retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
- iichel
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retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
so, to avoid off-topic in ciclo's Polo thread, i'll do it here.
Objective:
To retrofit Kessy to the Polo 6R
Kessy is the keyless entry and start system
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation- ... kessy.html
Progress so far:
- Removed old ignition lock
- Installed Kessy wiring to antennas
- Installed Kessy antennas
- Replaced door handles with Kessy variants
- Installed J935 converter box
- Installed Terminal 15 relay
- Bought ELV, start button, Kessy module
- Bought three new keys
- Adapted IMMO
- Coded BCM
To do:
- Adapt keys to kessy module for keyless entry
- Adapt keys to ELV?
- Successfully enter and start the car keylessly
See my first post here:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3165#p518667
The door handles:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3165#p518675
The wiring:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3180#p518722
The parts needed and brainstorming in my google drive folder. Some of it in Dutch, some in English.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
I'll update the thread if I have some news. Also I'll try to answer some questions. And of course feel free to share ideas.
Objective:
To retrofit Kessy to the Polo 6R
Kessy is the keyless entry and start system
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation- ... kessy.html
Progress so far:
- Removed old ignition lock
- Installed Kessy wiring to antennas
- Installed Kessy antennas
- Replaced door handles with Kessy variants
- Installed J935 converter box
- Installed Terminal 15 relay
- Bought ELV, start button, Kessy module
- Bought three new keys
- Adapted IMMO
- Coded BCM
To do:
- Adapt keys to kessy module for keyless entry
- Adapt keys to ELV?
- Successfully enter and start the car keylessly
See my first post here:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3165#p518667
The door handles:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3165#p518675
The wiring:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3180#p518722
The parts needed and brainstorming in my google drive folder. Some of it in Dutch, some in English.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
I'll update the thread if I have some news. Also I'll try to answer some questions. And of course feel free to share ideas.
- iichel
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
updated VCDS coding
result with normal ignition lock:
if ignition is on, it says in the segment display 'no key'.
also, if there is something wrong with the kessy it says 'check keyless'. very neat.
Car now unlocks when ignition is switched off, instead of key removal.
Problem with the converter box/BCM wiring: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3180#p518773
Code: Select all
Tuesday,28,February,2017,13:53:50:62066
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86(VMWare)
VCDS Version 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345
VIN: License Plate:
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Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2B 2E 37 3C 44 47 55 56
61 69 6C 77 0B
VIN: Mileage: 0km-0miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA) Labels: 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B HW: 03P 907 425
Component: R3 1.2l TDI H06 9978
Revision: 12005001 Serial number:
Coding: 00114036033401080000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001041
ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
VCID: 2757FDE35E1F667988-8073
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: None
Part No HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding:
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 55AB872B38F324E9EA-8001
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E HW: 5K0 959 434
Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202
Revision: 00092000 Serial number: 0346244897
Coding: 000F0F
Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_VW01.rod
VCID: 37772DA38EBFF6F918-8063
1 Fault Found:
1057799 - Antenna for Keyless Entry System in Trunk
B1173 11 [008] - Short to Ground
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 153
Mileage: 0 km
Date: 2017.02.28
Time: 01:41:03
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H12 0812
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 38752E9F8BA1F98111-806D
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733
Revision: B9080001 Serial number: 0771 092150183
Coding: 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A073EFE08D78D020E050032800
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803D
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
Component: RLS 140415 03 37 0059
Coding: 0714DD
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD HW: 6R0 959 801 BD Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8611
Serial number: KU0KU011111300010103
Coding: 0200A3
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF HW: 6R0 959 802 BF Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8611
Serial number: KU0KU007111300016463
Coding: 1000AB
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442 HW: 1K8 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H03 0103
Serial number: 27140002547420014516
Coding: A4FFFF
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 B HW: 6R0 959 811 B
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 0803
Serial number: KU0-KU008.06.0910897
Coding: 08BC32
Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B HW: 6R0 959 812 B
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 0803
Serial number: KU0-KU004.06.0913330
Coding: 08BC32
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L HW: 7N0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0106
Revision: -------- Serial number: 28231422402620
Coding: 318001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS.rod
VCID: 3B7F3193B297D299FC-806F
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX0142TCE
Coding: 00314D
Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4A916457ED4D7B1177-801F
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB40650BI7U48C8
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB405J09RECEOUJ
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB405T0BTBEF9G7
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBEKPFQ
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A HW: 6R0 920 870 A
Component: KOMBI H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 336F19B39AC71AD924-8067
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733
Revision: B9080001
Coding: 042201
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803D
No fault code found.
