Polo 6C, radio dead and lost cruise

[ruggerotrb]

Hello to everyone, I'm Ruggero from Italy.

I have a problem with my polo 6C 1.0 MPI and the radio.

Some months ago my radio stopped to work, it is not possible turn on it, totally dead.

But also cruise control now does not work.

I would like to use this opportunity change my radio with something better, maybe something with Android and with a bigger screen, but also cruise control is very important for me.

Do you have any suggestion to have what I would like to have? At least, what I could do to have again the cruise control?

Some pictures to help, thanks a lot

[iichel]

6c stalks are known to fail but usually the moving hinge and it's electronics fail. So that could explain the failed cruise.

Or cruise has failed due to an error in the ecu, dsg or abs. That's possible as well. It might be completely unrelated to your radio.

I suggest to have your error codes read out and see from there.

[ruggerotrb]

The cruise stopped to work same day of radio, so I think they are linked.
However, in the next days I could try to chech the errors.

[ruggerotrb]

6c stalks are known to fail but usually the moving hinge and it's electronics fail. So that could explain the failed cruise.

Or cruise has failed due to an error in the ecu, dsg or abs. That's possible as well. It might be completely unrelated to your radio.

I suggest to have your error codes read out and see from there.

Here error codes, I have VCDS

Someone have any idea?I suppose cruise does not work for 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010, and it's caused by 5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100, that means basically radio dead.

Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 44 5F

Mileage: 72335km-44946miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB) Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
Part No SW: 04C 906 057 A HW: 04C 907 309 J
Component: R3 1.0l MPI H22 7660
Revision: 31H22000
Coding: 01110012022400080000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057A 001009
ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906057A.rod
VCID: 2345598D2AD5FF52E8-8076

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
Component: ESP9.0i H03 0002
Serial number: 08507397140131
Coding: 21DD2485492433C00916006D005A842492CC90000005C5090C00
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100015
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
VCID: 6CD772B1878BF02A19-8038

1 Fault Found:
0604 - Tire Pressure Warning
C102D 00 [137] - -
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 164
Mileage: 72335 km
Date: 2023.05.27
Time: 16:19:06


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 820 045 A HW: 6C0 820 045 A
Component: AC Manuell H02 0103
Serial number: 1403081B-0409
Coding: 200000000000100000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
VCID: 1D316F750CB1C9A2DE-8048

1 Fault Found:
1114115 - Fan 2 Control Circuit
P0693 00 [013] - Short to GND
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 164
Mileage: 72335 km
Date: 2023.05.27
Time: 16:19:49


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:* Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 6C0 937 087 HW: 6C0 937 087
Component: BCM PQ26 Me4R H06 0030
Serial number: 007118002668
Coding: 000008404053005B4F844000400703400000590051010000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 004001
ROD: EV_MQBA0.rod
VCID: 6BD571AD8285F71210-803E

Drivers Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AT HW: 6R0 959 801 AT Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU021021440520005
Coding: 0000A0

Front Passengers Door Control Module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BE HW: 6R0 959 802 BE Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU027021440580637
Coding: 1000A0

Drivers Door Rear Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 N HW: 6R0 959 811 N
Component: J388__TSG_HL 003 8610
Serial number: KU0KU025021440561056
Coding: 0000A0

Passengers Rear Door Control Module:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 N HW: 6R0 959 812 N
Component: J389__TSG_HR 003 8610
Serial number: KU0KU026021440574841
Coding: 1000A0

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 F HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H03 0142
Revision: -------- Serial number: 39331407201424
Coding: 0011051001
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW26.rod
VCID: 3E7388F9A177B2BAE7-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 A HW: 6C0 959 655 A
Component: VW20Airbag01B 001 0330
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003LM007YB6I
Coding: 88C0C000000000005C0000CA000800000000
Shop #: WSC 48161 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
VCID: 3169A3C560295DC26A-8064

Side Sensor Driver Front:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 410 822 702 14
Component: SideSensor_Df 151 0800
Serial number: 3575H00B313B83B2C36P
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Front:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 410 822 702 14
Component: SideSensor_Pf 151 0800
Serial number: 3585H009B12D14A3709M
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Driver Rear:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 442 150 703 14
Component: SideSensor_Dr 1CA 0148
Serial number: 3517A0018283B2A8B8CO
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 442 150 703 14
Component: SideSensor_Pr 1CA 0148
Serial number: 3527A0012283B2A985BD
Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 6C0 920 730 C HW: 6C0 920 730 C
Component: KOMBI 109 0260
Coding: 0724090021000008000808001000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009036
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 2149538530C9ED42FA-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
Part No SW: 6C0 909 901 HW: 6C0 937 087
Component: GW MQB A0 H06 0030
Revision: -------- Serial number: 007118002668
Coding: 01000008200A640071000000000000000001000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 001001
ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_001_VW26.rod
VCID: 65C107956461C16246-8030

1 Fault Found:
131699 - Control unit for information electronics 1
U1054 00 [009] - No Communication
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 164
Mileage: 72335 km
Date: 2023.05.27
Time: 16:23:04

Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 13.7 V
Terminal 15: On


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792) Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 M HW: 6C1 909 144 D
Component: EPS_TRW_ALow 312 3211
Serial number: PE3J0315
Coding: 0007
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
VCID: 326BACC9652F66DA13-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:08)--------------------------

[iichel]

Looks like your radio is dead. Either the radio itself or wiring/fuse

[RUM4MO]

Can you clear the TPMS logged fault within the ABS controller, maybe that is enough to stop CC working, ie maybe any fault within ABS controller will disable CC as the road speed depends on ABS wheel speed sensor data to work - just a thought, that is all.

[iichel]

On second look I'd also suggest to have the radiator fan looked at. Looks like it's having an error and it could cause your AC to stop working. By design.

[ruggerotrb]

Ok guys, I went in a VW center

1) about the radio, it's dead, probably the problem is the temperature, some bga chip are dead, like previous model of Xbox 360, same defect.

2) about the cruise, probably I have to charge the part outside, I don't know the english name, but it's the one for the light directions, so...some of you know the spare part code?

It look like this one

https://www.ebay.it/itm/403928612600?ch ... gKYT_D_BwE

But I don't know if is the same of Golf or there are some differences..

[iichel]

I'll need your VIN for the correct part, it's the steering column combination switch, or stalks, they go by several names. 6C0953502 A/B/C... Golf parts won't fit.

[ruggerotrb]

I'll need your VIN for the correct part, it's the steering column combination switch, or stalks, they go by several names. 6C0953502 A/B/C... Golf parts won't fit.

Ok, is one of these two codes?

6R ABCHYB FM5FM5CF008N2VR07MM

WVWZZZ6RZFY010249

[Maarten]

The WVW one is your vin

[ruggerotrb]

The WVW one is your vin

Ok perfect, now I'm waiting for instruction about what I need to buy with the correct code

[iichel]

For your car you'll need the 6C0 953 513 C. It is plug and play. Remember to center the clock spring and wheels when you replace it.

[ruggerotrb]

Ok, many thanks, I will try to do it