To re-map...or not to re-map???

[MateyGuv]

Every one is entitled to there own thoughts. If you read the post you will get the answer to the question. I have never said there is no trace of a remap - your making things up - what i am saying is the system that a dealer uses to diagnose the car will not flag up an error. This is all the dealer needs to get paid out. This is worth knowing and thats why i have posted. I'm more likely to believe my techs than you, thats just the way it is. Gonna leave this now. Make your own mind up guys and girls

[andy947]

The diagnostics wont throw an error code, or display a change n software, i never said it would. But you need to knw what you are looking for.

You can roll back a remap to standard performance by simply changing the software number through adaptations. If the dealer tried it, and found a difference they would know its remapped.

Thats only 1 way of finding it, there are others.

Also worth noting, its not in a dealers interest to turn down warranty work, they get paid for it by VW, many dealers will over look modifications, provided they havn't directly caused the fault.

Its entierly down to the dealer, some dealers are absolute jobsworths, who won't touch the cars, others have absolutely no problem, asit seems in your case Jeff. The dealer could have just as easily refused to do the work and flag the car to VW, but sounds like you got a decent guy.

[M@Turner]

I go away for the weekend and comeback to a somewhat heated to debate!!! I appreciate all the input you guys are giving anyway!

Well i rang both JBS and Awesome on Friday to find out prices and this is what i was told:

JBS = £312.55 (currently 30% discount) + £85 for the Forge 007p

Awesome = £440.63 (but they said it weren't necessary to upgrade DV though! )

I'm tempted though to go over to Awesome and give the free 6hour trial a blast though, after all its free!!!

Looking at the prices, Custom Code is obviously the one i'm slightly swaying more towards, however the warrenty fact does still linger in the back of my mind. So i shall probs be giving a couple of local VW dealers a ring this week and ask them where they stand on warrenty work on re-mapped cars!!!!

[andy947]

So i shall probs be giving a couple of local VW dealers a ring this week and ask them where they stand on warrenty work on re-mapped cars!!!!

Worth questioning a few dealers, see what they say.

I wouldn't worry about it too much, you're not mapping the egine to within an inch of its life, neither APR or CC will throw a code on the dignostics, so if things like engine senders fail or control units etc, they'll just diagnose the problem as usual and replace it. Mine had a fualty crank sender and it was scanned and changed within 30mins.

You dont 'need' to change the DV valve with the remap, but its worth doing if you've got the money (and with CC it'd still be cheaper than the APR map!). If your original one fails (which it can do without even remapping the car) you'd be easier changing it with an uprated one anyway.

[KennyPOLO_Gti]

Am on APR stage one with standard DV and it runs like a wee sweety. The DV on the old 1.8t are s**t but think VW have realised this and upgraded them. But i will change it one day

[more-bhp]

Be careful with trial software..after it expires the OBD port is locked preventing others from loading their tuning software through OBD.

I know because I come across expired trials quite often, customers are never aware of whats left behind

It is a nasty trick of Revo and APR.

When the trial expires you technically are still modified as the trial leaves plenty of code behind in the ecu, it cannot delete itself. This code is not easily removed - its pretty much stuck in there.

Ok if you decide to buy the FULL version of the trial.

But if you decide to go elsewhere they will have to remove the ecu to program. The ecu on the POLO is in an anti-tamper case and if not removed carefully leaves more obvious signs of tuning.

Regards J

[KennyPOLO_Gti]

U sure apr do that? A know revo do

[more-bhp]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Revo was started by a couple of guys who used to work for APR, they apparently stole much of the mapping and development work.

APR have pursued this in the courts I believe without much success.

So although Revo and APR are different companies I'm sure you will find many similarities with the tuning and the trials.

[andy947]

Good point about the trial software.

Some cannot be over written by other code once expired.

Also, some don't put you back to 'VAG Standard' code, you're left with their 'standard' software, which isn't the same.

Again, its a classic mis belief that trial software magically disappears after the time is up. . . .