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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels: 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G HW: 7E0 857 511 E
Component: FLA H10 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 040C00E200000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
VCID: 2E5908C771E537314B-807B
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000007
Shop #: WSC 09402 015 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6AD1C4D78D8D9B1157-803F
2 Faults Found:
9456681 - Key
B104C 29 [009] - Implausible Signal
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 0 km
Date: 2017.02.28
Time: 01:41:06
10493440 - Function Limitation due to Missing Enable from OCU/VTS
B201E 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 0 km
Date: 2017.02.28
Time: 01:41:05
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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B HW: 5K0 905 861 B
Component: ELV-PQ35 H20 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 11000256123005
Coding: 4100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
VCID: 2F6715C376EF3E3940-807B
2 Faults Found:
1048838 - Terminal 15
B1148 12 [137] - Short to Plus
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 113
Mileage: 0 km
Date: 2017.02.28
Time: 01:37:56
ELV State: 04
Information Clamps: 67 20
CoCo State: B0 01
WFS State: 10 1A
Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
Voltage: 68
1048840 - Terminal 15 Redundancy
B11D6 12 [137] - Short to Plus
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 113
Mileage: 0 km
Date: 2017.02.28
Time: 01:37:56
ELV State: 04
Information Clamps: 67 20
CoCo State: B0 01
WFS State: 10 1A
Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
Voltage: 68
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G HW: 5N0 035 342 G
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7666620365
Coding: 010100
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2B5F01D34AF742196C-807F
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E HW: 1T0 035 686 H
Component: RNS-MID H26 6276
Coding: 00070002010000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 366920A781B50FF103-8063
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 3C: Lane Change Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 7E0 907 566 B HW: 4L0 907 566 A
Component: J0769 SWA MasterH14 0120
Revision: 00H14000 Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-07
Coding: 0010161
Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 2F6715C3BEEF3E3940-807B
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7E0 907 568 B
Component: J0770 SWA Slave H09 0110
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-27
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F31.03.1100H090003CH21982ÿ
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: H21982ÿ
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11220
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F6715C3EAEF3E3940-807B
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System (R12) Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C HW: 5C6 035 456 C
Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831
Revision: -------- Serial number: EAA098C0000052
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4 001001
ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4.rod
VCID: 2855FEDF5301690181-807D
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0192000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77F7EDA3CE3F36F9D8-8023
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E HW: 1T0 035 686 H
Component: RNS-MID H26 6276
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
Coding: 00070002010000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 366920A781B50FF103-8063
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14 8477
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 534 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: Batt.regelung H80 0733
Serial number: 0771 092150183
Coding: 03071A5A
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803D
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 HW: 6C0 915 181
Component: J367-BDM H08 0223
Serial number: 61083A44504351928092
No fault code found.
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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 E HW: 1K0 907 383 E
Component: Anhaenger H07 0080
Revision: 3A002002 Serial number: 00000116932377
Coding: 0100000100000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2F6715C37EEF3E3940-807B
No fault code found.
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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 441 HW: 7E0 907 441
Component: J772__Rearview 0040
Revision: 00H08000 Serial number: 525PA8-J060533
Coding: 0030115
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 65CBB7EBAC93B4697A-8031
1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 113
Time Indication: 0
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E HW: 3C8 035 730 E
Component: Telefon 025 0983
Revision: -------- Serial number: 35502105254406
Coding: 020100000100010000000101
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
ROD: EV_UHVPremi_002.rod
VCID: 254BF7EB24137469BA-8071
No fault code found.
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if ignition is on, it says in the segment display 'no key'.
also, if there is something wrong with the kessy it says 'check keyless'. very neat.
Car now unlocks when ignition is switched off, instead of key removal.
