Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

[salas]

Hi everybody;
I installed OPS 8K Park pilot on my Polo 6c (2015); I followed the next diagram:

and theses:

Coding with VCDS:
- I registered the module in the installation list of Can Gateway module [19 CAN Gateway].
- I coded the module [10-Assistance stationnt] (code delivered by the seller on AliExpress).
- turning the next [5F infotainment] configuration to "Active" :
ENG122227-ENG117496-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc,activée
ENG122227-ENG117498-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_over_threshold_high,activée
ENG122228-ENG117685-Car_Function_List_CAN_Gen2-PDC_audio_lowering,Disponible
ENG122228-ENG117686-Car_Function_List_CAN_Gen2-PDC_audio_lowering_msg_bus,Bus de données trains roulant
ENG122229-ENG117710-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A,activée
ENG122229-ENG117711-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A_msg_bus,Etat immo-Esclaves / Borne 15


But modules: [17-Instruments] and [44-Direction assistée] NOT TOUCHED; and before installation there was not any error!

and finally; only front sensors work; there is a problem in rear sensors but I can't locate it.

aslo; after installation by full scan; there were several fault codes; in modules: [10-Assistance stationnt] and [17-Instruments] and [44-Direction assistée].
Can you discuss with me the possible diagnoses please?


full scan is attached:


















Dimanche,24,Mars,2019,18:35:59:50725
VCDS -- Logiciel d'émulation de VAG/VAS sous Windows(R) sous Windows 10 x86
Version VCDS: FRM 17.1.3.0
Version données: 20170223 DS267.4
www.vcds.fr


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY164734 Plaque d'immat.:
Kilometrage: 77808km Ordre réparation:: Polo 1.6 MPI



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Type chassis: 6R (6C0)
Scanner: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY164734 Kilometrage: 77808km

01-Moteur -- Etat: OK 0000
03-Freins ABS -- Etat: OK 0000
08-Climatronic -- Etat: OK 0000
09-Centrale Elec. -- Etat: OK 0000
10-Assistance stationnt -- Etat: Défaut 0010
15-Airbags -- Etat: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Etat: Défaut 0010
19-Gateway CAN -- Etat: OK 0000
44-Direction assistée -- Etat: Défaut 0010
5F-Electr. d'informat. -- Etat: OK 0000

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Adresse 01: Moteur (J623-CWVB) Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
No. pièce Log: 04E 906 057 AQ Mat: 04C 907 309 J
Pièce: 1.6l R4 MPI H23 8117
Révision: 31H23000
Codage: 01110012020408000000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_ECM16MPI01104E906057AQ 001003
ROD: EV_ECM16MPI01104E906057AQ.rod
VCID: 76E269D7C90118F1C3-8022

Aucun code défaut trouvé.
Tests passés: 1110 0001

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Adresse 03: Freins ABS (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C0 907 379 G Mat: 6R0 907 379 BA
Pièce: ESP9.0i H03 0003
No. de série: 08508958140905
Codage: 21DD2885492933C4091B006C0055841492CC90000005C9098000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100018
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
VCID: 336490C39AF34DD924-8066

Aucun code défaut trouvé.

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Adresse 08: Climatronic (J301) Labels: 6C0-820-045.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C0 820 045 Mat: 6C0 820 045
Pièce: AC Manuell H02 0105
No. de série: 1409201B-0587
Codage: 200000010000100000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
VCID: 5CB61B7F57EDA2A1D5-8008

Aucun code défaut trouvé.

