PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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Re: PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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I totally agree with you 100%, but once you've enjoyed the lane assist with the 2Q0 camera and ALG active, the lane assist with the 3Q0 camera seems like a weak assist to me, and in my humble opinion even dangerous if you're confident or optimistic.
When we evolve to teleportation to move from A to B, with the first teleportation units we'll appear on the other side half human half fly. It's not bad either.😄
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Re: PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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My last experience with 3q0 camera was M sw + modified parameters 600sec from audi q3 8u. It was impressive, because ping-pong effect was at the minimal level. 10 min's of fully hands - and - legs - free :D with no any indications of lane. Only ACC indication.
And since my car is currently going through a second swap (cwva + 5mt -> cave + dq200 -> cczb + dq250 awd), I decided to get rid of the problem of the lack of lane assist indication too radically))) move polo to pq35 :mrgreen:
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Thank you very much for the information provided.👍
It is necessary to have extensive knowledge of both platforms, I wish you the best of luck and success with the progress of your POLO PQ35 project... trully exciting!😎
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Re: PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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MrCollayder wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:29 pm
I couldn't get the P camera to work. No faults, but also no work. Can-combi, A5 activated in the GW, dashboard with lane assist indicator, but nothing. There are 0 lanes recognized by the camera. My bcm is 7e0937090e_0772 from the factory. I've flashed it into 1s0937090m_0780, but nothing.

2 points to think about:
1. Need to check 1s0937090m bcm from the factory, not flashed. Guess, that it has rather different eeprom. Why? Because lane assist button uses the same pin that headlight washer. My flashed 1s0 bcm didn't react to the button, but headlight washer works. Eeprom? 99.9%
2. Dashboard. Up's dash has only indicator. Neither lane assist menus nor pictures. So it seems to me that pq25 sw (polo, amarok, T6) of vdo dash have locked lane assist indications. I'm noy sure, but it really seems to me. Of course, eeprom was corrected, but nothing.
Also dash from UP has an interesting adaptation "Lane assisnt active, yes/no", but no one vdo dash has it. Eeprom again? I doubt it very much.
But there is a good news:
Can powertrain + non-pq25 coding (pq35) makes the camera to work. Yes, there will be a fault in the GW "A5 lost connection" but lane assist will work. Also there won't be any indication on the dash. Because of GW fault.
More detailed (use google translate): https://www.drive2.ru/l/661630848210070242/

Video with 3q0...H_0272 camera https://youtu.be/GlHgts7l-Zg?si=qpWarFjLFSTWFGvx
VCP has a build in BCM PQ25 Parameters editor, I could try but you need to point me to the 1s0 software.
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ciclo wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:14 am Thank you very much for the information provided.👍
It is necessary to have extensive knowledge of both platforms, I wish you the best of luck and success with the progress of your POLO PQ35 project... trully exciting!😎
Thank you =))
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Thanks for sharing and good luck with your conversion project.
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I’ve recently been researching the A5 camera as well.
On a Chinese forum, I found a post about a PQ25 Jetta 1.6 where someone mentioned successfully replacing the A5 camera with a 3Q0 980 654C unit.
I’m currently contacting that person to ask for more details.

https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread ... 462-1.html
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sejuani wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 4:49 pm I’ve recently been researching the A5 camera as well.
On a Chinese forum, I found a post about a PQ25 Jetta 1.6 where someone mentioned successfully replacing the A5 camera with a 3Q0 980 654C unit.
I’m currently contacting that person to ask for more details.

https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread ... 462-1.html
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The Chinese car owner reported that he is unable to provide more detailed information about the A5 camera retrofit, as the Lane Assist. was installed by a modification shop.
He also mentioned that after consulting with others in China who have experience with similar retrofits, so far no one has been able to make the instrument cluster display Lane Assist–related information.
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Re: PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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3Q0980654P Camera is fully working on my T5.2 transporter, But also still also nothing appears on the dashboard, I think pq25 clusters don’t support lane assist
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sejuani wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:19 am
sejuani wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 4:49 pm I’ve recently been researching the A5 camera as well.
On a Chinese forum, I found a post about a PQ25 Jetta 1.6 where someone mentioned successfully replacing the A5 camera with a 3Q0 980 654C unit.
I’m currently contacting that person to ask for more details.

https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread ... 462-1.html
螢幕擷取畫面 2025-10-09 234919.png
The Chinese car owner reported that he is unable to provide more detailed information about the A5 camera retrofit, as the Lane Assist. was installed by a modification shop.
He also mentioned that after consulting with others in China who have experience with similar retrofits, so far no one has been able to make the instrument cluster display Lane Assist–related information.
Because they use my experience from D2 =))
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Re: PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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After a long period of effort and with the help of many people online, I finally got Lane Assist working on my Polo.
Special thanks to MrCollayder for sharing useful information during the process.

