ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

[ciclo]

Hi Dave v. (welcome)

At a quick glance. It's a coding problem, I'll tell you the BCM coding tomorrow.

Thanks Ciclo, appreciated.

This BCM coding should solve the problem (and more things) of DRL's and Parking / Side lights (led module) if everything is properly wired. Copy from here and paste it.

B8A020380E212021002800913C2B84505200660F60051040300000020000

It is a first BCM coding, it may be necessary to recode again once you report the results.


I need (to know):
Model Year. (tenth digit of VIN)
The first Autoscan you made to your T5 (the oldest you have). Search in logs folder VCDS program.


Another question because you modified BCM coding. (Logically)
Do you have front fog lights installed?

[Dave v]

Hi Dave v. (welcome)

At a quick glance. It's a coding problem, I'll tell you the BCM coding tomorrow.

Thanks Ciclo, appreciated.

This BCM coding should solve the problem (and more things) of DRL's and Parking / Side lights (led module) if everything is properly wired. Copy from here and paste it.

B8A020380E212021002800913C2B84505200660F60051040300000020000

It is a first BCM coding, it may be necessary to recode again once you report the results.


I need (to know):
Model Year. (tenth digit of VIN)
The first Autoscan you made to your T5 (the oldest you have). Search in logs folder VCDS program.


Another question because you modified BCM coding. (Logically)
Do you have front fog lights installed?

Hi Ciclo

I'll try the coding when I return home from work later

The model year is 09 (first of the 5.1/GP's, registered in 2010)

Not sure I can provide the oldest scan, this was back in 2015 on a laptop that's now replaced- This was when the 086 BCM was in place, is there anything particular you'd like to know?

I haven't yet fitted fog lights, on the very long list of things to do

Thanks again for your help and PM, apologies I've not been granted rights to PM so can't reply yet.

[ciclo]

Ok, ok, no problem, 2010, 086BCM, no fogs, that's enough for me.

We wait for the results here in my topic, do not hurry, check all lights one by one.

[Dave v]

Ok, ok, no problem, 2010, 086BCM, no fogs, that's enough for me.

We wait for the results here in my topic, do not hurry, check all lights one by one.

I've used the coding provided with the following results:

LED's continue not to work but do have the top half now flashing once on ignition.

T73b/5&6 have batt voltage with ignition on, this drops to circs 3.5v when the light switch is turned to side light and dipped beam- assume this is the PWM? it differs from previous, the pins had circa .8v measured when connected to T14.

Lamp indicator is lit when light switch is positioned to side lights

Everything else appears to work as before, eg fine- Although continue to wonder what the side light position is supposed to function on Bi Xenons, T10/10 which is believe to be the side lights isn't connected to T14

Updated scan below, if it helps I don't yet have auto lights or the dimmer switch installed.

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC) Labels: 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 CH HW: 03L 907 309 K
Component: R4 2,0L EDC X31 9126
Revision: 26X31--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 01194012231400080000
Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH 002012
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH_002.rod
VCID: 6DD1A8F5BC7F942914-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 E HW: 7E0 907 379 E
Component: ESP MK25A XT H43 0103
Revision: 00H43001
Coding: 508724AD89A50A9824A89171A96710
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
VCID: 34677D9197D505E11B-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 04: Steering Angle Labels:
VCID: 55A1E015ACEF3CE9CC-9634


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: 7E5-907-047.clb
Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BG HW: 7E5 907 047 BG
Component: Climatic-T5 H20 0506
Revision: 00001012
Coding: 0000000002
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaticT5.rod
VCID: 75E18095D42F5CE9EC-8020

1 Fault Found:
13701936 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 86
Mileage: 145936 km
Date: 2017.05.23
Time: 20:20:03


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H72 0708
Revision: B9072001 Serial number: 0531 053120030
Coding: B8A020380E212021002800913C2B84505200660F60051040300000020000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 6BD5A6ED8A6B9A190A-803E

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C HW: 7E0 959 801 C Labels: 7E0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 0304
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 050000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C HW: 7E0 959 802 C Labels: 7E0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 0308
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 040000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C HW: 5K0 959 542 C Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H31 0037
Serial number: 0912947
Coding: 820000

1 Fault Found:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 86
Mileage: 145936 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.23
Time: 20:18:11


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 A HW: 7E0 959 655 A
Component: VW10Airbag00Y H05 0011
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003E5000CS7Q
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003059
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
VCID: 34677D919FD505E11B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 E HW: 7E0 920 970 E
Component: KOMBI H04 0305
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 160A00
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod
VCID: 2C5765F147E55D2143-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H72 0708
Revision: B9072001
Coding: 042300
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 70EFB181A34D79C13F-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0305
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6ADBA3E98D91831171-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 AA HW: 5M0 035 186 AA
Component: Radio RCD310 013 0036
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: VWZ1Z2I6830021
Coding: 0500020002
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
VCID: 6BD5A6ED8A6B9A190A-803E

1 Fault Found:
03138 - Input AUX IN
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 86
Mileage: 145936 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.23
Time: 20:18:57


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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F HW: 1K0 907 383 F
Component: ConWysTrailer H07 0100
Revision: 3A001001 Serial number: 00000132425721
Coding: 0100000100000000
Shop #: WSC 00007 223 174336
VCID: 306F718163CD39C17F-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 0B: Sec. Air Heating Labels:
VCID: 55A1E015ACEF3CE9CC-95D0


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:04)--------------------------

Thanks again

[iichel]

The error in the BCM and climatronic are maybe related to the missing button backlight signal. Do your buttons in the interior have illumination (i.e. elec window switches) when the parking lights are on?

