Anybody ever tracked car out of a 6N ? & G60 Upgra
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Anybody ever tracked car out of a 6N ? & G60 Upgra
Hiya All,
I recently bought a Mk4 16v as a cheap runaround.
After a recent trip to the Nurburgring, me and several mates decided to build a track car between us, initial idea was a Mk2 Golf with a 2.0L 16v ABF Engine in it. (and uprated
As I now already have the Polo, was wondering if anybody has ever done this to a mk4 Polo already for this purpose and how good they are as a track car.
I already have plans for Weitec Coilovers, and a Corrado G60 Brake Setup on the front, and G60 Disc Conversion on the Rear. And some uprated ARB's and Strut B's
Also, when others have done the G60 Brake upgrade on the front, have you also uprated the Master Cylinder ? (to potentially a 23mm one off a Corrado VR6) ?
Any advice appreciated.
On another note, I know that a 1.4 16v is a little lame for a track engine, therefore, has anybody had any experience on putting other engines in e Mk4 Polo, eg G60, Mk2 Golf 2.0L ABF, 1.8T
Cheers,
Scott
I recently bought a Mk4 16v as a cheap runaround.
After a recent trip to the Nurburgring, me and several mates decided to build a track car between us, initial idea was a Mk2 Golf with a 2.0L 16v ABF Engine in it. (and uprated
As I now already have the Polo, was wondering if anybody has ever done this to a mk4 Polo already for this purpose and how good they are as a track car.
I already have plans for Weitec Coilovers, and a Corrado G60 Brake Setup on the front, and G60 Disc Conversion on the Rear. And some uprated ARB's and Strut B's
Also, when others have done the G60 Brake upgrade on the front, have you also uprated the Master Cylinder ? (to potentially a 23mm one off a Corrado VR6) ?
Any advice appreciated.
On another note, I know that a 1.4 16v is a little lame for a track engine, therefore, has anybody had any experience on putting other engines in e Mk4 Polo, eg G60, Mk2 Golf 2.0L ABF, 1.8T
Cheers,
Scott
i cant give specifics only general answers as im not too clued up on these things but engine conversions that have been done in the past that i know off are indeed a G60, VR6, 1.8T, Golf V5, G40
beyond that im stumed. Though personally i always wanted to try and do a 2.0L 20v on throttle bodies in a polo...
beyond that im stumed. Though personally i always wanted to try and do a 2.0L 20v on throttle bodies in a polo...
^^^ As said above, plus look at the gearbox too, as you don't want to run out of gears!
Plus depends if its going to be used as a daily driver too & how much you want to spend. Cheap idea may be to strip & rebuild a 1.6 with a fast road cam & a set of carbs, together with a decent tubular manifold & free-flow exhaust would be a quick car in the twisty stuff, just lacking on long straights.
1.8 or 2.0 N/A Golf engine would be great, very flexible & easy to tune/fix, ultimate torque monster would be the VR6 & would be a joy to drive! Turbo & Super-charged cars are great, however are more costly to produce & can give you a headache when plumbing them in! Carbs all the way for me!!!
Plus depends if its going to be used as a daily driver too & how much you want to spend. Cheap idea may be to strip & rebuild a 1.6 with a fast road cam & a set of carbs, together with a decent tubular manifold & free-flow exhaust would be a quick car in the twisty stuff, just lacking on long straights.
1.8 or 2.0 N/A Golf engine would be great, very flexible & easy to tune/fix, ultimate torque monster would be the VR6 & would be a joy to drive! Turbo & Super-charged cars are great, however are more costly to produce & can give you a headache when plumbing them in! Carbs all the way for me!!!
If you're gonna stick with polo engines then the early 1.4 16v DOHC's are actually the most tunable as they're rally derived. Run it off carbs with shrick cams and a gti bottom end as well as the usual exhaust system upgrades. Maybe after doing all of that you could consider a Turbo, which is what people usually do with valvers rather then supercharge.
The only problem is if your spending major bucks and not doing everything yourself then you'd opt for a bigger lump.
The only problem sticking with a polo engine is the gearbox! If you could somehow mate a lupo gti 6-speed box then you shouldn't have any problems. Best man to ask on engines would probably be Jarno!
The only problem is if your spending major bucks and not doing everything yourself then you'd opt for a bigger lump.
The only problem sticking with a polo engine is the gearbox! If you could somehow mate a lupo gti 6-speed box then you shouldn't have any problems. Best man to ask on engines would probably be Jarno!
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Advice wanted about engine conversions in a Mk4 Polo
I've been thinking about this trackday toy using my daily driver mk4 16v as a base, startin a few smallish mods first,
First, G60 brakes (front and rear)
then Coilovers, ARB's, Strut Braces
then............ strip it, cage it and then do an engine conversion.....
Thinking about it realistically, i've read from a few people that mk4's dont have front engine mounts...
How difficult would it be to put something like a G60 Engine/Gearbox, Mk3 16v Engine/Gearbox into the bonnet of my Mk4 Polo ?
Would like an idea of cost too off people who would take a project like this on as a business as I would be quite capable of doing the brakes myself, but the engine might be a little too much for me to take on myself.
Ball park figure, how much is it gonna cost me ? Is it worth me startin the small mods now, or ditch the idea completely and buy something thats already been done ?
Thanks in advance,
Scott
First, G60 brakes (front and rear)
then Coilovers, ARB's, Strut Braces
then............ strip it, cage it and then do an engine conversion.....
Thinking about it realistically, i've read from a few people that mk4's dont have front engine mounts...
How difficult would it be to put something like a G60 Engine/Gearbox, Mk3 16v Engine/Gearbox into the bonnet of my Mk4 Polo ?
Would like an idea of cost too off people who would take a project like this on as a business as I would be quite capable of doing the brakes myself, but the engine might be a little too much for me to take on myself.
Ball park figure, how much is it gonna cost me ? Is it worth me startin the small mods now, or ditch the idea completely and buy something thats already been done ?
Thanks in advance,
Scott
What are the difference if you compare the G40 and the G60 (not the engine size/hp,just to put in a another car?) ?NOZ wrote:No idea about G60 conversion but one of my local mk5 polo owners runs a charged G40 lump and believe me it shifts like crazy. With smaller cars you want the transplant but something that handles superb. A 6n with great handling mods can outrun some bigger motors through the twisties!
I belived that they were identical.
How about to take the Golf G60 brakes by the way? Wouldnt they fit better then the Corrado G60?
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Re: Advice wanted about engine conversions in a Mk4 Polo
sc00byd00byd00 wrote:I've been thinking about this trackday toy using my daily driver mk4 16v as a base, startin a few smallish mods first,
First, G60 brakes (front and rear)
then Coilovers, ARB's, Strut Braces
then............ strip it, cage it and then do an engine conversion.....
Thinking about it realistically, i've read from a few people that mk4's dont have front engine mounts...
How difficult would it be to put something like a G60 Engine/Gearbox, Mk3 16v Engine/Gearbox into the bonnet of my Mk4 Polo ?
Would like an idea of cost too off people who would take a project like this on as a business as I would be quite capable of doing the brakes myself, but the engine might be a little too much for me to take on myself.
Ball park figure, how much is it gonna cost me ? Is it worth me startin the small mods now, or ditch the idea completely and buy something thats already been done ?
Thanks in advance,
Scott
Anybody got any more info on this ??
