Help needed. Car stalling Rev counter to low!!!
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the_muff2004
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Help needed. Car stalling Rev counter to low!!!
Hey my vw polo rev counter is sitting below the 10 mark. and when im coming to a stop when i put my foot down on the clutch its sometimes causing the car to stall unless i kepp the revs up!
can anyone help??
cheers in advance
can anyone help??
cheers in advance
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The lack of brakes business is, yeah - not physically enough room to fit a servo on the right hand side on a mk2, that's why your mk3 will have a recess in the bulkhead and a little servo crammed in there as a bit of an afterthoughtTahrey1043 wrote:its a right hand drive thing?
The engine dying business I have also experienced, for me it turned out to be massive overfuelling so it was a case of carburettor tuning.. however you don't have a carb and your tuning is done electronically, so I don't know what to suggest
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probably a lambda / temp sensor type cockup then...?
or ISV, ignition, cut-off rev sensor or whatever.
shoves far too much fuel through whilst it should instead be on over-run or running very lean, spark too weak to ignite it for some reason (problem that i had with the astra in the storms earlier this week - leads got wet and there was field breakdown below ~3500rpm / 30hz whereupon i assume some kind of voodoo happened*), idle stabiliser being sticky and not opening enough and/or in time as revs fall, overrun fuel cut-off continuing into too low a rev range (most cars ive cared to notice it on, Spi ones anyway (never checked on the mpi's!), it's only active over about 1500-1800rpm, guess the extra fuel used is minimal vs the risk of the returned supply not getting to the cylinders in time)
etc
the LHD mk2s had servo braking then?
lol at the no power brakes, no power steering thing... it really dies that quickly? unless you're under about 15mph you should be able to find a gear where you can safely lift the clutch (even if for a second) to get it running again, but i'm surprised if in that speed range it's a serious problem. There should be enough pressure left from the servo for a couple good pumps of the pedal (certainly sufficient to bring you to a very quick halt from that speed) and how heavy does the steering really get?
--- i cant really comment on the steering so thats a serious question. The skoda i test drove became quite chronic almost immediately when the engine cut, but still controllable with a little grunt... the astra, when i tested it by killing the engine in neutral at various speeds up to ~40, took a couple seconds before ending up no heavier than a non-PAS model.. heavier, certainly, but not anything to write home about until you were below walking pace.
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or ISV, ignition, cut-off rev sensor or whatever.
shoves far too much fuel through whilst it should instead be on over-run or running very lean, spark too weak to ignite it for some reason (problem that i had with the astra in the storms earlier this week - leads got wet and there was field breakdown below ~3500rpm / 30hz whereupon i assume some kind of voodoo happened*), idle stabiliser being sticky and not opening enough and/or in time as revs fall, overrun fuel cut-off continuing into too low a rev range (most cars ive cared to notice it on, Spi ones anyway (never checked on the mpi's!), it's only active over about 1500-1800rpm, guess the extra fuel used is minimal vs the risk of the returned supply not getting to the cylinders in time)
etc
the LHD mk2s had servo braking then?
--- i cant really comment on the steering so thats a serious question. The skoda i test drove became quite chronic almost immediately when the engine cut, but still controllable with a little grunt... the astra, when i tested it by killing the engine in neutral at various speeds up to ~40, took a couple seconds before ending up no heavier than a non-PAS model.. heavier, certainly, but not anything to write home about until you were below walking pace.
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fix the problem
if there are two allen keys on the distributor, if you loosen them and twist it one way when the engine is just ticking over and one way retards the timing and the engine revs will drop---- and the other way is to advance the timing and the engine revs will increase.
hope this will help.
cheers,
Dave
hope this will help.
cheers,
Dave
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Yep, bloody mainland europeans had all the luck..Tahrey1043 wrote: (snip)
the LHD mk2s had servo braking then?
(snip)
There should be enough pressure left from the servo for a couple good pumps of the pedal (certainly sufficient to bring you to a very quick halt from that speed) and how heavy does the steering really get?
The servo pressure thing: yes, if you're very quick.. however, I tried this particular trick today in my mum's mitsubishi shogun, and discovered it's not something you want to do on a regular basis. Thought I'd see what driving a mk1 landy must have been like so cut the engine at about 35, tried the brakes, thought 'ah, this is alright, still got enough pow*woah* s**t the pedal just went solid!' Obviously the effect will be lessened in a polo as it's so much lighter, but unless you're planning on an instant emergency stop, which is not going to be wonderfully safe, it's very easy to be lulled into a false sense of security by the first couple of pumps.
Ditto the steering really, I can't imagine it'd be too bad if you're used to not having power steering, but if you're half way round a corner steering barely holding the wheel as it's all to easy to get into the habit of with power steering, suddenly reverting to manual steering is going to be a bit dangerous as the wheel suddenly leaps out of your hands and tries to drag you into the bushes..