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Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:28 pm
by Mart!n-GTI-DK
aaronon wrote:Well now I'm completely stumped as your number shows no results on google lol :( Why don't they just stick all the part names on their website with a picture haha
The RH1-T is not part of the part number...

so it's just : 6R0941531H

Plenty of hits on that. :)

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:41 pm
by aaronon
Ah. I thought the last digits indicated the different finishes for the part. Such as plain, chrome brushed, or some other one.

Thanks

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:28 pm
by vwpolo16v
aaronon wrote:Well now I'm completely stumped as your number shows no results on google lol :( Why don't they just stick all the part names on their website with a picture haha
Tell me me about it :roll:

Check this link out and you can count at least 24 switches !
(let google translate Russian to English):

http://vagcats.info/base/vw/3/2211/672/9/14895

It's a very useful online parts-site in russian (though a year old) but lot more upto date than the vagcat.com (which only goes upto 2005 models !)

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:34 pm
by Mart!n-GTI-DK
aaronon wrote:Ah. I thought the last digits indicated the different finishes for the part. Such as plain, chrome brushed, or some other one.

Thanks
The APV in your part numbers does indicate Black/Chrome. But they are all Black/Chrome so I guess they didn't bother write it on the switch it self. :)

But I think the R1H-T is some other code after the part number.

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:08 pm
by aaronon
The link that you gave in the second post to eBay. .there are ones for £17.99 that are the same. . .I think the official VW one is £56 or so so I'll probably get that one. But now we've so many part numbers that all seem to disagree with each other :S

Does anyone know what the bit in bold means :S How are you mean to know if you should be J or G (whether or not to get that dipped beam as DRL) Well confusing :shock: :shock:

EDIT: Found this all translated.::


6R0 941 531 B APW day driving light, side lights and headlights and rear fog light PR-QJ0

6R0 941 531 C APW day driving light, side lights and headlights and fog lights PR-QJ0

6R0 941 531 D APW side lights driving lights and headlights and rear fog light PR-QJ0;9I0

6R0 941 531 E APW day driving light, side lights and headlights and fog lights PR-QJ0;9I0

6R0 941 531 F APV day driving light, side lights and headlights and rear fog light PR-QJ1

6R0 941 531 G APV day driving light, side lights and headlights and fog lights PR-QJ1

6R0 941 531 H APV day driving light, side lights and headlights and rear fog light PR-QJ1;9I0

6R0 941 531 J APV day driving light, side lights and headlights and fog lights PR-QJ1;9I0

PR-QJ0 = Without Chrome Package
PR-QJ1 = Chrome Package
PR-9I0 = "Dipped beam headlight as DRL" ( i.e. instead of a separate DRL - NOT AUTO )
Colour code APW = "Black"; APV - "Black"

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:35 pm
by aaronon
vwpolo16v wrote:I had popped my switch out the other day and part number is

6R0 941 531 H R1H-T

(Only rear fogs)

This was the label on it:

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Judging from the post I made above. . .is it true for me to guess that your light switch doesn't automatically always have lights on? You have to manually switch on your dipped beam as daytime lights?

Whereas my lights turn on the second I turn on the engine. . .even if my light switch is set to off?

If yours doesn't do what mine does. . .then I THINK I understand the parts lol. (i'd need the G as my daylights come on auto then)

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:08 pm
by vwpolo16v
aaronon wrote: 6R0 941 531 J APV day driving light, side lights and headlights and fog lights PR-QJ1;9I0
I guess that's the one we need ?

To be honest, it will be different yet again when you talk to your local VW dealer.
I might just get that one from ebay.

BUT...we still need to know where to wire the fog harness to...
The key is finding the mounting points D106 & D107 (according to workshop manual but it does not state where they are.

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:26 pm
by aaronon
Yeah but that part assumes we are "PR-9I0 = "Dipped beam headlight as DRL" ( i.e. instead of a separate DRL - NOT AUTO )"

I'm not sure whether I am J or G.

You're clearly J because you've looked at your current part. But I'm still stomped as I have no idea what that above DRL nonsense is!

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:02 pm
by blazeguarder
I wouldn't think too much about all these part numbers. You want one with the APV at the end - that refers to the chrome bit. The parts list section on here might be of some use. It's apparently the same system as on the Mk IV Golf and the Polo 9N3. The R32 guys have been swapping them for a while and it seems to all work fine...

I've been meaning to do this on my 9N3 for a while. Completely forgot about it. This thread is a good reminder!

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:28 pm
by aaronon
Yeah think ill go ahead with the ones one on that site (G I think). My only fear is that the one I get doesn't automatically enable the day lights when I turn on the ignition.

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:50 pm
by vwpolo16v
aaronon wrote: Judging from the post I made above. . .is it true for me to guess that your light switch doesn't automatically always have lights on? You have to manually switch on your dipped beam as daytime lights?

Whereas my lights turn on the second I turn on the engine. . .even if my light switch is set to off?

If yours doesn't do what mine does. . .then I THINK I understand the parts lol. (i'd need the G as my daylights come on auto then)
My lights/switch behaviours are as exactly like yours.
That is, with the switch in position "O" (i.e. off), the dipped beam comes on as soon as I start the car.
Otherwise known as DRL's.

That's stated in your parts list for the "H" series (which is what I have):
aaronon wrote: 6R0 941 531 H APV day driving light, side lights and headlights and rear fog light PR-QJ1;9I0
I have "H" and APV signifies Black with Chrome handle.

As blazeguarder states, switches should not be a problem as the wiring from the switch to the BCM is there (for my car anyway).
It's the wiring from the BCM to fogs is the problem.......and that's what needs to be cracked.

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:32 pm
by aaronon
Yeah but I don't understand why I'd be J and not G or vice versa... What could go wrong ? There's clearly a difference or ther wouldn't be two parts surely.

As for wiring... It's the old light switch not just a straight swap and then the £35 thingymabob goes from the fogs to the switch?

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:33 pm
by vwpolo16v
Not sure what the differences are between G & J versions and not really sure what to suggest.

Regarding the wiring, I found the appropriate diagram:

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Basically, need to:

1. Add a wire from Light Switch terminal block Pin 8 to Fuse block B Pin 54a (to Fuse SB54).
2. Add a wire from the other end of Fuse SB54 to the connection point C21 (I guess this is somewhere on the bulkhead firewall).
3. Add the pre-made fogs wiring harness from C21 to the fogs lights (and the brown Earth wire to a common Earth point 124).
4. Add the 15A fuse to SB54
5. Swap the lights switch.
6. Code the BCM and let it know that fogs have been added.

I checked my switch connector block and Pin 8 does NOT have a wire on it and there's no fuse in SB54, thus they will need to be wired :(

So the key is finding out how to get the wire out from the Fuse block and into the engine compartment.

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:40 pm
by aaronon
What would happen with you didnt code the BCM... Would the lights just not come on?

I might just take it to a sparky and pay him.. He'll have all the bits and bobs I guess :(

Re: foglights wiring

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:33 pm
by vwpolo16v
aaronon wrote:What would happen with you didnt code the BCM... Would the lights just not come on?
Looking at the wiring, they should work without coding.
What might not work is the dash fog light without coding.