DSG 'crashing'

[biff+]

Anyway...

[Edi30]

If you drive it normally with no lead foot then you won't even feel the changes. However if you are driving in a high gear at say 40 and put your foot to the floor then like an auto it's going to kick down to 2nd with a bit of a jolt but no worse than a conventional auto

Which brings us back to my point. My 1.4 doesn't have paddles and I bought it as an automatic and use 'D' 99% of the time and 'S' 1%.

Pull off a motorway, slow down for a roundabout, see a space and floor the accelerator and you will experience the DSG 'Jump'...

Put it in Manual and use the stick, problem solved

[Edi30]

Anyway...

Any more problems? If not just enjoy the car it might not happen again.

[biff+]

No problems no. I disconnected the battery over the weekend to see if that got rid of any electrical glitches. Booked in for Thursday nonetheless.

[biff+]

[daydotz]

yikes

im a bit unsure how the Manuel side of the box works would i just flick it to the left then use the paddles to go up an down
i guess it still needs to put back over for reverse ?
driving it this way what do you do when you pull up at traffic lights ?

[Edi30]

yikes
im a bit unsure how the Manuel side of the box works would i just flick it to the left then use the paddles to go up an down
i guess it still needs to put back over for reverse ?
driving it this way what do you do when you pull up at traffic lights ?

Oh-er not seen anything like that before never had a DSG box be anything but perfect.

When driving in manual use the paddles to go up and down as required. Yes flick back for reverse. In manual you may need to use the stick as well when pulling out of junctions as the wheel will be upside down or turned so you cant get to the paddles. Have a play you won't break it. When I first got a DSG I tried it in all modes and driving just on paddles then just using the stick etc, it was great learning a new technique/skill for driving. Also when you come to a stop you should if waiting for more than say 10 secs put it into N, in fact you should do this anyway even if in auto mode as DSG should not be left for any length of time in D and holding on the foot brake like a regular auto as there is no torque converter. Think of it like a manual you would not sit at the lights riding the clutch if driving a regular manual. I use mine in manual 99% of the time. You might also want to try driving in D and then using the paddles and then this will switch to manual for paddle use only and will time out after say 20 secs and go back to auto if you don't use the paddles again in that time. You can also revert back to auto by holding the + (up) for a few seconds (hence the Off written on the paddle).

[daydotz]

yikes
im a bit unsure how the Manuel side of the box works would i just flick it to the left then use the paddles to go up an down
i guess it still needs to put back over for reverse ?
driving it this way what do you do when you pull up at traffic lights ?

Oh-er not seen anything like that before never had a DSG box be anything but perfect.

When driving in manual use the paddles to go up and down as required. Yes flick back for reverse. In manual you may need to use the stick as well when pulling out of junctions as the wheel will be upside down or turned so you cant get to the paddles. Have a play you won't break it. When I first got a DSG I tried it in all modes and driving just on paddles then just using the stick etc, it was great learning a new technique/skill for driving. Also when you come to a stop you should if waiting for more than say 10 secs put it into N, in fact you should do this anyway even if in auto mode as DSG should not be left for any length of time in D and holding on the foot brake like a regular auto as there is no torque converter. Think of it like a manual you would not sit at the lights riding the clutch if driving a regular manual. I use mine in manual 99% of the time. You might also want to try driving in D and then using the paddles and then this will switch to manual for paddle use only and will time out after say 20 secs and go back to auto if you don't use the paddles again in that time. You can also revert back to auto by holding the + (up) for a few seconds (hence the Off written on the paddle).

i have a good look i was a bit concerned it would require more time to get into reverse or i was going to have to get better aiming for a parking space an do it in one

i read it was perfectly safe to leave it in d with your foot on the foot brake if you stop completely then p/n on the handbrake
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/190874 ... ge__st__20
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/194709 ... sg__st__20 so im a bit confused