Problem with the converter box/BCM wiring: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3180#p518773
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
LC,17,1,Funktion Anlasswiederholsperre aktiv
My German is extraordinarily limited (sorry) ....
My German is extraordinarily limited (sorry) ....
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
anlasswiederhohlsperre, a beautiful word for sure
anlasser = starter engine
wiederhohl = to repeat
sperre = blocking, blockade
anlasser = starter engine
wiederhohl = to repeat
sperre = blocking, blockade
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
T73a/51 is not correct, this pin is not used since a long time (it was for sill lights on some PQ25 models -T5-).iichel wrote:Luckily the two extra modules are +30ciclo wrote:
However, it is very important to take into account all these positive signals (+50, +75, +30, +15). Especially for Kessy ...
Any progress with Byte25 Bit5?
The converter box J935 makes things a bit more complicated
Byte 25 bit 5 seems to work.
The only thing is the T73a/51. That is a power supply to the converter box on T10/10. It is the power for terminal 50.
J764 steering lock T16/12 gives a signal to converter box on T10/6. Then T73a/51 is connected to T10/1. T10/1 is the starter signal.
T73a/51 needs to output 12V at some point, for engine start. The problem is that it isn't, it's 0V. For now, I improvised and made the T10/10 a +15. This is not very nice solution.
(and to be fair, it makes the converter box obsolete too). I need to check out why this is.
I suppose you mean to the T73b/51 pin which is the 75x input signal to the BCM indicating that 75 terminal is active (from J680 relay). Or maybe you mean to the T73b/50 pin which is a input signal to the BCM (starter signal).
T10/10 is an output signal from the J935 converter in order to activate relay J329 (to supply +15).
Power to J935 is through T10/7 (+30).
J907 also informs via T7b/6 pin (D) of the starter process to the other units (According to the equipment).
Your diagrams: Beetle https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... UdUdDZrSms , from here.
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Apart:
Hmm... maybe you need a BCM for Kessy.
Specified in ETKA.
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As for coding:
I have reviewed some Autoscans (Jetta & Beetle) in addition to, test to activate also the following Bits:
Byte 26 Bit4
Byte 28 Bit5
And tell us the results or faults.
The most interesting thing would be to get the .csv BCM adapmap file from a Beetle with kessy.
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
It's T73a/55 to converter box T10/5. I thought I ninja-edited it, but it seems not.
T73a/55 is giving 0V, and thus preventing any terminal 50 activity to the ECU.
Converter box J935 T10/...
...1 = terminal 50 output, 'start engine' signal. output when active = 12V?
...2 = GND
...3 = GND (only in beetle, not in Jetta)
...4 = terminal 75 input signal, from J764 T16/6
...5 = terminal 50s, from T73a/55. this is short to T10/1, when T10/6 is given input signal
...6 = terminal 50 input signal, from J764 T16/12 'start engine' signal
...7 = +12V terminal 30 power supply
...8 = terminal 15 input signal, from J764 T16/8
...9 = terminal 75 output signal, to terminal 75 relay or BCM. output when active = 12V
...10 = terminal 15 output signal, to terminal 15 relay or BCM. output when active = 12V
it's a bit confusing that sometimes the terminal 75 and terminal 15 switch names and sometimes the terminal 86 is also involved.
Example, a bit like the epic image compositions of firegrafik (the master, I really appreciate them)
PS, byte 17 bit 1 doesn't appear to do much. T73a/55 is still 0V all the time
Might need some more wires to T73a...
T73a/55 is giving 0V, and thus preventing any terminal 50 activity to the ECU.
Converter box J935 T10/...
...1 = terminal 50 output, 'start engine' signal. output when active = 12V?
...2 = GND
...3 = GND (only in beetle, not in Jetta)
...4 = terminal 75 input signal, from J764 T16/6
...5 = terminal 50s, from T73a/55. this is short to T10/1, when T10/6 is given input signal
...6 = terminal 50 input signal, from J764 T16/12 'start engine' signal
...7 = +12V terminal 30 power supply
...8 = terminal 15 input signal, from J764 T16/8
...9 = terminal 75 output signal, to terminal 75 relay or BCM. output when active = 12V
...10 = terminal 15 output signal, to terminal 15 relay or BCM. output when active = 12V
it's a bit confusing that sometimes the terminal 75 and terminal 15 switch names and sometimes the terminal 86 is also involved.
