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Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:27 am
by piglet14
Good morning nice Polo people.
We have a 1999 1.0 Arosa, which I am led to believe is essentially a 6N or 6N1??? not sure which.

I bought a manual clutch cable for a Mk2 Polo but it has a loop type pedal connection, ours is a nipple, it was also a bit shorter, though the original cable looks longer than it needs to be.

Has anyone done this? can anyone point me at the correct cable?

Thanks in advance
Tim

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:40 am
by alexperkins
Its effectively a lupo, which is based on the 6N2 platform

What kind of clutch cable does it have at present? Normally they are auto adjusting to take up the slack as the cable wears with age

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:49 am
by piglet14
Thanks Alex,
A Mk5 then, I will repost the thread in the right section.

Yes they are auto adjust which is what I am trying to change.
I suspect the clutch is on it's last legs but without having control of the adjustment it's hard to tell.
Cable is creaky so needs renewing anyway.
Pedal box looks fine, pedal seems heavy for a 1.0 but I've never driven one before so wouldn't know.

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:24 am
by alexperkins
Ill move the topic for you

I would say your clutch is on its way out. Release bearing sleeve is probably worn making the release arm stiff to operate

I wouldnt go changing the cable for a non auto-adjusting cable.

In fact, im not even sure these are autoadjusting come to think of it. The big clip in part is just to stabilise the cable and hold i to the firewall

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:44 pm
by piglet14
Opinion seems divided, my local fators say the Firstline cable is auto but Pagid(ECP) online help say their 646440318 is definitely manual.
I'll order a Pagid and report back.

Does the release sleeve come with the release bearing?

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:34 pm
by alexperkins
No, the sleeve needs to be bought seperately

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:01 pm
by piglet14
Think you were right about the cables Alex, both the original and the ECP cables are manual adjust, as you said the plastic case in the middle is just for the bulkhead mount.
New cable in and clutch still awful so I'll get the parts ordered next week for a half term clutch swap.

What else will I need on a 50K 1.0, drive shaft seals? gearbox mount?

Who makes the OEM clutches? or whose are worth fitting if you only want to do it once.

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:21 pm
by piglet14
Is this the sleeve:
085141181 / 193VG0200 seems universal across most models, cheap enough why not include it in the kit?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clutch-Releas ... 461cb852e2
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/193vg0200
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/311vg0040

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:16 pm
by alexperkins
Yup that's it

It's annoying they don't as they always wear down

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:37 am
by piglet14
Which of the following should I replace as a matter of course and which are better left alone:
Gearbox/engine mounts
Gearbox seal
D/S seals

Thanks

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:40 am
by alexperkins
Engine mounts wear over time, but only replace when failed

Gearbox shifter seal often leaks so worth replacing

Driveshaft seals seldom need replacing

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:02 pm
by piglet14
3 piece suites:

Borg&Beck HK6486 £54
SACHS 3000158001 £72
LUK 620134700 £74
Valeo 006742 £89

Who are the OEM supplier(s)?
Are the Borg&Beck kits OK?

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:06 pm
by alexperkins
Sachs LUK or valeo

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:32 pm
by piglet14
Thanks for all your help Alex
SKS have got the Sachs for £63 all in, I'll order it in the morning.
Got the release slide & shift rod seal coming from GSF for £9 total.

What's the best gearbox oil for these? I normally buy synthetic.

Cheers
Tim

Re: Newbie, maunual clutch cable conversion-Arosa

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:40 pm
by alexperkins
No worries

75W90 castrol syntrans