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iichel wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:14 pm Make a picture of your fusebox next time before you work on it.

The funny thing is that i took that picture. Silly me.
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Oh well. For next time you won't make this mistake. At least your car drives again.
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Good evening my friends. The year seems to be ending with good news regarding the BCM change.
This afternoon the change was made and this time it was successful.
The new BCM has code 6C0937090E

Here is a new scan:

Code: Select all

Friday,30,December,2022,18:43:00:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   License Plate: 
Mileage: 65047km-40418mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZGY308378   Mileage: 65047km-40418miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 057 AB    HW: 04E 907 309 CB
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H20 2496  
   Revision: 33H20000    
   Coding: 01110012020400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057AB.rod
   VCID: 65C104936461CFA350-8030

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0004  
   Serial number: 08512057160424
   Coding: 21DD2485492333C8091700700059842492CC90000005C9098F00
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8D3332-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 820 045 C    HW: 6C0 820 045 C
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 0202  
   Serial number:  1605161B-0418
   Coding: 200000000000100000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
   VCID: 1F4D567B06BDD573DA-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 6C0-937-090-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 090 E    HW: 6C0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ26 HiKR H10 0101  
   Serial number: 006738042497
   Coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 006004
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_006_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2A5BB7AF4DFF20DBBD-807E

   Driver door control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DG    HW: 6R0 959 801 DG  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU012051661335260
   Coding: 0000A0

   Front passenger door control module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DL    HW: 6R0 959 802 DL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU030041661212448
   Coding: 1000A0

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 AA    HW: 6R0 959 811 AA
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU028041661198823
   Coding: 0000A0

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 AA    HW: 6R0 959 812 AA
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 0610 
   Serial number: KU0KU002051661233279
   Coding: 1000A0

1 Fault Found:
555797 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 65047 km
                    Date: 2022.12.30
                    Time: 18:25:06


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 J    HW: 6C0 959 655 J
   Component: VW20Airbag00A 002 0380  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003TH006KLNX
   Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3A7B87EFBD5F905BCD-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 305 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H00A520BDDD2520R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 104 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00A5209A1C310AF
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00AF1FACC94822/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 204 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00C12060D61520W
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 740 C    HW: 6C0 920 740 C
   Component: KOMBI         201 1420  
   Coding: 0704090021000008110828000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 49716 005 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 224B5F8F35CFF89BF5-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901 A    HW: 6C0 937 090 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H10 0101  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 006738042497
   Coding: 01010008200A640071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2643439F59E704BB99-8072

1 Fault Found:
197169 - Controls in Steering Wheel 
          U108E 00 [009] - No Communications
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 65047 km
                    Date: 2022.12.30
                    Time: 18:18:02

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 12.3 V
                    Terminal 15: On


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serial number: PG5Q1139
   Coding: 000700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 6DD17CB3BC91F7E318-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 035 888 B    HW: 6C0 035 888 B
   Component: MU-E--ER      851 6490  
   Serial number: 19041600012060
   Coding: 026200003C00000041110001010000001F0000840000010001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2B55B2AB420539D346-807E

No fault code found.
I made some adaptations myself, but some issues remain.
One small thing is that the brake pad wear indicator is permanently active. I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. Can someone help me with the change to long coding?

And the second it the MFSW, i have to search for it, i am not remember a lot from the installation of it.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Giannis20vt's Polo 6c 1.0MPI

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Old BCM coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
New BCM coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
Did you check your BCM coding for these issues? There are a lot of differences.

MFSW: is the MFSW installed? Wires connected to slip ring? LIN wire to BCM and power cable to i.e. fuse box?
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iichel wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:01 pm Old BCM coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
New BCM coding: 00000042C051005B0FA44004F00503800000000001010014030000000000
Did you check your BCM coding for these issues? There are a lot of differences.

MFSW: is the MFSW installed? Wires connected to slip ring? LIN wire to BCM and power cable to i.e. fuse box?
The MFSW is installed.
I have to check the wiring, ιt's been a while since I installed it.

Yes the old and the new coding have a lot of differences. I'll have to find out what those differences are meaning.
The first thing i want to do is to deactive the warning light for the brake pads, i don't like seeing the warning triangle all the time.
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But why is the coding so different? Were the codings and adaptations of your old bcm saved and transferred to the new BCM? If so, how was it then? If not, why not?
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iichel wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:15 am But why is the coding so different? Were the codings and adaptations of your old bcm saved and transferred to the new BCM? If so, how was it then? If not, why not?
The BCM with code 6C0937090E is a BCM that never installed from the factory to any Polo 6C. Maybe during the change, the copying of the coding was not done correctly for this reason.
Today, I putted the coding from the previous BCM and now all the warning lights gone. That's a good start.
So i have to do the MFSW install from the begining, in fact i will check the wiring and change the wiring for the Horn plate. I have a "hybrid" wiring right now for the Horn plate.
I have a MFSW and i did the wiring for that, but i kept the old wire for the Horn Plate only.
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the horn wire is fine, you can use vcds to code it via LIN (MFSW) or via direct wire to BCM.
i would recommend to also restore all adaptations from the old bcm to the new bcm, they are important and even more since the MQB platform was introduced.
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Happy new year to all of you.

At last, the MFSW is working :D

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I had to push the MF connector more to click to its position.

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I made the coding and it seems to work fine. Of course i don't have Cruise control, it is something that is useless for the use that is made in this car.
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iichel wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:29 pm the horn wire is fine, you can use vcds to code it via LIN (MFSW) or via direct wire to BCM.
i would recommend to also restore all adaptations from the old bcm to the new bcm, they are important and even more since the MQB platform was introduced.
Your advice is excellent, i have to do this. For example, the cornering fog lights, don't work. The luggage lock doesn't unlock when i stop the car and pull out the key.
The problem is i don't have the old adaptations, and it seems that there are a lot of them. How can i do that?
How can i extract the adaptations from the old BCM ?
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It would have been nice if you did it before the replacement. perhaps you can install it back in your car, but I think CP will activate, unless you disconnect cluster, radio etc.
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iichel wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:15 am It would have been nice if you did it before the replacement. perhaps you can install it back in your car, but I think CP will activate, unless you disconnect cluster, radio etc.
Yes i can still connect the old BCM on my car, but how can i extract all the adaptations? One by one ?
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You could but that's not very effective. If you have VCDS, go to applications, controller adaptation map, enter 09 and SA 31347, check adaptations and make CSV.
You can very easily restore old adaptations to the new BCM with the restore function in the same window.

:!: :!: :!: Disconnect cluster and radio to avoid CP errors.
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iichel wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:00 am You could but that's not very effective. If you have VCDS, go to applications, controller adaptation map, enter 09 and SA 31347, check adaptations and make CSV.
You can very easily restore old adaptations to the new BCM with the restore function in the same window.

:!: :!: :!: Disconnect cluster and radio to avoid CP errors.
Thank you very much. I will try it. I even found a video for this procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au4FR1FCrHU


Another thing, maybe i will change the car battery, do i have to do it with the vcds ?
Just like that ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI
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