Example, a bit like the epic image compositions of firegrafik (the master, I really appreciate them)
PS, byte 17 bit 1 doesn't appear to do much. T73a/55 is still 0V all the time
Might need some more wires to T73a...
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
It's very easy iichel, e.g. +30 = Milliarium Aureum (+15,+75,+86,+50 ... all roads lead to Rome).
All positive signals are specified in the Beetle diagrams, it is not necessary to rename them. Each of them has its mission and its moment, conditioned by your actions, the relays and the units that transform these positive signals into each other. All them are important and none them is the same as the other.
If you re-condition one of those signals are renamed, e.g. 15a, 50a, etc ...
It is the same as a normal Ignition/starter switch (D) but controlled by units and relays. (check it out)
The last condition for 50a is the BCM, so ... Coding, Adaptation, a new BCM for kessy?
All positive signals are specified in the Beetle diagrams, it is not necessary to rename them. Each of them has its mission and its moment, conditioned by your actions, the relays and the units that transform these positive signals into each other. All them are important and none them is the same as the other.
If you re-condition one of those signals are renamed, e.g. 15a, 50a, etc ...
It is the same as a normal Ignition/starter switch (D) but controlled by units and relays. (check it out)
The last condition for 50a is the BCM, so ... Coding, Adaptation, a new BCM for kessy?
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
I'm not sure the BCM itself is the problem. In the beetle 5C1 and new Jetta, the normal ignition lock also involves the converter box J935 and T73a/55.
It's not that the T73a/55 is exclusive to the kessy system. It's present in all cars. My current 7E0 937 090 has the necessary pins for kessy (T73a/47, /55).
Concerning the names, you're right. I've 'translated' them into the names that make sense for me. Maybe it's better to name them with the J324 J680 J681 etc. No confusion
edit 1:
T73a/55 is also present in the Polo 6R, but only in the wiring scheme for the 6-speed automatic gearbox. ELSAWIN 96/2
edit 2:
my T73a/ inside
It's not that the T73a/55 is exclusive to the kessy system. It's present in all cars. My current 7E0 937 090 has the necessary pins for kessy (T73a/47, /55).
Concerning the names, you're right. I've 'translated' them into the names that make sense for me. Maybe it's better to name them with the J324 J680 J681 etc. No confusion
edit 1:
T73a/55 is also present in the Polo 6R, but only in the wiring scheme for the 6-speed automatic gearbox. ELSAWIN 96/2
edit 2:
my T73a/ inside
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
The key to a live T73a/55 is probably in the adaptation channels. None of the long codings of the Jetta does it for me now... Still no activity on it.
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
Maybe. You must get the BCM adaptation channels from a Beetle with kessy to compare.
This morning I tried with all possible Bytes on my 6R and no fault was reported in the Autoscan.
This morning I tried with all possible Bytes on my 6R and no fault was reported in the Autoscan.