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Wednesday,10,June,2026,20:20:02:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20250822 DS365.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: sejuani
Workshop Code: 444 03743 000001

VIN: WVWZZZ60ZHT132658   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2B 3C 44 5F 61 65 77 A5
         

VIN: WVWZZZ60ZHT132658   Mileage: 199880km-124199miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. User\6R0-907-37x-ESP90.lbl
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 CB    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H04 0003  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 61DD2463422603C2861A246E4259C040080F
   Shop #: WSC 03743 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW23.rod
   VCID: 0005DDC29B030A9BC0-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:. 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0350246162 Dataset Number: 5N0116v____ 0002
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3777761E8E4D8D2331-8062

No ASAM data for: "EV_KESSYPQ35G" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 Q    HW: 6R0 907 044 Q
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0615  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 418318C6D889C3938F-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 E    HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0772  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 9502 361220028
   Coding: 3AF82FB828F36A00B33807C07DEB9E91F0CA6300608F21C022E4003B0803
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5B5476741137F35B-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 547 
   Component: RLHS 091221 0  50  0107 
   Coding: 0728DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 EC    HW: 6R0 959 801 EC  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  023 2551 
   Serial number: 13102851160307203215
   Coding: 640000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 EG    HW: 6R0 959 802 EG  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  023 2551 
   Serial number: 13102850160217193348
   Coding: 640000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 6RU 951 171 
   Component: Sensor, DWA 0  005 0502 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 6RU 951 171 
   Component: Sensor, DWA 0  005 0502 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 F    HW: 6C0 959 442 F
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023 
   Serial number: 1831904095200607CE3J
   Coding: 290000

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 S    HW: 6R0 959 811 S
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  022 1552 
   Serial number: 13202728170223141457
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 S    HW: 6R0 959 812 S
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  022 1552 
   Serial number: 13102729170223103338
   Coding: 000000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 C    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0480  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391524704772 Dataset Number: 7N0039v____ 
   Coding: 0031155011
   Shop #: WSC 03743 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3777761E8E4D8D2331-8062

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 199889 km
                    Date: 2026.06.10.
                    Time: 20:14:19


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU0J H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW019WCZB Dataset Number: 00000000000 0001
   Coding: 00304A
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 499300E6E8B90BD357-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 874 D    HW: 6JA 920 940 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0818  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 180C01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW23.rod
   VCID: 30654D026B235A1B70-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0772  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 002206
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 68D5E5629B73D2DB68-803C

1 Fault Found:
03850 - Front Sensor Electronics for Driver Assistance Systems 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 199889 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.10.31.
                    Time: 20:14:25


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0818  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6AD19F6A8D7FE0CB7E-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 D    HW: 5K0 905 861 D
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H22 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 18000133275001
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00081 790 00133
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 31634806602953137F-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| User\5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 C    HW: 5Q0 907 686 C
   Component: HRE_Master    H12 0081  
   Serial number: 0484698770 Dataset Number: V03935276UZ 0001
   Coding: 03031102
   Shop #: WSC 03743 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3D7B6436AC71A773EB-8068

   Lane change assistance control module 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 C    HW: 5Q0 907 685 C
   Component: HRE_Slave  H12 0081 
   Serial number: 0471514014          
   Coding: 030311

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:. 2Qx-909-144-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 2QD 909 144 F    HW: 2QD 909 144 A
   Component: EPS_ECU       420 4220  
   Serial number: 000009.12.21000 Dataset Number: V03935307HU 0001
   Coding: 00000000010000000000020101000100000001000002
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSKGEN3MQB 003008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSKGEN3MQB_VW25.rod
   VCID: 489505E2F3B3F2DB48-801C

No ASAM data for: "EV_SteerAssisNSKGEN3MQB" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5K7 035 200 M    HW: 5K7 035 200 H
   Component: MU-S--ROA     H31 0478  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2S5361886 Dataset Number: V03935249AS 0001
   Coding: 02620000BE0000001111000100003A001F0000D40000010800
   Shop #: WSC 03743 444 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2E59537A71174CEB62-807A

4 Faults Found:
1556 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 87 [00001001] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 199889 km
                    Date: 2026.06.10.
                    Time: 20:14:41

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V
                    System_Software_Error-SW_Status_Consistency: 02 05 00
                    System_Software_Error-SW_Status_Device: B

15360256 - Component Protection 
          U1101 00 [00001001] - Active
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 199889 km
                    Date: 2026.06.10.
                    Time: 20:14:19

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

0001 - Antenna 1 for Radio 
          B1119 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 199889 km
                    Date: 2026.06.10.
                    Time: 20:14:19

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: Open circuit
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: Not available
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Reception level antenna 1: 0 dB V

0003 - Antenna 2 for radio 
          B111A 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 109
                    Mileage: 199889 km
                    Date: 2026.06.10.
                    Time: 20:14:19

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: Open circuit
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: Not available
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Reception level antenna 2: 0 dB V


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: Batt.regelung H82 0772  
   Serial number: 9502 361220028
   Coding: 03020AFE
   Shop #: WSC 03743 444 00001
   VCID: 68D5E5629B73D2DB68-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: -----------
   Component: J367-BDMHella  --- 9070 
   Serial number: 0000000000          

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
   Serial number: 40000000042334 Dataset Number: rdkseditor  0016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
   VCID: 3777761E8E4D8D2331-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:. 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 H    HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
   Component: MQB_B_MFK     H04 0272  
   Serial number: 08041611K11464 Dataset Number: V08154711FU 0001
   Coding: 00020103000A01010024105281800400C0000E010220
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB.rod
   VCID: 3C7D6932B76BAE7BDC-8068

No ASAM data for: "EV_MFKBoschMQBB" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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------------------------------6 Faults Found-------------------------------
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Re: PQ25 R242 3Q0980654P (UP!, etc)

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Congratulations, your next goal should be ACC 8)
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How nice!... where can I find a perfectly documented tutorial on how to do it? :mrgreen:
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