Control-arm bushing

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Re: Control-arm bushing

Post by 2226 »

Thanks for that info.

The complete kit is a bit more than that single bush tool, but might be worthwhile to have as I might do the rear bushes at some point. And of course I still have the mk1 golf which will probably need to a full refresh on most bushes. Might be useful kit to have anyway.
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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Mine were splitting like that on my 2016 polo gti, so i replaced them with the audi tt lemdenforda hd bushes , easy job .
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Planning on getting the Meyle HD, but will have to come from UK. Not finding them here.
But it must wait until beginning of the year for now. At least I know why the steering is what it is at the moment. That, and the right strut mount.
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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Theres a place in UK called
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I use this company i got my bushes from them & they are reasonable priced & they are on ebay aswell
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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Will check them out. Thank you!
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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I finished my swap yesterday
I recommend spraying the bolt thats with a nut night before with WD-40. I must say it's tight like a mf. I did mine on the ground.
Be sure to measure the distance from the center of the fender arch to the middle of the wheel before dismantling everything.
Sliding out the front control arm is easy job! And pressing out the small bushing just use a m10 threaded rod, socket 36-36 mm, 13 mm socket, two nuts and washers. Installing the new one is easy. I used A 50 mm pipe, but 36 mm socket works great but it isn't deep enough for bushing removal. For installing it's works great!
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For the larger one you will need a cup with inside diameter not less than 66 mm. - I cut out the rubber piece, and scored the aluminum ring with a hacksaw and punched it out with a chisel and hammer. It was easy!
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You press in the bushing from the top of the control arm ( you can see it is coned shaped and has to lines - these are used to align the factory bushings).

To reinstall the front control and, jack the car up by the disc. This will allow you to slide it in straight, first the larger bushing end. Then put a bolt and the nut, then slide the smaller end into the subframe ( use a large screwdriver under the wishbone to pry it up to help you align the holes for the bolt). Thread the bolt in. ( if you are going to reuse the old bolts, clean the rust very well from them).

Be careful ( on the side with the longer driveshaft) when you jack up the wheel ( while the ball joint is not connected to the control arm) it wants to wander off and pull the CV joint from the axel. ( Ask me how I know, I had to remove the boot to tap the CV back on to the axle) So zip out the 36 mm nut for the cv joint. And then Jack up the disc. ( You only have take this precaution on the longer axle side).

Then bolt down the ball joint to the control arm. Jack the disc again to the length that you measured before you dismantled everything. Then torque the control arm bolts 70Nm+ 90 deg.

Use a jack stand!

I did this all on the ground with the jack that comes with the car.
Good luck! Don't sweat it!
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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Thank you.

Is that measurement done with the axle at full droop? No wheel and jacked up.

That CV thing doesn't sound like anything I want to deal with. :D

Will fight that battle when parts arrive. Ordered off ebay from Poland. We don't get Meyle HD here it seems.
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Measure the distance with the weight of the car is on the wheels ( meaning NOT the when car is jacked up). If you are on stock springs you will get around ~36 cm
Dimensions from Factory manual
Standard running gear (G09/G10) 366 ± 10 mm
Sports running gear (G12) 351 ± 10 mm
GTI (G16) 351 ± 10 mm
Heavy-duty suspension (G13/G14/G15/G33/G34) 381 ± 10 mm
Cross (G13/G14/G15/G33/G34) 376 ± 10 mm
R WRC (G62) 341 ± 10 mm

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I have the Cross.
I need me some of that G16.
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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I'm looking at chucking a set of Ibiza Cupra arms on rather than replacing the bushes individually to get the solid rubber rear bush. Is there any difference in the arm at all other than the rear bush?

Pictures on the Lemforder catalog look ever so slightly different but the part number is the same other than having different revisions. GTi being 6R0 407 151(2) F and Cupra being 6R0 407 151(2) B.

GTi:
https://aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/lemfoe ... untryID=GB
Cupra:
https://aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/lemfoe ... untryID=GB

Thoughts?
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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Cupra has solid mount, gti has hollow. Solid mount came on TT....
they the same
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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question hopefully some one can help,
I need front arm control rear brushing replaced on my 2017 6C 30k mile polo 1.0 match edition. I am shocked and disappointed at this mileage, as a brand like Volkswagen can put or design such rubbish suspension/parts perishable that fail so soon.I've owned other German markes such as bmws M cars and Mercedes amg models. I've only bought this from the finance company as it was my wifes car as she bought the polo from new, and I am now using it as my daily work horse.I have been getting a knocking noise from the control arms. the control arm Bush has been confirmed by the vw dealer as a amber item (needs replacing in the near future) with a inspection video of confirming at the time it was in for a timing belt change and minor service and brake fluid change now 3 months later the knocking noise I hear over speed some humps is getting worse I now need to replace it . Now my question is wouldn't it be easier to replace the whole control arm with all new bushing rather than just replace one bushing and who knows when the bearing will fail after. I have been looking around and have read as meyel HD bushing being a option but the arm does not come with the new bearing.what would be a durable and cost effective way about this thanks in advance
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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If you don’t have access to a press, yes but you’ll be paying for the privilege. 2 bolts and 3 nuts and it’s out. However, as mentioned rust can be a bit of an issue so soak them the day before with some penetrant. Bolts are also torque to yield so will need replacing.

A knocking noise could also be roll bar bushes or top mounts so if you’re replacing the arm you may as well replace the roll bar bushes to rule them out as they’re less than £10 for the pair for even lemforder bushes.

I recently had the LCA and ARB bushes done on a Fabia 3 with the same chassis that had a knocking and squeaking noise which is now gone.

Bolts costs me around £25 so 2 lemforder arms at £55~ each and 2 ARB bushes at £10~ would come to around £145.

If you want longer lasting bushes get the Ibiza cupra arms (linked above) as they’ll have a solid rear bush, but this will increase NVH to an extent.

I put Ibiza cupra bushes in my previous 9n3 and found the main difference was that shock loads like cats eyes and potholes were more severe but steering felt much better with no increase in road noise, but that was a different style of subframe and LCA.

Hope that helps :)
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Re: Control-arm bushing

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He could press them In using two hole saws and quality threaded rod. Some people do it that way also
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amer6R wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:25 pm He could press them In using two hole saws and quality threaded rod. Some people do it that way also
That is also an option :D
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