2016 POLO 6c Window switches

[ciclo]

[k31208]

Oh, I know this.
I will post the result after the auto scan and the content of channel 46.

[Maarten]

Try to use English, I'm sure there will be little to no forum members who can read this

[ciclo]

Good idea, however, it is easy to understand the numbers/data from any autoscan in any language.

On this side of the planet when something is not understood at all, it is often said that what one is trying to understand sounds like Chinese to one.

[k31208]

I checked 4 windows wire and fined it without the LIN connection.
I think I can follow the wiring diagram to add wire to it. (replace the motor & switch(J386(E512)/J387(E107)/J388(E52)/J389(E54))

I have some question
1.The switch(E512) is divided into 10-pin(thin) & 12-pin (thick).(Mine is thickpin. )
What's the difference in wiring?
The E512 wiring diagram is 10-pin; is there 12-pin?

2. The motor (J386~J389) is 14-pin total(Attached photos), why the wiring diagram shows that it is 16-pin.

[ciclo]

It's necessary to have the 6R wiring diagrams for the Chinese market so we can answer your questions and determine if this modification is possible for 6R WRMs intended for the Chinese market (14 pin)
.
The European 6R wiring diagrams I posted aren't applicable to your Polo. A comparison isn't possible due to the obvious incompatibility of parts (WRMs 16pin).

[k31208]

I replaced the motor, driver switch and added LINE wire according to the wiring diagram. (VCD was already done)

Now I have 1 problem
When the driver's LINE is connected, the other 3 windows cannot be controlled and the multi-function steering wheel cannot be used.

When the driver's LINE is removed, everything else is normal.

Is there a problem with the connection point? Or anything else that needs to be done?

[ciclo]

Obviously, the electronics aren't compatible.

A quick explanation: your original WRM 6Rs are similar to the European POLO 9N3...
to put it another way, POLO 6R China vs POLO 6R Europe: it's like comparing a POLO Jin QV with a POLO Jin Qin as far as WRMs are concerned.
(I don't know if I explained it well)

[k31208]

Hi Ciclo, thanks for your explanation.
you are right, I replaced the original motor and it is working.
I think it is not suitable for made in China.


another question
how can I achieve this?

[sejuani]

Hi, I think your POLO is a 6R.
For what you intend to do you should study the wiring diagrams, it is a very simple task if you are comfortable with wiring.
There are notable differences in the equipment depending on where the 6Rs were sold, so it is advisable to have the appropriate diagrams. 6R Taiwan 'vs' 6R Europe (for example).

In Taiwan, many people cannot distinguish between 6R and 6C, so most people refer to it as 6C.

[ciclo]

Yes, the 6R family goes until 2022 (AFAIK) depending on the place of manufacture (2010-2014 Europe), and due to the similarities in appearance it is logical to mistake the PLATFORM.
- 6R --> belongs to the platform called PQ25.
- 6C --> belongs to the platform called PQ26.
The main difference between these platforms is the applied electronics.

[ciclo]

Hi Ciclo, thanks for your explanation.
you are right, I replaced the original motor and it is working.
I think it is not suitable for made in China.


another question
how can I achieve this?

As I believe I already mentioned, to get the 'GRA_High' setting on the MFA+ ​​you need to modify the ECU's EEPROM.
You need a tool that can read and write the EEPROM of your car's engine unit, to extract the file, modify it, and upload the modified file again.
You need to know the Byte (offset) and the specific new HEX value that activates the GRA_High setting in your ECU.
I know this value for some ECU but not for yours (1.4 MPI).


For your question via PM about the cruise control emulator (CCE).
Note: I don't answer technical questions via PM, please use the forum, thank you!
The CCE was developed by Slavik (MaDwArLoCk ) and can be installed on any PQ25 with any type of vw steering wheel or buttons of your choice.
Requirements:
- CCS required.

[sejuani]

As I believe I already mentioned, to get the 'GRA_High' setting on the MFA+ ​​you need to modify the ECU's EEPROM.
You need a tool that can read and write the EEPROM of your car's engine unit, to extract the file, modify it, and upload the modified file again.
You need to know the Byte (offset) and the specific new HEX value that activates the GRA_High setting in your ECU.
I know this value for some ECU but not for yours (1.4 MPI).


For your question via PM about the cruise control emulator (CCE).
Note: I don't answer technical questions via PM, please use the forum, thank you!
The CCE was developed by Slavik (MaDwArLoCk ) and can be installed on any PQ25 with any type of vw steering wheel or buttons of your choice.
Requirements:
- CCS required.

Regarding CCE, I have asked Slavik (MaDwArLoCk), and our(me and k31208) ECUs are all 03C 906 014 FR (produced by Magneti Marelli), so we are currently unable to enable GRA-High.

[ciclo]

Thanks for confirming.

For these cases (1.4, 1.6, TDI ...?), I believe, though I'm not sure, that an emulator was also created to display the GRA_High on the IC.
The Russian forum Drive2.ru can provide more information about this.