In the Polo 6R, we run a wire from T73b/4 to the dimmer. In your case to T6/3 on the dimmer.
But in Elsawin, it shows that it is maybe already there. It could run rom T73b/1 or T73b/4. But ciclo probably knows better.

The coding for the xenon/LED, I'm not sure what goes wrong. Around 7V for PWM to T14/12 is what I remember from the bi-xenon LEDs.

[Dave v]

The error in the BCM and climatronic are maybe related to the missing button backlight signal. Do your buttons in the interior have illumination (i.e. elec window switches) when the parking lights are on?

In the Polo 6R, we run a wire from T73b/4 to the dimmer. In your case to T6/3 on the dimmer.
But in Elsawin, it shows that it is maybe already there. It could run rom T73b/1 or T73b/4. But ciclo probably knows better.

The coding for the xenon/LED, I'm not sure what goes wrong. Around 7V for PWM to T14/12 is what I remember from the bi-xenon LEDs.

Hi

I've probably made a mistake in not providing the detail around the actual light switch/dimmer/auto lights, apologies if this is/has caused confusion, as I have the correct presentation to the original T10 to the original lights I didn't think this would be relevant.

When I installed the 090 BCM I did this without replacing the original light switch which has a T17 connector without the auto light/front fogs functions- This is on my list of things to do once I install front fogs and RLS.

I used Elsa and Cilco's guide to get the correct feeds to the BCM to operate all lighting, when required using new outputs from the BCM to fuse boards to feed DRL's, dipped beam etc including reverse light. This set up has worked fine, no fault codes, warning lamps etc.

This set doesn't have the interior dimmer control, so not surprised by the fault codes now reporting.

I did record everything I did but due to the laptop issue haven't got the file- If needed I can audit and provide detail of how T17 feeds the BCM, the BCM to the lights.

Thanks guys, really do appreciate all the support.

[Dave v]

The error in the BCM and climatronic are maybe related to the missing button backlight signal. Do your buttons in the interior have illumination (i.e. elec window switches) when the parking lights are on?

Sorry, to answer the first question- All interior illumination works fine (other than dimming) with the side lights on

[ciclo]

The error in the BCM and climatronic are maybe related to the missing button backlight signal. Do your buttons in the interior have illumination (i.e. elec window switches) when the parking lights are on?

This coding solves those errors --> BCM Byte21 Bit1 enabled

so, B8A020380E212021002800913C2B84505200660F60071040300000020000

Or Byte23 Bit0 enabled if T73b/1 BCM<-->T6/3 Dimmer, it does not appear to be in this way connected, but it is the right way for his BCM Max.

I've used the coding provided with the following results:
...
...
Thanks again

Please, do this and upload the csv file to a server so I can check.

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I'm afraid some signals from the light switch and Dimmer to the BCM conectors are not well connected.

Check

Light Switch:
DRLs signal = from T17/3 or T10/9 to T73b/29
Side/parking lights signal = from T17/16 or T10/3 to T73a/45 (a single 0,5mm wire)
T17/17 or T10/10 is the input signal (58d from T6/5 Dimmer) for backlighting of light switch.
Dimmer:
T73b/1 to T6/3 (as mentioned)

With BCM Max and Bixenon headlights the electrical installation (wires) of the rear side/parking lights is separated from the front side/parking lights. This is mandatory due to the led module.

Rear:
T73a/ 40.41 (already connected this way from the factory)
Front
T73b/ 5,6

I know it's difficult, but make a scheme of the changes you did in your electrical installation. I think it will be the easiest way to solve this. It's very easy for me.



quote="Dave v": Lamp indicator is lit when light switch is positioned to side lights.
Check the T10-T14 harness, something is wrong here.

[germandna]

Gannu good job. Everything you said about the ciclo is totally true, it's really fantastic. On your car, it is a 1.6 TDI? The dashboard is from a GTI was just connect without electrical changes? I want to put on my Polo the dashboard of Amarok 2h0920971. After you change the dashboard had to program the keys and kilometers? How it was done?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modificat ... uster.html

Thank you very much for your comments about me ... I would like have more time for everyone to try to help as many people as possible ... but lately I do not have time for everyone ... sorry for the dozens of messages, emails, etc...that I could not answer lately

Share is a very healthy action.

Hi Gannu,
this Ajeesh also from india , i need your some help could you please give me a ring to XXXXXXXXXX ?


Edited by ciclo: (I do it for your own benefit, I hope you understand)

Contact Gannu by private message (also in India forum) to give him your personal phone number. Maybe Gannu will never read this message you have written.

[benzinkopf]

New mod/discovery (VCDS)

Backlit Hazard Button. PQ25

No.
Try it with this BCM http://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 75#p520773
However I will have to try it with my previous 7E0937090 BCM

Changed the bcm 090B just now and this backlit work! Will update my latest autoscan in my thread soon. [emoji1360] unfortunately the auto trans not reachable still the same.



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[ciclo]

Changed the bcm 090B just now and this backlit work! Will update my latest autoscan in my thread soon. [emoji1360] unfortunately the auto trans not reachable still the same.

Perfect -->viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&p=520980#p520980

Will update my latest autoscan in my thread soon.

Do it!

unfortunately the auto trans not reachable still the same.

As long as the auto trans unit is reachable by an individual reading, everything will be fine.

[benzinkopf]

Im looking forward for next discovery of taillight ON when rear hatch is open!


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[ciclo]

It would be a good find ... if it was planned by VW for PQ25 (BCM Max).

[ciclo]

on my POLLO 6R.

♪♫♬ one, two... one, two, three, four... 4Nm

[benzinkopf]

on my POLLO 6R.

♪♫♬ one, two... one, two, three, four... 4Nm

Wowie! Real TPMS!!


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