VW's new model lineup

dxg · Post by **dxg** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:02 am

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/75832

^^^
some rather dodgy photoshops in there, but afaik mostly accurate.

Deek.

Speedlaw · Post by **Speedlaw** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:10 am

Interesting stuff, AM&S is usually pretty accurate. Seen this:

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Set to be introduced in March. That PS keeps coming up, starting to think it's accurate by now. Holy Big Grill Batman!

Steve_O · Post by **Steve_O** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:13 am

Don't like the new VW styling AT ALL!!!

Would be fun to see this on the road tho...

Like I say tho - the cars look good - but they just don't look VW!!

mk2keel · Post by **mk2keel** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:29 am

very space age batman cars.
Look at the new astra thats the same (ok on a slightly smaller scale)

carmadaaron · Post by **carmadaaron** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:26 pm

Steve_O wrote:Don't like the new VW styling AT ALL!!!

Would be fun to see this on the road tho...

Like I say tho - the cars look good - but they just don't look VW!!

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wil be wiked if this is on the road!

Si_GTi · Post by **Si_GTi** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:42 pm

"big grille" looks to be the new company 'look' then - not bad

Geneva show isn't far away now - can't wait to see the pics of the new Polo, and then go see it in the metal when it arrives at dealers over here

SiDaBa · Post by **SiDaBa** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:34 pm

Has a very BMW look to it

Babe RuthLess · Post by **Babe RuthLess** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:46 am

My biggest grievance with VW's and Audi's new designs is that they've become fussy and lost their simplicity and purity.

The 1996 Passat, followed in 2001(?) by the mk.II Audi A4, are the best examples of what I mean: pure, 'industrial'-looking designs, elegant in their simplicity and economy of fussy details.

Now Audi is adding a '30s-Auto Union-style grille (going all the way down) to the A4. VW (which began 'uglyfying' the Passat with the facelift) now proposes a new Passat full of creases and lines and chrome and stuff. Fuss fuss fuss.

I'm glad I bought my Polo before they started messing with the design!

Tahrey1043 · Post by **Tahrey1043** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:54 pm

well at least they're keeping the sharp-ish "corner" between the boot and roofline (harking to the mk2 breadvan

) ..... otherwise...... is that front end / most of the body a Stilo, a Corsa, or a Rover Streetwise?

Dont wanna start yet another Tch-State-Of-Modern-Car-Design-Its-Shocking type discussion along the lines of you can't tell one from t'other any more (points at Riley Elf, Woseley Hornet, Morris Clubman 850* ahem) but....... hey......... dude, wheres my cars identity

*makes it all square again* HA!
*dies of fuel bill poverty and then from DOH moment parking it next to a Scion Xb*

* if you didnt know, they were all licensed reproductions of the original Austin / BMC / Leyland Mini

with very minor tweaks that didnt do much for the individuality - a narrower grille, a slightly larger/more protruding boot etc. Still looks like, well... a mini

dxg · Post by **dxg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:01 am

Just wait until you see the new Corsa and the new Fiat Punto. That's platform sharing brought to a horrible train wreck of a conclusion (I may even dig out images to prove my point).

If nothing else, at least VW is still standing out there with its own identity. It keeps the common components into the mechanicals and interior. How it should be done if we're accepting it as the reality of mass production, imho.

Deek.

dxg · Post by **dxg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:04 am

OK - this is the Punto (or is it the Corsa):

and this is the Corsa (or is it the Punto):

It's like a spot the difference competition. VW is at least orignal.

Deek.

dxg · Post by **dxg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:13 am

Anyhow, bringing the discussion back to chops of forthcoming VW revisions, there's another gallery here:

http://www.autokampioen.nl/published/ak ... en.nl.html

which includes Touran, Phaeton and a couple of surprises!! I've not seen them before, but would consider them "highly speculative"!

Deek.

Tahrey1043 · Post by **Tahrey1043** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:31 am

i thought GM had pulled out of the Fiat collaboration thing now?

dxg · Post by **dxg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:58 am

GM pulled out of their committment to buy Fiat's automotive divsion (and had to compensate them for doing so). But this car would have been in the pipeline long before that next (which was just a couple of weeks ago, I think).

An interesting take on the story is here:
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=8142

Deek