How much were the extras?

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How much were the extras?

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Got some extras on my car and wondering how much they cost when new, can anyone help?

I've got:
- Heated seats
- Sunroof
- Serron Alloys

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And the model and year is......
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I may be wrong but I think heated seats may have only been available as standard with the alcantara seat option or as part of the optional winter pack. The list price of the winter pack was around £350 - £375. The list price of Serron alloys was £140 towards the end of 2015 (I had them on my 6c Polo GTI). I think the panoramic sunroof was something like £900.
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Ricmondo wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:10 pm And the model and year is......
2017 Polo GTI 6N ( I think )
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SRGTD wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:09 pm I may be wrong but I think heated seats may have only been available as standard with the alcantara seat option or as part of the optional winter pack. The list price of the winter pack was around £350 - £375. The list price of Serron alloys was £140 towards the end of 2015 (I had them on my 6c Polo GTI). I think the panoramic sunroof was something like £900.
I've got heated seats on the stock tartan seats, must have been an extra with the winter pack like you said
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The serron alloys were an option I couldn’t see worth it personally, they are 7’ wide where as the standard wheel is 7.5’ wide ?

Looks wise every one has their own opinions I guess that’s why there was a Choice

Heated front seats was indeed a part of the winter pack I believe with heated washer jets and mirrors?
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CarbonChaos wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:34 pm The serron alloys were an option I couldn’t see worth it personally, they are 7’ wide where as the standard wheel is 7.5’ wide ?

Looks wise every one has their own opinions I guess that’s why there was a Choice

Heated front seats was indeed a part of the winter pack I believe with heated washer jets and mirrors?
I had the Serron alloys on my 6c GTI - the reason? The design of the standard Parabolica alloys IMO made them an absolute pig to clean!! When I wash my wheels, I also wash the wheel barrels and the reverse side of the spokes, along with the red brake callipers (I have a set of Wheel Woolies so I can reach the normally difficult to reach parts). With the multi spoke design of the Parabolica alloys, I dread to think how long it would take to thoroughly wash one wheel, let alone all four. The Serron’s being a 7J wheel as opposed to the 7.5J Parabolica’s didn’t bother me - I valued the ease of cleaning the wheels over the extra 1/2” wheel width and (IMO) the overly fussy design of the Parabolica alloys.

Heated mirrors was part of the standard spec and not dependent on having the optional winter pack. In addition to heated seats and heated washer jets, the winter pack included headlamp washers and low washer fluid warning light. Cars with LED headlamps also got headlamp washers and low washer fluid warning light.
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Your 100% right the standard wheels are a pig to clean properly 🤯 takes me longer to clean wheels and arches than all the shiny bits.
The winter pack is one of the options I wish I had spec’d as I’ve got two blanks in the dash
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CarbonChaos wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:10 pm Your 100% right the standard wheels are a pig to clean properly 🤯 takes me longer to clean wheels and arches than all the shiny bits.
The winter pack is one of the options I wish I had spec’d as I’ve got two blanks in the dash
Ironically, even though the Serron’s were easy to clean, I swapped them for a set of VW Motorsport alloys in an anthracite powder coat finish as I don’t like diamond cut alloys. The Motorsport alloys were also easy to clean;
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I kept the Serron alloys and put them back on the car when I sold it last year, and I sold the Motorsport alloys in the ‘for sale’ section of the forum.

I’ve done the same with my new Polo GTI+ (swapped the factory OEM 18” Brescia diamond cut alloys for a set of powder coated alloys). I had to go for aftermarket alloys this time, as VW don’t have any painted / powder coated 18” alloys with a PCD of 5x100 and an adequate load limit for the current Polo GTI. The Brescia’s will go back on the car when the time comes to sell it.
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They still run 5x100 :roll:
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amer6R wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:35 am They still run 5x100 :roll:
Yes, the current model Polo (the AW) has a PCD of 5x100, whereas the majority of VW’s are 5x112, so alloys from, say, the Golf don’t fit the Polo.

I would have kept the Motorsport alloys I had on my last car and fitted them to my current car. However, the front axle weight of the current Polo GTI exceeds the load limit that the Motorsport alloys can safely support, which would have been a safety issue and would have invalidated my insurance - hence why I sold them and bought a set of of aftermarket alloys that have been TUV certified for the AW model Polo GTI.