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Adresse 09: Centrale Elec. (J519) Labels: Echec redir!
No. pièce Log: 6C0 937 087 A Mat: 6C0 937 087
Pièce: BCM PQ26 Me4R H06 0047
No. de série: 009448004296
Codage: 00000840401300534B844000410703000000590051010000000000000000
No. Atelier: WSC 12345 123 12345
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_BCMA0 004003
ROD: EV_BCMA0_004_VW26.rod
VCID: 2C568BBF47CD122165-8078

Appareil de commande de porte: côté conducteur:
Sous-système 1 - No. pièce Log: 6R0 959 801 AT Mat: 6R0 959 801 AT Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Pièce: J386__TSG_FT 003 8612
No. de série: KU0KU023091442667960
Codage: 0000A0

Appareil de commande de porte: côté passager AV:
Sous-système 2 - No. pièce Log: 6R0 959 802 BE Mat: 6R0 959 802 BE Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Pièce: J387__TSG_BT 003 8612
No. de série: KU0KU026091442693991
Codage: 1000A0

Aucun code défaut trouvé.

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Adresse 10: Assistance stationnt (J446) Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
No. pièce Log: 5QD 919 294 G Mat: 5QA 919 294
Pièce: PDC 8 KanalH07 0044
No. de série: 000308418218305
Codage: 0431051001
No. Atelier: WSC 12345 123 12345
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009035
ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW26.rod
VCID: 53A4F0433A336DD904-8006

3 Codes défaut trouvés:
1080338 - Haut-parleur d'aide au stationnement
B107C 12 [009] - c.c. au pôle +
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 3
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 179
Kilometrage: 77808 km
Date: 2019.03.13
Temps: 00:15:17

12658704 - Bus de données
U1121 00 [009] - message manquant
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 179
Kilometrage: 77808 km
Date: 2019.03.13
Temps: 00:15:17

12656926 - ROD - Code défaut inconnu
- 00 [009]
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 179
Kilometrage: 77808 km
Date: 2019.03.13
Temps: 00:15:18


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Adresse 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 6C0-959-655.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C0 959 655 Mat: 6C0 959 655
Pièce: VW20Airbag013 001 0330
Révision: -------- No. de série: 003LL000CDTD
Codage: 8800C00000000000000000CA000800000000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
VCID: 70EE5FCFAB6536C119-8024

Aucun code défaut trouvé.

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Adresse 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C0 920 730 B Mat: 6C0 920 730 B
Pièce: KOMBI 110 0290
Codage: 0325090020000008010008000000000000000000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 204E6F8F3B05C641C9-8074

1 Code défaut trouvé:
13636608 - Calculateur mal codé
U1014 00 [009] - -
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 2
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 179
Kilometrage: 77808 km
Date: 2019.03.13
Temps: 00:12:48


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Adresse 19: Gateway CAN (J533) Labels: 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C0 909 901 Mat: 6C0 937 087
Pièce: GW MQB A0 H06 0047
Révision: -------- No. de série: 009448004296
Codage: 01000008200A640079000000000000000001000000000000000000000000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_GatewA0Lear 001001
ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_VW26.rod
VCID: 65C03E9B64A7E3697A-8030

Aucun code défaut trouvé.

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Adresse 44: Direction assistée (J792) Labels: 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C1 909 144 M Mat: 6C1 909 144 D
Pièce: EPS_TRW_ALow 312 3211
No. de série: PEA90285
Codage: 0007
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
VCID: 326A95C765E944D12F-8066

1 Code défaut trouvé:
1062912 - Calculateur mal codé
U1014 00 [009] - -
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 179
Kilometrage: 77808 km
Date: 2019.03.13
Temps: 00:07:43


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Adresse 5F: Electr. d'informat. (J794) Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
No. pièce Log: 6C0 035 867 B Mat: 6C0 035 867 B
Pièce: MU-E--ER 820 6220
No. de série: 22071400011117
Codage: 02620000BE0000004011000100102000000000040000010000
No. Atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001017
ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
VCID: 285E77AF53353E0181-807C

Aucun code défaut trouvé.

Fin-------------------------(Temps écoulé: 02:23)--------------------------

[salas]

NB: rear buzzer wiring is corect (following diagram). I tried to replace it with front buzzer; but the same problem!!

[RUM4MO]

Well both codes claim to be due to "incorrect coding U101400 [009] - " - so, did you alter this car's controllers code to include this OPS retro fit?

