HOW MUCH DID EVERYONE PAY TO GET THE SOUND SYSTEM FITTED??

mysteryboy · Post by **mysteryboy** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:40 pm

yea the head units in.... slight prob with that too... nothing big but i dont want to do it myself... It keeps re-setting every time i turn the car off... Basically the battery wire is not connected directly to the unit or something im told lol

bstardchild · Post by **bstardchild** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:43 pm

mysteryboy wrote:yea the head units in.... slight prob with that too... nothing big but i dont want to do it myself... It keeps re-setting every time i turn the car off... Basically the battery wire is not connected directly to the unit or something im told lol

VW have a funny wiring set up - if you got an adapter with the HU you ned to swap over a red to a yellow..... Read the handbook it normally tells you what to change

mysteryboy · Post by **mysteryboy** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:47 pm

Should I give you a shout when my amp arrives David? & arrange a time when it suits you best

R1CH · Post by **R1CH** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:50 pm

i think thats the permanent live and the switchable live that are mixed up,mine were the wrong way round on the standard plug,,nowt of a job to sort

mysteryboy · Post by **mysteryboy** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:53 pm

yea i need to take a min & stare at da wires... usually figure it out that way,,, hah.. Its never an easy switch...always some complication.. arghh

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:54 pm

yeah that's an easy one to fix - just need so connector blocks and a stanley knife

you can give me a pm no probs, will see when is best! now i'm going to be living with the bird I will get my w/e back

so the HU comes out easy? that's the tricky bit over with!

mysteryboy · Post by **mysteryboy** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:57 pm

lol... yea the HU comes out no probs coz i didnt put da cage in... (& its not goin in coz its a real B!tch to take out)

stuart_hatch · Post by **stuart_hatch** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:59 pm

Ok, dont get 6x9's and a sub, they ruin your soundstage and as the both share the same space, the 6x9's will get f****d from the air pressure the sub produces.

I'd offer to install it all for you FOC but london is a bit far from glasgow!!

mysteryboy · Post by **mysteryboy** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:05 am

glasgow's a bit of a mission... to say the least

R1CH · Post by **R1CH** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:06 am

your right,the sub does seem to give the 6x9 a lot of abuse,due for a change soon anyway,ill bear that in mind mate.

morudy · Post by **morudy** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:05 am

Hi there mate have not checked back here in a while and missed ALOT i c,...

Okay so where abouts in London do you live!? I live in Ilford Im no expert but i can install it for you i have fitted all the kit in my car. The polo shelf is quite stirdy compared to others i have seen so you can put the 6Ã—9z in the shelf and they will be fine actully before i put the 2400W 15" sub in there was a good bit of bass!! Agen its all about personal preference at the end of the day tho.

If you put a little port hole in your shelf the 6Ã—9z dont suffer the pressure from the sub and your will hear ALOT more bass in your car!! You can buy the chrome Vibe ones which look nice!

][=][anson · Post by **][=][anson** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:13 am

have a go yourself, i wired my amp/sub up couple of nights ago, hardest part it feeding the power cable from the battery to the boot, but this is easy really!! the polo must be the easiest car to do an install on!!! save your money and buy something else for your motor

morudy · Post by **morudy** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:54 am

"the polo must be the easiest car to do an install on!!!" i am afraid the easiest car is a Peugeot 106 my 1st car those plastics were so easy to bend back so wires could be laid,,, the Polo is very sterdy to i must say

stuart_hatch · Post by **stuart_hatch** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:12 pm

morudy wrote:"the polo must be the easiest car to do an install on!!!" i am afraid the easiest car is a Peugeot 106 my 1st car those plastics were so easy to bend back so wires could be laid,,, the Polo is very sterdy to i must say

Gota say that, mind you theyd never go back to where they were!

stuart_hatch · Post by **stuart_hatch** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:14 pm

Ok, full explanation why 6x9's are crap:

Why shouldnâ€™t you have 6x9â€™s on the parcel shelf?

You will often see a lot of people using 6x9â€™s and subs and boasting about there systems loudness, this is all very well if you just want sheer volume and no quality at all. What they donâ€™t know is that having the combination of 6x9â€™s and subs is not only playing games with the sound staging in your car but could also damage the units themselves.

Point 1 - Max Excursion Limits vs Air Pressure

This is probably the most important point out of the two. Have you ever put your head in someoneâ€™s boot whilst they have the sub banging out some tunes?

You can feel the air moving around and the pressure of the subs is normally pretty large. This is as the sub creates a band pass box using the air inside a closed boot, hence why most cars without 6x9's sound better inside the car with the boot open.

Now 6x9's have what is called a maximum excursion limit this is how far the cone can move up and down. Having them in the shelf and the sub in the boot you can imagine the amount of air pressure being put on the 6x9s. With the sub moving so much air it will push and pull the cone of the 6x9's causing them to not sound right but also moving them past there excursion limits and can cause them to break.

Point 2 - Sound Stage

Sound stage is very important in the car and to be honest you donâ€™t want to be able to hear which direction the sound is actually coming from, you will want it to sound like the car is filled with volume.

You sit in the front of the car? correct? Yes! So why would you want to have all this lovely sound in the front of your car only to install 6x9's and have the sound dragged into the back of the car?!

I normally give this example to try and prove my point: When you go to music concert you donâ€™t stand there with your back to the stage do you?!

You want to try and have the music in front of you so itâ€™s like a mini band playing on your dash board. In larger cars some rear fill maybe required so a pair of coaxial speakers in the rear door cards can help. But if your fronts are good enough then they should be able to fill the car!

So I say forget 6x9's! You are better off spending your money up front and amping your front components after all thatâ€™s where you are sat.