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
autoscan VW beetle with kessy:
adapmap BCM:
now time for number crunching
my bcm:
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Saturday,04,March,2017,14:22:29:62066
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 111 11111 011111
VIN: WVWZZZ16ZCM License Plate:
Mileage: 63520km-39469mi Repair Order:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chassis Type: 16 (6R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 44 55 56
VIN: WVWZZZ16ZCM Mileage:
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCZ) Labels: 06J-907-115-CCZ.clb
Part No SW: 06J 906 027 AJ HW: 06J 907 309 A
Component: MED17.5.2 04 2159
Revision: P3H07--- Serial number:
Coding: 0403000C1C070160
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 73EFD9B312475AD9E4-8026
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 057 C HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 511 2726
Revision: 05351113 Serial number: 00001108031637
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 1933CB1BD06BC0890E-804C
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 907 379 C HW: 5C0 907 379 C
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0156
Revision: 00H31001
Coding:
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E5908C779E537314B-807A
1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 141
Mileage: 63479 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.02.17
Time: 16:33:10
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 32768
Count: 12800
Count: 397
Count: 50944
Count: 0
Count: 65275
Count: 0
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 A HW: 5K0 959 434 A
Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 085 0802
Revision: 00085000 Serial number: 0152699723
Coding: 030C0C
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP A01018
ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
VCID: 336F19B39AC71AD924-8066
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 907 044 N HW: 5C0 907 044 N
Component: Climatronic 043 0203
Revision: 00001001
Coding: 3010004002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00233
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW32.rod
VCID: 2E5908C771E537314B-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 088 F HW: 6R0 937 088
Component: BCM PQ25 Re4 H50 0352
Revision: BU050001 Serial number: 04571045120169
Coding: 6CB8697B0801080008A809916E0F84C4F8C2670F60851841B2E004010000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 4183437BD87BB849A6-8014
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AQ HW: 6R0 959 801 AQ Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 1060
Serial number: KU0KU012121200015262
Coding: 0CBC34
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BD HW: 6R0 959 802 BD Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 1060
Serial number: KU0KU014121200012026
Coding: 0CBC34
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5C5 959 591 HW: 5K0 959 591
Component: J245 PS71.023 H09 0007
Serial number: WRH000488A0
Coding: 381000
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5C0 959 442 HW: 5C0 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-TK6 H02 0103
Serial number: 30000000000000388094
Coding: E30000
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 1Q0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 5C5 919 475 HW: 7E0 919 475 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H10 0005
Revision: -------- Serial number: 83491133900210
Coding: 108101
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00125
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW3240000 001004
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW3240000.rod
VCID: 70E5D6BFAB5161C119-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 F HW: 5C0 959 655 F
Component: AirbagVW10 013 0613
Serial number: 003JQM007V0M
Coding: 0000424B
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
VCID: 356B27AB94B304E90A-8060
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME3B476368ZZZ+
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME4E657468ZZZ5
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 5C5 920 870 HW: 5C5 920 870
Component: KOMBI H10 0015
Revision: X0010005 Serial number:
Coding: 150B01
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00125
ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04305
ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_VW32.rod
VCID: 67D7BDE39E9FA67948-8032
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 6R0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H38 0035
Revision: H38 Serial number: 05021201300171
Coding: 254080
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 346D1AAF97C91DE13D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5C5 920 870
Component: IMMO H10 0015
Revision: X0010005 Serial number:
Coding: 000007
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00125
ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01301
ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW21.rod
VCID: 6AD1C4D78D8D9B1157-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 A HW: 5K0 905 861 A
Component: ELV-PQ35 H20 0230
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 11000245748003
Coding: 4900000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
VCID: 2E5908C771E537314B-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E HW: 5N0 035 342 E
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7661805893
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2953FBDB400B50099E-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70 3201
Revision: 00H20000
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 346D1AAF57C91DE13D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0310000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW32.rod
VCID: 77F7EDA3CE3F36F9D8-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J0503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 F HW: 3C8 035 195 F
Component: Radio RCD510 050 0207
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z3M8222131
Coding: 01000400040002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2B5F01D34AF742196C-807E
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:38)--------------------------
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;SW:6R0-937-088-F HW:6R0-937-088 --- Cent. Elect.