Edit:- as the OPS for front and rear are showing in the display, something must have been done I'd think, but was it recoded correctly?

[salas]

@RUM4MO
About coding with VCDS; I've done it as follows:
- I registered the module in the installation list of the Gateway module [19 CAN Gateway].
- I coded the module [10-Assistance stationnt] (code delivered by the seller on AliExpress).
- configuration of [5F infotainment] module to "Active" :
Liste des fonctions du véhicule BAP-parking_assist_0x0A
Menu Véhicule operation-menu_display_pdc
Menu véhicule Operation-menu_display_pdc_over_threshold_high

But modules: [17-Instruments] and [44-Direction assistée] NOT TOUCHED.

[massimo23]

I have 8K OPS on my Polo 6c.
These are Settings in 5F Infotainment:
Adaptations:
In Car-Function_Adaptations_Gen2 i have:
menu_display_pdc: activated
menu_display_pdc_clamp_15_off: Not activated
menu_display_pdc_over_threshold_high: activated
menu_display_pdc_standstill: Not activated
menu_display_pdc_after_disclaimer: Not activated

In Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2:
Parking_assist_0x0A is activated
Parking_assist_0x0A_msg_bus is Terminal 15

In Car_Function_List_CAN_Gen2:
PDC_audio_lowering: available
PDC_audio_lowering_msg_bus: Suspension data bus

In Vehicle_configuration:
OPS_display_in_dash_board_display_unit: Off
Pilot_Parking: Not activated

In 19 Gateway:
Adaptations:
Installation list, specified installations:
Parking Assistance: coded

In 09 Central Electric:
Long Code: Byte 15 bit 6 enabled (Parking Aid Deactivation Button Installed)

My Parking Assistance unit is on 76 so different than yours.
here is the coding and adaptions:

Control unit: 76 Parking Assistance
System description: PARKHILFE 8K
Software number: 5Q0919294K Software version: 0054
Hardware number: 5Q0919294A Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 39331616502046
ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000
ODX version: 002026

Long coding: 0031151001

Transmission: Man.trans.
Distance regulation: Not activated
Trailer: without trailer hitch
Mute: activated
Directional stabilization assist. w. power steering assistance: not installed
Visual display for park assist: OPS display
Camera type: Rearview camera
Limited operation: available
Vehicle path display: with vehicle path display
Wheels sensors with detection of direction of rotation: not installed
Coding information: coded
Hybrid/electric drive: not installed
Parking assistant: not installed

Adaptations:
Speaker volume for rear park assist: Stage 2
Speaker frequency for rear park assist: Stage 1
Speaker volume for front park assist: Stage 2
Speaker frequency for front park assist: Stage 2
Audio reduction request: On
Park assist activation tone: On
Switch-off speed for parking assist: 15 km/h
Production mode: Deactivating
Deactivate production mode: Deactivating

[massimo23]

I see a couple of things that seem different from mine:
1: PDC_audio_lowering_msg_bus: Bus de données trains roulant
mine is Suspension data bus.

2: the long coding in 09 unit byte 15
Yours is 00 while mine is C8
Bit 3 is start/stop deactivation button
Bit 6 enabled (Parking Aid Deactivation Button Installed)
Bit 7 is Horn signal via Lin
So you would need to enable bit 6. So byte 15 becomes 40

I have rearview camera installed so my coding in the parking assistant unit is different on byte 02 mine is 15 yours is 10
I looked at 12 other park assist from different polos and byte 00 of the long code park assist (10) is 00 and not 04.

[salas]

I checked what you mentioned massimo23, and I found this:

1- I didn't found this adaptations in [5F] unit: (In Vehicle_configuration)
OPS_display_in_dash_board_display_unit: Off
Pilot_Parking: Not activated.

2- PDC_audio_lowering_msg_bus, I didn't found suspension data bus, but I found this: (wish one should I choose?) "french language"

3- long coding in [09] unit byte 15: I changed it to 40.

