Advice on fitting new door speakers please - what type?

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:36 pm

Hello,

I'm about to stick some new ICE in my car, and the obvious place to start is the door speakers. A couple of weeks back I put a spare pioneer 6 inch speaker (3 way) in the front door to replace the one way factory speaker there already. It sounded awful compared to the one way speaker. Could it be because the cross over was wrecking the sound, or is it generally known that the only way to beef up the front door speakers is to put component speakers in?

I'm into punchy bass music rather than out and out low down bass. Any advice on what sounds awesome? I have seen some focal components (16 cm) down at halfords which sound very impressive - 130 rats. Although I may opt for some rockford fosgate ones from www.caraudiodirect.com. Anyone put midrange speakers in? Or subs?!

I have a rockford fosgate 12" sub and amp to go in the boot already, and I'm not too fussed about any speakers on the parcel shelf quite yet. My past experience has led me to believe that money spent at the front of the car is the right way to go.

Hmmmm, there's no substitute for personal opinions on this front - I've always found that cost doesn't have a major influence on speaker quality! (Within reason...)

Cheers for any help,

Dave

P.S. I will get a piccie of my car on here soon!

KarlM · Post by **KarlM** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:20 pm

How do you mean 'awful'. what your probably better with is a set of components rather than a set of co-axials.

components have the tweeter seperate from the main speaker so you can place it where it sounds the best to you. a technique profeesionals use is to fit the speaker and wire up the tweeter, but fix the tweeter using Blu-Tac. this means you can try various positions to see which sounds best...

hope that helps

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:35 pm

pretty much lacking in any bass, I was pretty surprised by how bad it was considering the speakers were 70 quid!

KarlM · Post by **KarlM** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:59 pm

what you want is a big cone area and a big magnet then. this will give you a bassy speaker.

try - Alpine, AudioBahn, Kenwood or Fusion (these are ones i have listen to and sound really meaty)

Post by **Josh_PoloGTi** » Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:29 pm

You also need to make sure that there is an air tight seal round the speaker and the door panel, so none of the air coming from the rear of the speaker can come out of the front.

I'm really happy with my focal components. (Polyflex 165H)

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:16 am

cool, well that gives me a good starting point.

cheers guys

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:23 am

actually, will 6 1/2 inch speakers fit the doors of my mk iv? They seem like they might be too big....

Speedlaw · Post by **Speedlaw** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:17 am

Think so -

I've fitted these:

and they're 6,5" wide and quite deep too.

Fitted without modifications to the original door card.

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:52 pm

My mind now rests at ease!

I found these:

http://www.hiwayhifi.com/site/product.a ... prod=18545

for 120 nuggets. they seem pretty good and Alpine has been previously recommended to me...

Scorpio1 · Post by **Scorpio1** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:17 am

Let us know how you get on with these as I want some new ones for my car too at some point.

david burton · Post by **david burton** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:47 pm

ok will do.

I am currently hunting a head unit too. have seen the sony cdx 9000 for 149 quid which is a bargain - but it's the one without buttons on the head unit and instead has a controller mounted elsewhere. looks cool but is it gonna be a fiddle in the end?? who knows...

It really puzzles me as to why my pioneers sounded so poor. i wonder if it's worth me by-passing the vw crossover and seeing what they sound like then. It could possibly be that the vw cross-over is causing not enough bass to go to the speaker and then the speaker's own cross-over is messing it up still further. I'm going to be left with no wire to solder to if I keep chopping and changing

Anyone want to buy some Pioneer TSE 1695's?! http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product ... cts_id=871

I keep going round in circles with car hi-fi - spend money, not happy, spend more, still not happy. i should have just gone straight for the expensive stuff