;Component:BCM PQ25 Re4 H50 0352 Coding:6CB8697B0801080008A809916E0F84C4F8C2670F60851841B2E004010000
;Saturday 4 March 2017 14:31:12:62066
;VCDS Version: Release 17.1.3 (x64) Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
;VCID: 4183437BD87BB849A6-8014
Channel Field 1 Field 2 Field 3 Field 4
1 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 ERROR: Channel 02 Not Available
3 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
13 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
14 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
15 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
16 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
17 ERROR: Channel 17 Not Available
18 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
19 ERROR: Channel 19 Not Available
20 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
21 ERROR: Channel 21 Not Available
22 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
23 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
24 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
25 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
26 ERROR: Channel 26 Not Available
27 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
28 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
29 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
30 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
31 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
32 40 N/A N/A N/A N/A
33 80 N/A N/A N/A N/A
34 30 N/A N/A N/A N/A
35 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
36 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
37 80 N/A N/A N/A N/A
38 21 N/A N/A N/A N/A
39 20 N/A N/A N/A N/A
40 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A
41 20 N/A N/A N/A N/A
42 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A
43 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A
44 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A
45 100 N/A N/A N/A N/A
46 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
47 15 N/A N/A N/A N/A
48 15 N/A N/A N/A N/A
49 ERROR: Channel 49 Not Available
50 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
51 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
52 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
53 ERROR: Channel 53 Not Available
54 ERROR: Channel 54 Not Available
55 ERROR: Channel 55 Not Available
56 ERROR: Channel 56 Not Available
57 ERROR: Channel 57 Not Available
58 ERROR: Channel 58 Not Available
59 ERROR: Channel 59 Not Available
60 ERROR: Channel 60 Not Available
61 ERROR: Channel 61 Not Available
62 ERROR: Channel 62 Not Available
63 ERROR: Channel 63 Not Available
64 ERROR: Channel 64 Not Available
65 ERROR: Channel 65 Not Available
66 ERROR: Channel 66 Not Available
67 ERROR: Channel 67 Not Available
68 ERROR: Channel 68 Not Available
69 ERROR: Channel 69 Not Available
70 ERROR: Channel 70 Not Available
71 ERROR: Channel 71 Not Available
72 ERROR: Channel 72 Not Available
73 ERROR: Channel 73 Not Available
74 ERROR: Channel 74 Not Available
75 ERROR: Channel 75 Not Available
76 ERROR: Channel 76 Not Available
77 ERROR: Channel 77 Not Available
78 ERROR: Channel 78 Not Available
79 ERROR: Channel 79 Not Available
80 ERROR: Channel 80 Not Available
81 ERROR: Channel 81 Not Available
82 ERROR: Channel 82 Not Available
83 ERROR: Channel 83 Not Available
84 ERROR: Channel 84 Not Available
85 ERROR: Channel 85 Not Available
86 ERROR: Channel 86 Not Available
87 ERROR: Channel 87 Not Available
88 ERROR: Channel 88 Not Available
89 ERROR: Channel 89 Not Available
90 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
91 ERROR: Channel 91 Not Available
92 ERROR: Channel 92 Not Available
93 ERROR: Channel 93 Not Available
94 ERROR: Channel 94 Not Available
95 ERROR: Channel 95 Not Available
96 ERROR: Channel 96 Not Available
97 ERROR: Channel 97 Not Available
98 ERROR: Channel 98 Not Available
99 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
my bcm:
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;SW:7E0-937-090 HW:7E0-937-090 --- Cent. Elect.
;Component:BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733 Coding:3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A273EFE08D78D020E050032800
;Saturday 4 March 2017 18:41:02:62066
;VCDS Version: Release 17.1.3 (x64) Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
;VCID: 68D5BEDF9B81A90141-803C
Channel Field 1 Field 2 Field 3 Field 4
1 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 ERROR: Channel 02 Not Available
3 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
4 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
5 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
6 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
7 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
8 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
9 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
10 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
11 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
12 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
13 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
14 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
15 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
16 ERROR: Channel 16 Not Available
17 ERROR: Channel 17 Not Available
18 ERROR: Channel 18 Not Available
19 ERROR: Channel 19 Not Available
20 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
21 ERROR: Channel 21 Not Available
22 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
23 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
24 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
25 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
26 ERROR: Channel 26 Not Available
27 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
28 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
29 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
30 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
31 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
32 50 N/A N/A N/A N/A
33 50 N/A N/A N/A N/A
34 20 N/A N/A N/A N/A
35 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
36 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
37 80 N/A N/A N/A N/A
38 21 N/A N/A N/A N/A
39 15 N/A N/A N/A N/A
40 14 N/A N/A N/A N/A
41 20 N/A N/A N/A N/A
42 10 N/A N/A N/A N/A
43 4 N/A N/A N/A N/A
44 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A
45 70 N/A N/A N/A N/A
46 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
47 30 N/A N/A N/A N/A
48 30 N/A N/A N/A N/A
49 ERROR: Channel 49 Not Available
50 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
51 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
52 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
53 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
54 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
55 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
56 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
57 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
58 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
59 1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
60 200 N/A N/A N/A N/A
61 200 N/A N/A N/A N/A
62 5 N/A N/A N/A N/A
63 21 N/A N/A N/A N/A
64 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
65 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
66 3 N/A N/A N/A N/A
67 8 N/A N/A N/A N/A
68 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
69 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
70 20 N/A N/A N/A N/A
71 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
72 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
73 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
74 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
75 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
76 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
77 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
78 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
79 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
80 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
81 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
82 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
83 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
84 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
85 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
86 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
87 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
88 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
89 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
90 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
91 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
92 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
93 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
94 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
95 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
96 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
97 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
98 ERROR: Channel 98 Not Available
99 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
Thanks guys for the support.