4- long coding in control unit parking assist [76] in ODIS, or [10] in VCDS:
AliExpress seller gave me the codage "0431151001", once I put it, I could not change it to "0031151001". I tried that several times but it was rejected!

I hope we are on the good way, thank you very much massimo23 for your assistance..

[massimo23]

ok so looking at your menu in French the option Bus de données trains roulant is same as Suspension data bus.

Also have you tried entering the security code for the parking unit 10 and then try the coding?
the access code should be 71679.
Also clear all your errors and see if anything changes

[salas]

1- Yes I will try secured access to [10]unit.
2- How about (Vehicle_configuration) adaptations in [5F] unit:
OPS_display_in_dash_board_display_unit: Off
Pilot_Parking: Not activated.

Its not found in my adaptations, can it be due to a lack of long coding in [5F] unit?
And subsequently, the error of [17] unit: "calculateur mal codé" means: badly coded calculator.
Is not it?

[massimo23]

As you see my park pilot visualizes the wheel path and i dont see it on yours... you have it coded in you parking unit (10)
About the vehicle configuration i couldnt configure pilot_parking while activating Ops_display gave me fault on dashboard.

Also here is coding/adaptions for steering assistance:
Control unit: 44 Steering Assistance
System description: EPS_TRW_ALow

Software number: 6C2909144AG Software version: 3232
Hardware number: 6C2909144D Hardware version: 323
Serial number: CG661488
ODX name: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW
ODX version: 016026
Long coding: 000700
Activation of start-stop function: not active
Steering angle sensor: internal
All Wheel Drive (AWD): not installed
Active reset: active
ABS/ESP: installed
Warning light and display: Red warning lamp

Adaptations:
Download without rest bus: -- Suspension data bus: not active
XCP calibration protocol: active
Activating and deactivating all development messages: -- Development messages: not active
Activation of pwr steering asst without engine running: not active
Software end stop: active
Straight line running: active
Support power: 100%
Characteristic curve of steering assistance: Driving profile selection button
Driving profile switchover: Incremental, controlled over time
Engine type: -- motor_tune_selector: small type 1

[salas]

Hi massimo23:
about my coding/adaptions for steering assistance:
- long coding is: 0007
- adapataion "Characteristic curve of steering assistance: Driving profile selection button" is unknown (photo)

and the rest of adaptions is:
SW:6C1-909-144-M HW:6C1-909-144-D --- Direction assistée
Pièce:EPS_TRW_ALow 312 3211, Codage:0007
EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW,011021,EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
Mardi,26,Mars,2019,12:52:32:50725
Version VCDS: FRM 17.1.3 Version données: 20170223 DS267.4
VCID: 326A95C765E944D12F-8066

IDE00820-Activation/désactivation tous les mess. de développement,pas actif(ve)
IDE03724-Conduite en ligne droite,activé
IDE03734-Puissance d'assistance,100%
IDE04555-activer l'assistance de direction moteur arrêté,pas actif(ve)
IDE05162-Fin de course logicielle,activé
IDE06419-Commutation profil de conduite,progressivement: commandé par le temps
IDE07540-Téléchargement sans Restbus,pas actif(ve)
MAS02080-Protocole de calibrage XCP,pas actif(ve)

[salas]

I tried to change [10] park assist unit coding to: 0011151001 (byte 01/ bit of Vehicle path display: with vehicle path display is disabled)
at this time; codage is accepted then I deleted all error codes; but I was surprised by the inactivation of all the park assist system (even front sensors are absent) and no thing happen by triggering the reverse; and switch button is not functional. I do not really know what to do??!

[massimo23]

Try this coding 0411051001 .. the coding for this unit is slightly different than the oem version in the polos at least the byte 00.

[massimo23]

Also have you coded the pdc in the engine module: Byte 03 Bit 04 to enabled?

[Lktuning]

My Polo 6C 2015 Highline

Factory coding front and back sensors

5Q0 919 294 E -> Coding: 0011051001