FC81462DE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 980 S    HW: 7E0 920 980 S
   Component: KOMBI         H04 1109  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E230B00
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3B285AFB33E030023A1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 E
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H84 0772  
   Revision: B9084001    
   Coding: 04220F
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 6882D5B712764B9A873-803C

1 Fault Found:
03406 - Control Module for Battery Monitoring 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:02:29


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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 010100E200000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2E0E63AFF092D5AA8DF-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 1109  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A86AFBF0CFA798A917-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000305204001
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 30327DD7EAA6C35A9F3-8064

1 Fault Found:
1048835 - Terminal S 
          B11A5 11 [00001001] - Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:46

                    ELV State: 54
                    Information Clamps: 71 60
                    CoCo State: B0 01
                    WFS State: 67 1A
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Voltage: 68


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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 2Q0 907 686 B    HW: 2Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE3_Kl15_Mst H06 0150  
   Serial number: 14520003983159  Dataset Number: V03935303MB 0001
   Coding: 529524A0
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHellaGen3Kl15 002001
   ROD: EV_HREntryHellaGen3Kl15.rod
   VCID: 392440F339DC021228D-806C

   Lane change assistance control module 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 2Q0 907 685 B    HW: 2Q0 907 685 B
   Component: HRE3_Kl15_Slv  H06 0150 
   Serial number: 14520003959660      

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R184)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 035 466     HW: 3AA 035 466 
   Component: KonzernAmp12K H03 6904  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: A1108A00007925 Dataset Number: 360050v____ 0004
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1 001001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6D8CA4A33D146EB2F45-8038

2 Faults Found:
9463315 - Rear Left Treble Speaker 
          B1066 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:46

9463827 - Rear Right Treble Speaker 
          B1068 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:46


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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 C    HW: 6R0 907 357 B
   Component: AFS-ECU       005 0050  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: -------------- Dataset Number: V03600097E0 0001
   Coding: 0F46020001000000
   Shop #: WSC 02748 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRCC 002006
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRCC.rod
   VCID: 3A265FFF3CDA090A217-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 680 G    HW: 5C0 035 680 G
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H41 0480  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2U1668085 Dataset Number: V00000000VW 0001
   Coding: 0645000FBE00000011110006010D08001F0103D401200100CE
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VN75.rod
   VCID: 251C9C83A56496F27C5-8070

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 820 DC    HW: -----------
   Component: MRM DL2 23/24  --- 2010 
   Serial number: --------------------

4 Faults Found:
1553 - Function Restriction 
          B200D F0 [00001001] - due to Internal Communcations Error
          [Function restriction due to internal communication error: optical drive (fitted)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:58

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V

1555 - Check Software Version Management 
          B201A 00 [00001001] - -
          [Check software version management]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:45

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V
                    Status_Software_Version_Management-module_name: 

1556 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 87 [00001001] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:02:12

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V
                    System_Software_Error-SW_Status_Consistency: 04 01 01
                    System_Software_Error-SW_Status_Device: o

15360768 - Component Protection 
          U1101 00 [00001001] - Active
          [Anti-theft protection - component protection active (0xEA6300)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 304050 km
                    Date: 2023.11.03
                    Time: 03:01:45

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 E
   Component: Batt.regelung H84 0772  
   Serial number: 2502 306190145
   Coding: F0001800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 6882D5B712764B9A873-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
   Serial number: 30000000047437
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
   VCID: 372046CB0FC81462DE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:49, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
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First click on the button will turn 15kl on, as seen In measuring
when trying to long press with clutch, it will turn off 15kl
I have double checked Terminal S wire from T16v/7 (ELV) to D/4 and is seems OK
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Re: BCM Max Transporter 2013

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kessy update...

after a long research why my elv didnt send 50kl signal to start the car..
the biggest possibility was that ELV is not knowing that my clutch is pressd
so after a quick look at elsa :-
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So my van has a basic clutch padle switch
But in CAA with start-stop elsa shows a different case :-
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I have immediately ordered this part and installed it ..
2 wires are repined + new GND wire + one new wire to the ecu

and after testing still no progress :cry: :cry:
I was thinking maybe I should also flash ECU to support (start-stop) to get this new line working
after a quick look into etka I have found : 03L906019GQ
PR :-
G0K 6-speed manual transmission
7MJ Emission standard EU5 plus
7L6 Start/stop system with regenerative braking
7MQ Emissions standard EU5 mod

after flashing and coding, still nothing changed

two days later I asked my self so how a manual beelte and jetta with kessy knows when clutch is pressed
after checking elsa I found this :-
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after checking the beetle clutch position sensor I found that its nothing like the T5
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But If we look closely at the wiring diagram, all the wires seem to be similar, so I decided to give it a try and rotate the new wire to T73b/55

and when made a test I was surprised, kessy start is starting to work

with full clutch and a long press only, it will start the car
a press with out clutch paddle with turn on 15kl, but I wont be able to start the car with a second press with clutch, instead the second press turn of 15kl
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Re: BCM Max Transporter 2013

Post by MrCollayder »

Great job, bro! Working kessy will give you a lot of pleasure =)
So the only thing need to be finished is handle.
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