Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Chat about your facelift 9n3 Polo - Including the 9N3 Polo GTI!
POLOZ
Gold Member
Posts: 704
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 6:20 pm

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by POLOZ »

Turbomier wrote:driver does it all.
a "red light sprint" is also something else as an 1/4mile dragrace.
at the lights, i rarely see someone do a good launch from standing still.
on a dragrace everybody tries to do the perfect launch to be first.
if you have a good start, the race is half won allready. (not against a 500Hp corvette or so :-p)
but i can tell you, 0.5sec is a BIG difference in a dragrace or even a sprint.
i got proof enough of that :mrgreen:

and i don't say you in person are a bad driver.
but you said it yourself, still figuring out the power from the 1.8T.
nobody expect you to drive it like you know the car for years.
like said above, practice will surely improve the skill and results :wink:
take youre time and youll see :P
Turbomier is this your Polo?

https://www.youtube*.com/watch?v=Hp5gVcATEfE
Turbomier
Silver Member
Posts: 314
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:18 pm

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by Turbomier »

yes it is :D :P :mrgreen:
same for all the video's posted under the name "Turbomier" :wink:
POLOZ
Gold Member
Posts: 704
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 6:20 pm

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by POLOZ »

Turbomier wrote:yes it is :D :P :mrgreen:
same for all the video's posted under the name "Turbomier" :wink:
Dude consider me as your student :lol: and please teach me how you beat all of those high powered cars at the start line :D
Turbomier
Silver Member
Posts: 314
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:18 pm

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by Turbomier »

practice, practice and don't forget, practice :mrgreen:

i'm realy thinking about making a instrucktion video or something,
i realy get that question alot... :lol:

what i do: (this is for a unmapped polo, a mapped one can have a different reaction)
1ste gear, rev. to aprox 2000-2500Rpm (depends on what type tarmac you are and what temp. it is, grip depends from those)
when the licht is green or the moment you want to "launch", let the clucth go and at the same time, put youre foot down on the gaspedal. (play with the gaspedal when needed)
so you handling is about the same as how launch control works.
get a Gtech or a Vbox to measure youre 0-60times and practice.
you need a Gtech or Vbox to see youre improvements correct, and it will help you become better.
if you practice a bit, you will notice it will go better and better each time untill you got it right how you want it.
but remember, on a official dragrace it also comes down to reaction time.
and as you see in my video from the sprint in Ciney, my reaction time was also verry good so that also helped me alot, specially on a short dragrace like Ciney :wink:

hope it helps!
let me know how it went :wink:
MarcoPolo
Getting There!
Posts: 87
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:22 am

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by MarcoPolo »

blazeguarder wrote:
POLOZ wrote:So the question is, are GTI's really slower than the Saxo s**t's???????? :?
:shock: :shock: Wash your mouth out with soap! lol
Using maths:
The GTi puts out 150bhp. Assuming it weighs 1164 kg (from google), this gives it a power to weight value of 129bhp/tonne.
The VTR puts out 100 bhp. Assuming it weighs 920 kg (parkers), this gives it a power to weight value of 109bhp/tonne.
For a GTi to have the same power to weight ratio as the VTR, a GTi weighing 1164kg would have to have a power output of 126.5 bhp.

To summarise: no.
I agree, the Polo should be victorious, but there's slightly more to it than just numbers on paper. It's all about torque curves, gearing (gearboxes are torque multipliers), wind resistance and driver skill etc etc.
I doubt there would ever be more than a car length or two between them between 0 and 60 to be honest.

I've not raced anything in our GTI, purely because there is just no acceleration past 4500rpm. When I beat someone, I like to beat them massively, or not at all, so I use my Corrado for those kind of races :lol:

The GTI is OK over a limited rev band (as standard) but it's no street racer imo. The Saxo was built for that purpose. Aimed at 17 year olds who like hooning round McD's carparks. That isn't the Polo's domain, it can do better than that :wink:
User avatar
chris meardon
Silver Member
Posts: 432
Joined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:09 pm
Location: Wokingham, Berkshire

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by chris meardon »

Marco Polo,

I couldnt agree more

having owned both a saxo VTR and VTS you guys can be assured that there is nothing to worry about.

The 9n3 polo is miles quicker than the saxo's

maybe there is not much in BHP difference but the torque you get from the 9n3 throws the polo in front. Yes 0-60 it would be close, but after 3 or 4th gear the saxo runs out of steam and the polo keeps on pulling
epanda
New
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:53 am
Location: Leeds..

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by epanda »

I'd say it'd be fine against stock saxos!

Before my Polo I had a Lupo GTi and it was pretty even with stock VTS's. I'd say the polo is faster after having a mess about with mates cars.

"Raced" a Clio 197 from 30 onwards and the Polo stayed ahead so tbh like Turbomier said, as theres no massive difference in power between these types of cars it all comes down to launch (if your brave enough to hammer your clutch! I tend to tickle it from lights like an old man haha :oops: ), drivers ability e.g knowing when to change gears at the best time for his car and how well maintained the car is.
POLOZ
Gold Member
Posts: 704
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 6:20 pm

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by POLOZ »

Thanks Everybody for the heads up :D
Turbomier thanks for the lesson I will surely be practicing it ;) You have a new found student now :lol:
Turbomier
Silver Member
Posts: 314
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:18 pm

Re: Can Polo GTI really beat the Saxo's

Post by Turbomier »

NP mate, let me know if i can help! :wink:

ps: let me know how practice goes :mrgreen:
Post Reply