My plan now:
1. Remove Kessy fuse
2. Revert to original coding of 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A073EFE08D78D0228400030800
3. Try to get T73a/55 active, as it sort of is part of the immobiliser (either BCM coding or adaptations)
4. Revert to kessy configuration, with a live T73a/55
After this, I'll continue work on the elec steering lock. Maybe it's the BCM that's causing some issues.
ciclo I think that's simply the audible feedback for Terminal 75. Hear click to continue ignition
My plan now:
1. Remove Kessy fuse
2. Revert to original coding of 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A073EFE08D78D0228400030800
3. Try to get T73a/55 active, as it sort of is part of the immobiliser (either BCM coding or adaptations)
4. Revert to kessy configuration, with a live T73a/55
After this, I'll continue work on the elec steering lock. Maybe it's the BCM that's causing some issues.
ciclo I think that's simply the audible feedback for Terminal 75. Hear click to continue ignition
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Re: retrofitting kessy to the Polo 6R
Because for BCM PQ25 there is hardly any information in the function descriptions, everything is always assumptions and tests.
BCMs comparison Beetle 2012 vs iichel's Polo(last BCM coding)
Long coding
Byte17 Bit1 ... Hmm, maybe this Bit is for T73a/55 output (it's an assumption, not sure ).
Elsawin, search J682, J935... e.g. take a look at New Bora 2014 engine and kessy diagrams, also Jetta (AW0) & Beetle, compare with your 11' 6R CFWA (7L6)
Byte25 Bit6 ... Opening comfort through Kessy (if my translation from German is correct )
;LC,25,1,KESSY Wieder?ffnung ESchiebet?r
;LC,25,3,KESSY ?ffnung Heckdeckel bei Wiederentriegelung
;LC,25,4,KESSY Komfort-Reichweitenbegrenzung Verdeck
;LC,25,5,Komfortschlie?en ?ber Kessy
;LC,25,6,Komfort?ffnen ?ber Kessy
;LC,25,7,Verbau Kessy
Adaptation Channels
16,available (Kessy or sunroof?)
18,available (Kessy or sunroof?)
The most curious of all this is that the ETKA defines the BCM 6R0937088F for vehicles without kessy ...
BCMs comparison Beetle 2012 vs iichel's Polo(last BCM coding)
Long coding
Byte17 Bit1 ... Hmm, maybe this Bit is for T73a/55 output (it's an assumption, not sure ).
Elsawin, search J682, J935... e.g. take a look at New Bora 2014 engine and kessy diagrams, also Jetta (AW0) & Beetle, compare with your 11' 6R CFWA (7L6)
Byte25 Bit6 ... Opening comfort through Kessy (if my translation from German is correct )
;LC,25,1,KESSY Wieder?ffnung ESchiebet?r
;LC,25,3,KESSY ?ffnung Heckdeckel bei Wiederentriegelung
;LC,25,4,KESSY Komfort-Reichweitenbegrenzung Verdeck
;LC,25,5,Komfortschlie?en ?ber Kessy
;LC,25,6,Komfort?ffnen ?ber Kessy
;LC,25,7,Verbau Kessy
Adaptation Channels
16,available (Kessy or sunroof?)
18,available (Kessy or sunroof?)
The most curious of all this is that the ETKA defines the BCM 6R0937088F for vehicles without kessy ...