[Edi30]

i have a good look i was a bit concerned it would require more time to get into reverse or i was going to have to get better aiming for a parking space an do it in one

i read it was perfectly safe to leave it in d with your foot on the foot brake if you stop completely then p/n on the handbrake
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/190874 ... ge__st__20
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/194709 ... sg__st__20 so im a bit confused

Hmm, just read this and the user manual and this is not conclusive. The manual does state that the car can be held with the footbrake when in D,S & R. In the next paragraph it states the vehicle will creep forward as the power transmission is not fully interrupted even when the engine is idling. Therefore I will leave this to interpretation. From memory the manual for my previous ED30 stated that it should not be left in D as it might overheat. I am going to continue putting it in N while stopped for any length if time.

[Norbreck21a]

If you have hill hold though, and you stop on a hill, doesn't putting it into neutral disengage the hill hold function?

[Edi30]

If you have hill hold though, and you stop on a hill, doesn't putting it into neutral disengage the hill hold function?

Dunno don't have hill hold. I find that the latest versions of DSG can do hill starts really well so don't need hill hold.

[daydotz]

If you have hill hold though, and you stop on a hill, doesn't putting it into neutral disengage the hill hold function?

Dunno don't have hill hold. I find that the latest versions of DSG can do hill starts really well so don't need hill hold.

as far as im aware the polo gti has hill hold as standard



the old 6spd dsg is completly diffrent to the 7spd dsg

7 speed is a dry clutch and 6 speed is a wet (submerged in oil) clutch - VW haven't worked out how to do a dry clutch in the torquier models (TDI and 2.0TSI) without it being ragged to death. Dry clutch is therefore only currently suitable for the 1.4TSI at the moment. Not only does the 7th gear make it more economical, the fact that it's not doing its stuff through oil (less resistance) also helps its also got thicker clutch plates then the dsg6

[Edi30]

as far as im aware the polo gti has hill hold as standard



the old 6spd dsg is completly diffrent to the 7spd dsg

7 speed is a dry clutch and 6 speed is a wet (submerged in oil) clutch - VW haven't worked out how to do a dry clutch in the torquier models (TDI and 2.0TSI) without it being ragged to death. Dry clutch is therefore only currently suitable for the 1.4TSI at the moment. Not only does the 7th gear make it more economical, the fact that it's not doing its stuff through oil (less resistance) also helps its also got thicker clutch plates then the dsg6

Do they really have hill hold, I am going to find a step hill and see if it rolls back after a few seconds I have not read anything by VW (on their website) that says Polo 6R has hill hold, I will check the manual. Hill hold and auto hold are mentioned on other models such as Golf, Scirocco etc. There is info on the web stating Polo 6R has it. Hmm got me thinking.

Yes I know 6 and 7 spd DSG are very different and as 7 spd has dry clutches I thought that they would overheat sooner than 6 spd

[biff+]

Don't want to give too much away, but this could mean a software update for a lot of people.

[daydotz]

as far as im aware the polo gti has hill hold as standard



the old 6spd dsg is completly diffrent to the 7spd dsg

7 speed is a dry clutch and 6 speed is a wet (submerged in oil) clutch - VW haven't worked out how to do a dry clutch in the torquier models (TDI and 2.0TSI) without it being ragged to death. Dry clutch is therefore only currently suitable for the 1.4TSI at the moment. Not only does the 7th gear make it more economical, the fact that it's not doing its stuff through oil (less resistance) also helps its also got thicker clutch plates then the dsg6

Do they really have hill hold, I am going to find a step hill and see if it rolls back after a few seconds I have not read anything by VW (on their website) that says Polo 6R has hill hold, I will check the manual. Hill hold and auto hold are mentioned on other models such as Golf, Scirocco etc. There is info on the web stating Polo 6R has it. Hmm got me thinking.

Yes I know 6 and 7 spd DSG are very different and as 7 spd has dry clutches I thought that they would overheat sooner than 6 spd

be interesting to see i thought it was a standard thing with the dsg i know skoda do maybe im wrong about vw seems a bit odd it would make sense to have it