Lowered or not lowered: this is the question

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Lowered or not lowered: this is the question

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In June 2025, it will be 3 years since the car is lowered.

3 years and over 90000/100000 km.
By the past, I went for the cheapest lowering setup as:

-Bilstein B14
-EIBACH lowering spring: 6R0071677

But now I consider to switch back to stock setup for few reasons:

-Comfort
-Cabine rattle: when the weather is cold and the roads are bad, I have some rattles inside the car and it's driving me crazy.

BUT !

The way the car looks stock is...meh. The front is OK, but the back is way way too high. VW, what did you do ?
I already considered the fact of switching rim from 16" to 17"

Stock car (few years ago):
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Lowering spring installed:
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What are your opinions ?
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Buying and fitting the rear springs maybe from Lesjofors that are for a "GT 3 door" will mean getting -15mm or -16mm springs that will allow the car to sit near enough level - I accidentally did that to my wife's 2015 Polo 1.2TSI 110PS 6MT. Correct Lesjofors springs on the front.

Edit:- for information front springs Lesjofors 4095103 rear springs Lesjofors 4295099
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RUM4MO wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:03 pm Buying and fitting the rear springs maybe from Lesjofors that are for a "GT 3 door" will mean getting -15mm or -16mm springs that will allow the car to sit near enough level - I accidentally did that to my wife's 2015 Polo 1.2TSI 110PS 6MT. Correct Lesjofors springs on the front.

Edit:- for information front springs Lesjofors 4095103 rear springs Lesjofors 4295099
Thank you for your help.

The funny thing is: when I selected my Polo 6C model (6C 1.2 TSI 16V, 5 doors) I had the same part number like you share to me.
It is also inticated that "Incl GT".

Unfortunately, there is no tech spec.
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I ended up installing the BlueGT rear springs on my 6R with factory R-line front suspension (-15mm) and normal factory rear suspension (not the optional -15mm).
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Neither good nor bad, just right, happy with the aesthetics, comfort and driving.

In erWin you have all the technical specifications of suspensions, brakes, etc. in case they can be useful to you.
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Seems to be a great combo !

You are on 17" rims ?
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Yes 17" rims.
+ve: Good braking even with small brakes.
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Looks great, 16 are ok but I tend to think they are too small.

Do you have part number for both rear and front spring you are currently using ?

I only have information for my VIN and there is a lot PN for Polo 6r/6c on ETKA

EDIT: I just found the part number you used on your main topic for the rear only.
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And to think I'm still +15mm up from that. Damn Cross Polo!

How bad was the ride with the B14 + Eibach springs?
I have the Bilstein B12 kit on my wishlist so just curious.

Doubt your winter rattles and squeaks will go away. I'm on stock suspension since I got it and everything starts to rattle and squeak in this car and it is only now on 97,000km.
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2226 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:05 pm Image

And to think I'm still +15mm up from that. Damn Cross Polo!

How bad was the ride with the B14 + Eibach springs?
I have the Bilstein B12 kit on my wishlist so just curious.

Doubt your winter rattles and squeaks will go away. I'm on stock suspension since I got it and everything starts to rattle and squeak in this car and it is only now on 97,000km.
I'm running on B4, not B14 :roll:

It's OK it the road surface is in good conditon. You feel more the road but it's still comfortable.
On small but it still OK.

The issue is like on portholes or the way they make connection between road and bridge (expansion joint). If they are not at the same level, the suspension is very hard or it is already hitting the bump stop.

When I was stock, I had some rattles but they are solved since. The main one is center vent and on passenger side, the gloveboxe.

I'm waiting some better weather to replace my lower and upper center console.
Lucky me, brand news parts still available and mine are full of scratches. I will use of this moment to see If I can adjust anything or retight some loose screws.
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Add some extra rubber stops or bumpers to take up the rattles especially the glovebox door.
Where a panel runs along metal you can add some foam tape to the panel as well.

Also running 17s with 40-profile tyres, you feel everything too. I cringe every time there's something in the road.
Our municipality outsources pothole repair. Those companies don't fix a pothole permanently since they like coming back and getting paid again for the same job in a month's time. :x
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2226 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:21 pm Add some extra rubber stops or bumpers to take up the rattles especially the glovebox door.
Where a panel runs along metal you can add some foam tape to the panel as well.

Also running 17s with 40-profile tyres, you feel everything too. I cringe every time there's something in the road.
Our municipality outsources pothole repair. Those companies don't fix a pothole permanently since they like coming back and getting paid again for the same job in a month's time. :x
I have some nice felt tape from VW.
Very nice product to remove rattle from part touching each others.
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@ciclo do you remember the Eibach Pro Kit part number you installed at the time ?

On internet I found this one:

EIBACH E10-85-024-01-22

Lowering [mm] :
25, 30
Weight front axle [kg] :
870
Weight rear axle [kg] :
840
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Yes, it is exactly that reference.

On the axle weight identification label of my 6R I have this data:
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A little bird. :)

If you want comfort, opt for OEM springs from a sportier 6R/6C model... BlueGT, GTI, WRC. :?:
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Thanks for the picture :)

Here is mine:
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A little bit heavier at the back :roll:

Did you remember the of the part number of the front and rear spring for the GT ?

Mine is currently lowered with VW Spring kit 6R0071677

860KG
770KG

Comfort was not present with Eibach kit I suppose ? Or I mean, not comfortable as you may expected.
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As you already now, with the Eibach springs designed to lower the height, comfort disappears. With them installed, the car does not pass smoothly over the millions of speed bumps in cities, and even less so on roads in poor condition, the impacts are clearly transmitted to the whole body.
Are they good springs? Yes, without a doubt, but not for daily use or adverse weather conditions. They are only good for roads in good condition.

With ETKA and erWin you can find out the exact suspension references for the BlueGT.

Do a search for images of the BlueGT, GTI and WRC, to get a better idea of ​​what your 6C will look like later...
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