Why didn’t I just keep the original diamond cut alloys on the car you might ask? I dislike diamond cut alloys, and wish car manufacturers weren’t obsessed with fitting them as standard on many of their cars. Diamond cut alloys have a certain ‘bling’ appeal on a new car sitting in a dealer’s showroom, but that’s the only positive IMO if you like ‘bling’;
  • the durability of the diamond cut finish isn’t great on a car that’s used as a daily driver. The shiny diamond cut finish doesn’t provide a good ‘key’ for the protective lacquer coat to bond to, so if it gets damaged by, say, a stone chip, water, moisture and air can get under the lacquer where the lacquer’s been chipped away causing oxidation (white worm corrosion) on the polished alloy surface, which then spreads over the face of the wheel. It looks unsightly, and to remove it requires the wheel to be refurbished. It’s pretty common for white worm corrosion to appear on diamond cut alloys between 2-3 years old (sometimes sooner). For those who don’t know what it looks like, here’s s mk5 Golf GTI diamond cut alloy with white worm corrosion in a pretty advanced state;
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  • Diamond cut alloys are more expensive to refurbish than alloys with a painted / powder coated finish. Also, because the refurb process involves re-cutting the polished face by removing a layer of metal, they can usually only be refurbished a maximum of two times - more than two refurbs and the structural integrity of the wheel can be compromised.
  • Diamond cut alloys are easily damaged by inexperienced tyres fitters and poorly maintained tyre changing equipment.
Given the choice of alloys with a diamond cut or painted / powder coated finish, I’d go for the painted / powder coated option every time.
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Your write up SRGTD of diamond cut alloys is spot on.

I too wish manufacturers would go for robust rather than bling. Unless you live in a dry, warm and salt free climate then diamond cut alloys are an expensive problem.

My wife's BMW i3 has Type 428 turbine diamond cut alloys. I could see white worm deterioration of the lacquer around the the centre cap on one of the wheels. BMW wouldn't honour the warranty claiming they'd been refurbished, and we have no way of knowing for sure, but did get it refurbished which looked great for about a year.
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spartacus68 wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:51 am Your write up SRGTD of diamond cut alloys is spot on.

I too wish manufacturers would go for robust rather than bling. Unless you live in a dry, warm and salt free climate then diamond cut alloys are an expensive problem.

My wife's BMW i3 has Type 428 turbine diamond cut alloys. I could see white worm deterioration of the lacquer around the the centre cap on one of the wheels. BMW wouldn't honour the warranty claiming they'd been refurbished, and we have no way of knowing for sure, but did get it refurbished which looked great for about a year.
Yes, unfortunately with diamond cut alloys, getting them refurbished tends to be a relatively short term fix as the white worm corrosion is likely to come back. Some alloy wheel refurbishment companies offer a more restrictive warranty on their refurbishment work on diamond cut wheels than they do on wheels with a painted / powder coated finish because of the relatively poor durability of the diamond cut / lacquered finish.

IMO the best chance of keeping diamond cut alloys looking pristine is........take them off the car and put them into storage permanently until the time comes to sell the car. Failing that, if you live in a country with colder, harsher winters and salt is regularly spread on the roads, get a set of steel wheels or painted / powder coated alloys for winter use and keep the diamond cut alloys just for the warmer, drier summer months.

I had a mk6 Golf GTD from new and it had diamond cut alloys. I’m pretty OCD with my cars and I’m into car detailing so I was meticulous in the care of the alloys but spite of that, two of them succumbed to white worm corrosion when they were around 30 months old. VW did replace them under warranty, but it took three or four attempts to get a pair of replacement wheels I was happy with; the replacement wheels I rejected were either damaged or had a poor finish (it looked as if they had been poorly refurbished rather than brand new), or the dealer damaged them when the fitted the tyres to them.

When VW do agree to replace diamond cut alloys under warranty, I do wonder if they get the white wormed wheels refurbished and then use them as replacements under warranty claims; all those white worm wheels will be going somewhere 🤔.
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